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I have a problem.
Posted: 2002-11-13 11:06am
by Yogi
I was chatting with a person on AIM about reality (hard-core Christian who doesn't beleive in reality), and I decided to use the anti-sophistry argument. In essence, I told her that if she wanted to demonstrate that realiy was subjective, just jump off a tall building. She shouldn't be harmed by it.
Now she says she's actually going to do it.
Any idead on how to convince her to stop?
Posted: 2002-11-13 11:10am
by ArthurDent
Why stop her? She's a "fundie," right?
Posted: 2002-11-13 11:11am
by aerius
Why would you want her to stop? I mean if she jumps off a building and dies, that's once less rabid religious fundie to deal with at the very least since it also keeps her from having any fundie kids.
Posted: 2002-11-13 11:13am
by Faram
Ask her where she's gona jump, bring a camcoder.
Sell the movie on the net and earn loads of $$$
Posted: 2002-11-13 11:13am
by EmperorMing
Posted: 2002-11-13 11:16am
by Knife
Sit back and think for a moment. Is she serious? If she is your friend, does she have a history that would tell you that she could do this act? Or is she just getting a rise out of you?
If this is serious, call her loved ones, or even authorities to prevent her from hurting herself.
Posted: 2002-11-13 11:19am
by punkgothhippie
I'll buy the tape of that happening try and include an interview!!!
Posted: 2002-11-13 11:37am
by Mr Bean
Think hard... How much better off would the world be if they survived?
Re: I have a problem.
Posted: 2002-11-13 11:42am
by Kuja
Yogi wrote:I was chatting with a person on AIM about reality (hard-core Christian who doesn't beleive in reality), and I decided to use the anti-sophistry argument. In essence, I told her that if she wanted to demonstrate that realiy was subjective, just jump off a tall building. She shouldn't be harmed by it.
Now she says she's actually going to do it.
Any idead on how to convince her to stop?
Holy shit. If nothing else, that takes guts.
Posted: 2002-11-13 12:18pm
by Larz
... I'm at a loss of words... to prove non-reality she'd die... mindless zombies, the whole lot of them...
Re: I have a problem.
Posted: 2002-11-13 12:27pm
by Stormbringer
Yogi wrote:I was chatting with a person on AIM about reality (hard-core Christian who doesn't beleive in reality), and I decided to use the anti-sophistry argument. In essence, I told her that if she wanted to demonstrate that realiy was subjective, just jump off a tall building. She shouldn't be harmed by it.
Now she says she's actually going to do it.
Any idead on how to convince her to stop?
Why? I she's tht dumb why bother.
And more than likely it's just a bullshit lie anyway.
Posted: 2002-11-13 12:30pm
by Dirty Harry
I think the loaded pistol in mouth demonstration of weather reality is subjective or not would be alot more spectacular.
Posted: 2002-11-13 12:38pm
by Darth Wong
Three words: pay-per-view.
It would be worth seeing.
Posted: 2002-11-13 12:39pm
by Ted
I'd pay to see that, with a running commentary and everything, well, maybe a falling commentary.
Posted: 2002-11-13 12:41pm
by Ghost Rider
Or at the very least it could become one of those "And when fundies jump!!"
Seriously if the person is going to do it...you can try to stop her because you're a friend but honestly anyone that blind and dumb and willing to listen to such a asinine suggestion honestly...let them do it, I mean it is of their relative free will.
Posted: 2002-11-13 01:38pm
by Yogi
It's not really a friend, but someone from Creationweb.org
I actually think there's a verse in the Bible which tells you not to do this. I may decide to use that next time she comes online.
Posted: 2002-11-13 02:45pm
by Falkenhorst
Dude, you could potentially make some money here.
Email STILE at stileproject about it, I bet he'd help you turn it into a moneymaking racket, EHHEEHHEHEHE
Posted: 2002-11-13 03:14pm
by Sea Skimmer
Reasoning with anyone that stupid is a lost cause. She'd likely claim you know she'll live and you don't want her to prove you wrong.
Got a digital video camera?
Posted: 2002-11-13 03:18pm
by haas mark
I am surprised at many of your for your comments. Frankly, it disgust me, because she is a human.
Personally, I can't really say how to convince her to stop. All I can say is Good Luck.
Posted: 2002-11-13 04:23pm
by data_link
This person is a lost cause. Videotape the jump and then the next time you get in an argument with a similar idiot, show them what happened to the last person who tried to deny objective reality.
Posted: 2002-11-13 04:27pm
by haas mark
Okay, what I am sick of is people telling Yogi to videotape it. That's just sick. Why the fuck would you want to videotape it? Think for a minute. Sure, it may be a lost cause, bu tno reason to videotape it....
Posted: 2002-11-13 04:57pm
by aerius
Yogi wrote:It's not really a friend, but someone from Creationweb.org
Even more reason not to stop the dumb bitch from jumping.
*sets up an IMAX camera near building*
Posted: 2002-11-13 05:01pm
by Shinova
I know fundies are stupid, but some of you guys are just going too far. I agree with verilon. What you guys are suggesting makes you no better than sadistic criminals.
Posted: 2002-11-13 05:05pm
by Mr Bean
Excuse me fokes but have you ever though that this is not the first idiot to go out in this way? Video Taping it and circulating it would do a woorld of good for some people.
Posted: 2002-11-13 05:07pm
by Kuja
verilon wrote:Okay, what I am sick of is people telling Yogi to videotape it. That's just sick. Why the fuck would you want to videotape it? Think for a minute. Sure, it may be a lost cause, bu tno reason to videotape it....
Circulate it and show people how terrible suicide really is. Maybe they'll back off.