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Have you ever been in a fight when you were in School/etc? How many did you win, or lose? What's your stance on getting into a fight? Any stories?

I'll tell some of my stories later, but I don't really like fighting. Although, it's one of those necessary evils in survival, and I've gotten into quite a few. Even whenever I beat someone up, I don't get any type of ego boost from it. While I don't like it, I do like the experience and the emotions. The strange thing is that whenever I get a punch to the head when I a fight it hurts a hell of a lot less when I'm not in a fight.

So what are some memories of some fight you been in??
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Seven fights, won five including two cases of two on one.
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THEHOOLIGANJEDI wrote:Have you ever been in a fight when you were in School/etc? How many did you win, or lose? What's your stance on getting into a fight? Any stories?
I've been in a few. Justified, I don't start them but I do finish them. I don't like getting in fights but I won't cower at the prospect either.
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Yes.

No ego boost except in the ninth grade when I went back and destroyed some people who thought it was funny to drag me through the dirt for more than 180 days(my fifth and sixth grade)...it may not have made me be on the higher moral ground but at the time I didn't really care.

Though one thing I have learned in fighting and learning how to fight, you realize how frail a human being truly is.
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No, but go into some on the way home a few times only a few punchs no one got hurt
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Hmm...
That's one on one fist fight when I was fifteen (I don't know the reason anymore, I believe it was a girl, but we were both actually dead drunk so there wouldn't have to be much of a reason to start a fight :P ).
It was a draw, (after several minutes our noses were bloody and we were tired) so we stopped and made peace afterwards.
Oh and another one were me and 4 of my friends beat up some other guys (we won, but we were thrown out of the bar afterwards).
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Hmm... Nine to date, Nearly got expeled over two of them before I proved It was in self defense


Hmm first was third Grade, Ended up with a split lip, He ended up with a broken arm(Fling him into a wall and he cracked it) it was 3, on 1 but the others just pushed me around


Second-Fifth where braws(4-10 kids, any higher than 10 and its a Riot :P) in Sixth and Seven Grade, nothing realy momentious about any of them, two started behind me, one was a fight I helped break up


Fight Six was in Seven Grade as well however it was 2 on 1, Broke two of his Toes(What idiot fights somone wearing boots in flip-flops?) Wap him in the chin then footstomped him after he hit me from behind


Seven, Two on One, Dislocated my hand, Broke his nose and the others shoulder(Shoulders are harder than they look)

Eight, Eigth Grade, Broke his arm +3 Fingers when I slamed him, I came out unhurt and they thought I had done it delbralty, Thank Bob for Security Cameras showing him charging me from behind right before school and me introducing him to Mr Pavement

Ninth was in 10th Grade I suffered Brusing and a mean black eye, They(They being two senior Football Players saying Hi to the newest member) Suffered a broken Foot, and three lost teeth between them


Hmm thats about it

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I've been in one. Usually I just stare at people and they take off.
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None in School. I'm a grade A smartass, but I apparently have a good personality and people knew it was all in good fun. I stopped fights on one or two occasions (put a guy into a hold until he cooled off).

I was attacked for no reason in a bar once, but I tripped the guy and kicked him in the kidneys until he stopped trying to get up. Not a fun occurrence.

I have gotten in too many fights with my brothers to count. During one grapple both of us tumbled down a flight of stairs, resulting in a broken ankle and several damaged ribs.
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The only one worth mentioning was when I was a lot younger. Two guys. I smacked one's head against a brick wall and he went down. The other I hit the pressure point in the neck and he was on his knees. Well, that was pretty much it, really fast.

Oh, and the reason a punch in a fight hurts less than out is that you usually have adrenaline pumping and you are concentrating on something other than feeling pain.
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neoolong wrote:
Oh, and the reason a punch in a fight hurts less than out is that you usually have adrenaline pumping and you are concentrating on something other than feeling pain.
Yeah I kinda figure that. Thanks for further confirmation.
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In second grade I beat up a few people my troublemaker days. Fourth Grade I got into two fairly big Fights in the middle of class. One in gym and the other duing art class. Both I consider ties, but most ppl think That I won the latter (to some degree I did). 6th grade I got into this really big fight which ppl I know to this day still talk about (and I'm 20 now). People always thought I was a pussy because I was skinny even though I was pretty damn tall, and have some pretty good skills with my fists. Well there was this kid who said a racial slur to me so I said one back so he challenged me to a fight after school(there more to it than that, btw). I blew him off and avoided him the rest of the day. The next day, in the morning, the guy bumped into me and told me that I didn't show up. I gave him a dirty look and walked away. But at lunch time I knew I couldn't avoid him 100%, so I decided to just hang with my friends and hope nothing would happen, but as I was walking toward my friends, I see the dude hanging with them. Now I don't know why I continued walking toward them (maybe I though being around my friends could cool the matter over somewhat). Well I continued walking and then He bumped right into me, then He pushed me, and I pushed back. Well to make a long story short it was a good fight, I really kicked his ass. I don't think i've evr hit someone that hard and in the face so many times. I know that I gave him a bloody nose (and it was bleeding) others said I also gave him two black eyes. I walked away from the fight with a little pain on the side of my face.

7th Grade I beat Up one kid in gym class (he was a pussy) so I didn't beat him up too bad, and it was stopped before any damage wan don't. I fought another pussy n the cafeteria and beat him up some, again the fight was over before I could really hurt him.

8th Grade Was my first and last time I got my ass kicked in math class (there was a sub). He gave me a bloody lip. But I could take a punch so it was all good. I got into anpther fight with this other kid, I knew i could have beat the shit out of him, but was distracted by my anger, and the fight was brief, but I got my hits in. The other kid punched like a bitch though.
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Gotten into 10 fights, but about half of them were group rumbles involving at least 10 people. Lost one fight when the losing guy's friends jumped in and it became a 5 on 1 stomping. I did manage to take out a couple of the fuckers before I got blindsided and stomped.

Fight 1. Junior school, about gr.3 I think. Got into a nice fistfight with the grade bully. After exchanging punches we backed off and then he charged me and I sidestepped and pushed him into the brick wall. Down and out he went, and no suspensions were handed out.

Fight 2. I somehow ended up being the outcast that everyone picked on for fun. After being slammed into the basketball pole from behind I lost it and stomped the guy in the knee, which put him on crutches for the rest of the year. Never got bugged again in school.

Fight 3. Fucking nutcase in highschool shop class decided to kill me with a hammer. I ended up with a few cuts and bruises on my arm and shoulder. He got a black eye and had his knee stomped out and dislocated. He didn't walk for the rest of the school year.

Fight 4. Lost this one. I'd tripped the fucker onto the ground and was about to stomp him when his buddies jumped in and made it a 5 on 1. Took out one guy with a good elbow and nutted another one before I was tackled and got kicked more times than I could count. Fuck that hurt, nothing got broken but I sure got some nice bruises.

Fight 5. Couple ghetto punks tried to kick my ass and rob me while I was waiting in a bus shelter. Got my glasses bent and one of my teeth chipped. Both of the pukes ended up unconscious on the ground, one had broken cheekbones and missing teeth, the other a broken nose and snapped ribs.

Fight 6. A few moments of inattention late at night coming home from a rock concert ended up with some guy holding a knife to my neck and demanding my wallet. I gave him my wallet, and as soon as he turned around I blindsided and stomped him to get my wallet back. He ended up quite unconscious, no idea how much damage I did.

The 4 rumbles took place in middle and highschool, and I have to admit they were damn good fun. Some people would fall down and get trampled, but no one ever got seriously hurt.
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I've gotten into several small scuffles. The highlight was once, back in who-knows-what grade, when I got kicked in the ass from behind (my ass is a target since I'm huge). I turned around to find out who it was...forgot what happened next, but I do know I hit him with my heavy bookbag after he hit me in the head twelve times. Of course, I was yelled at...

I also remember kicking some punk in the ass several times for being an asshole...

I've also shoved a kid across the floor. The little punk had been a pest for a long time; he was about a foot shorter than me, and way skinnier, so I leaned down and shouldered him as he ran across the school lobby. He slid for several feet before getting up and getting "in my face" which was kind of hard since he came up to my chest :)

There have been other fights, nothing really major though. I was a target in high school since I was shy, quiet and a fatass and the others were preadolescent alpha male wannabes :P

This changed in college. Nobody fucks with me now :) but that's probably because I get on well with practically everyone I know.
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well, i used to beat people up for no good reason when i was in one of my moods, but that's sort of differant from full-out fights...


counting full-out fights, i had a pretty good number, at least 7 or 8 that i can remember, and i only lost 2.

first one, teacher pissed me off so i attacked, i won that one, not much damage to either side.

had a couple of typical fistfights, won one of them due to my grabbing the offender's arm and removing part of it. the other one i "won" only because the other guy couldn't continue to fight after having his face turned into spaghetti when i raked him with a fist with tumbtacks between the fingers.

one fight in the office, stupid highschool moron (10th grader i beleive, i was in 7th at the time) called me a fag, so i got up and pounded the all holy hell out of him, one shot to the jaw sent him into the secretary's desk knocking it and her over. total damage on that one, idiot's nose broken, totalled the school computer (the one controlling the bells), one badly dented desk, a bunch of nicknacks, and a fistfull of sore knuckles. yes, i won it, the kid was bigger than me by at least double, but underestimated my speed and strength.

fight outside of the office, knocked out another idiot's teeth after he hit me in the head with an orange for no reason, also pulverized his lip as well as kicking him in the stomach hard enough to throw him up against the wall.

group attack on me when i was coming out of the bathroom, not sure if i can call this one a win or not, though i did get away with no hits and no damage. they had been looking for a target and i was just the unlucky one, it wasn't a personal thing. obviously i took off swinging trying to break thru the group, one kid (a bystander trying to figure out what the hell was going on actually) tried to deflect my charge and ended up having to have a finger reattached (raked my face with his hand, no damage, but i bit off his finger in the process).

group attack aimed at me in 8th grade, i had done a trade with the kid earlier in the day, he removed the working parts of what i had traded him then tried to reneg on the trade saying it didn't work, obviously i knew better and refused, then his 2 cronies jumped out of the bushes and i got pulverized. ended up wrapped around the school flagpole and having the living shit beat out of me. though somehow i did manage to get up and royally fuck up one of'em as well as hitting the other with a large stick (removed him from the fight and the other ran). that was not fun.

had one in the neighborhood here, was playing basketball with some of the locals, one of them decided he was going to keep walking up to me and pinching where my nipples are while saying "honk honk" needless to say at the time i was massively homophobic and didn't like this, i gave him a good number of warnings as i didn't want a fight and he was a good bit larger than me, he didn't quit so i decked him, and yes, i did KO him on that one shot. also needless to say we were no longer civil to each other after that. and the others though it was a real hoot seeing him get knocked a few feet and knocked colder than a cucumber for the better part of a game. (we didn't move him either, we played around and over him)

the last fight i was in was with a now ex-friend (ironically the fight wasn't the cause of this, i had later found out how much of a shithead and asshole he was and decided simply not to have anything to do with him anymore). mind you this guy had demonstrated that he could deadlift me and bench the equivalent weight of 2 of me. this one night we had gotten into a verbal pissing match at another friend's house, finally he went after me, having not fought in several years i figured i'd just defend and let him wind himself, so i fell to the floor, rolled on my back, covering my chest with my legs and my head and neck with my arms, then weathered his blows for a bit whil spinning around (targetting him by sound only) and taking shots at him with my legs, needless to say he was very much pissed that i wouldn't face him the normal way, and i really couldn't he'd've torn me apart. finally he decided to try and pry me apart so he got on top of me and began making chest shots with his elbows (he did take out 3 ribs over my heart actually, and it healed into a boney plate because i never got it fixed, and he broke the center part of my ribcage, that healed into a ridged bone plate so i have some problems breathing, but my chest is much better protected now.) after a short time i simply said "fuck you keith" and sent him flying a good 10 feet into the opposite wall, he had made the mistake of getting his body on top of my legs so i launched him. that ended the fight as he was not only winded, but he knew he was fighting a losing battle. he only got some bruises, i walked away with a bit of damage to my chest. but i consider it a win as he backed down.
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Hmm, 4th grade had my arse handed to me on a silver platter, didn't even put up a defense back then.

10th Grade, 3 fought, 3 won:
1) 2 blow take down, one to the solar plexes, one to the knee cap, he avoided me after that
2) grabbed wrist as he was doing the "wha" and pushing thing after pointing out his crude behavior. Twisted his arm around, knocked out back of knees, took right arm behind back and forced him to ground by trying to move the right arm to the left arm position, knealed with one knee on his temple till his apologized to me and the girls whom he was molesting
3) Sour flicker ball jerk wanted to get into a fight with me because for being such an athletic guy I grab him and flung him to the ground, jumping on him to boot (which, in that game, is a very polite and nice way to take someone down, no blood involved). Took a kick to the side of my right knee, took his arm, forcefully spun him around and with my other hand threw his head groundward. He almost recovered from the throw till I kicked out his foot so he took a dive into the grass. Ever since then whenever I got the ball he would try to tackle me and I would just use my most evil block of a piercing elbow to his sternum or a sidestep and elbow to back of skull.

11th Grade, 1 fought 1 won:
Some jerk wanted to attack me and my friend because he looked dark and odd and I looked geeky. I dared him to punch me in the torso, he did, I laughed and returned the favor except went for weaker lower abs. I suppose it wasn't a fight other than a show of strength, but I didn't know the idiot.

Past that I did spar a lot with my friends Petar L. and Peter D. - no holds bar and out for blood spar to, we never seemed to do just tap, or if we did the tap would be considered a hit to other people.

Am I proud of any of these, no. I'm more a pacifist, but I will fight if I have to or if the need arises.
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I've been in a coupe fights, or should I say brawls, and nothing serious has never happened. Most of them happened at the lower stage primary school, so it's been a while. I hate fighting and I have never started a fight myself. I do remember a few fights/brawls, but there are no juicy stories to tell about them as you can see from these examples...


1. When I was twelve, there was this punk on the other class who always started bitching me at the school yard. One day I was going to the dining hall with my friend, when I met him at the hallway.

He pushed me (not very strongly) and I pushed back as hard as I could. The guy fell on the floor and looked at me, puzzled. He stood up and started walking towards very fast. I knew what he had in his mind, so I took quick action and pulled his wooley hat down on his eyes and quickly walked into the dining hall.


2. Some time later he decided to take his revenge at me. We wrestled a bit and then he started choking me. I removed his hands and pushed him away. End of that brawl. At the end of that school year we all went to the upper stage primary school, all except him. I have never seen him since, though I've heard some stuff about him. He certainly ain't one of those brightest and friendlist kind of people around. ;)


I remember that at the first grade of the upper stage primary school I threw one of my class'mates' against the wall of our English class. He had been making fun of me for some time and for one "violence" actually helped. Since then he hasn't said anything like that and we have no antipathy towards each other anymore.


I don't actually remember more stuff. There have been a few other brawls, but as I said, nothing special. I haven't been in a fight since I turned 14 and I hope to keep things that way. :p
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i wonder if a first blood duel that turned into a no-holds-barred out-to-kill battle counts as fight, if it does then the last fight would have been at college last spring, a staff duel, i won, but my face got flayed open, the other guy got knocked down.
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In my early Years I was kinda Inconsistent with fighting. Grades K-4. Well Kindergarten I didn't really beat anybody up. First Grade Got into little tiny fights which were broken Up. I remember going to this camp when I was 7, where there were just a bunch (for lack of a better description) of Niggers, spics and white trash (sorry, for the racial slurs, But I disliked practically everyone there, and everyone there seemed to get pissed off at the drop of a hat). 2nd grade, I was a Hellraiser. I was constantly getting yelled at for beating people up. #rd I calmed down but I did beat up the son of the head of the board of education.


I got into a few little melees. I beat up some one person, but mostly I'd avoid fighting b/c I know I'd get my ass kicked there.

One that I hated growing up was the fact that people would think I'm a wimp/pussy b/c I was this tall, skinny kid. despite that fact, I am able to throw a hard, nasty punch, and I am fairly strong(can pick up my older brother and put him in the helecopter). Well I guess fighting with my bro is what helped me kick some ass. Anybody here ever been underestimated in a fight, and wound up winning?

Again Sorry for the racial slurs. iactually live in a place and have friends (black, White, and Hispanic, asian) where we can throw around racial slurs, jokingly and not get offended.
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I used to get into fights when I was a kid all of the time. People seemed to think they were gonna kick my ass or something. Last time I had any form of a fight was back in 9th grade, hell that's about 8yrs ago now. Dude I grew up with in the neighborhood, pretty much a fat ass white wannabe was always hitting people square in the back. He did it once in the lunch room and I was about to go off, but I sat back down like a puss. (That was the first year for no tolerance. Basically it doesn't matter what happens, you fight you go to jail. cuffed and dragged out of school. literally.) Well, a few days later that gave a few people the nerve to wanna go after me yet again. So one day, I was upstairs with a friend and fatass came wandering up. He said some shit or something, then slapped me in the face. So I hauled back, cupped my hand and caught every inch of his fucking face in my palm. It turned to a shoving match after that and we got broke up pretty quick. Which was good, because somebody behind me kept pushing me into him. It was a loud enough of a slap that people down the hall heard and came running to see.

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One fight ever in 7th grade. Got my wrist broken, a bloody lip, but he lost 2 teeth. More of a draw than anything cause a teacher broke it up before anything more happened. God, my parents were pissed.
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Hmmm... I think overall I'm at about a 90% "win" rating.

Lets see. Numerous fights at school. Usually one or two hit wonders.
Notables:
-Angry idiot walks up to me and gets in my face. I headbutt angry idiot. Angry idiot drops to ground crying.
-Same angry idiot ambushes me at locker. Attacks from side, flailing with shitty punches at my back. I turn slightly, keeping hunched, grab angry idiots rear leg behind the knee and give a nice big heave-ho. Angry idiot gets airborne and smashes down into concrete floor.
-Another angry idiot hits me and breaks my glasses. Roughly 20 other people join me in the pumelling of this one.
-In a dispute that got out of hand smashed a good friends teeth. Since then have reservations about hitting at the head in anything but a serious fight.
-Stupid tae kwon do wannabe has at me with nunchuku that he had very little clue as to use. After deflecting a few attacks I managed to catch one end, get the chain around his fingers, pull it until the skin has been broken and he's bleeding. Continue applying pressure nearly breaking them until he stops hitting me with his spare hand.
-Got attacked by about a dozen year 10 guys when I was in grade 7. Shoulder barged one in the groin and did the bolt.


Into real life... Several "barfights", sports related brawls, and other brawls.
-Idiot at club keeps harassing me and friends. On dance floor keeps "bumping" us. Off dance floor is spouting abuse at us. Back on dance floor wait until he comes at us again and smack his in the solar plexus. He collapses, bouncers have seen what happened. Grab him, drag him out, leave me be.
-Idiot at college attacks me with pool cue. Disarm him (love aikido), he start going with some crappy side kicks that were shit easy to block. Throws a punch, I use a koto gaeshi to throw him. He gets up, comes back at me and starts a grappling (stupid move, I'm nearly a foot taller and a good 40kilos heavier), I initiate another throw, then stop, realising that it would send him through a plate glass window. Not that injuring him would have bothered me, its just I would have had to have paid for the window.
-Aforementioned idiot was also the source of many fights at school. Another great one of his was to attack me from behind while I'm sitting down. He went for a headlock/chokehold. I grabbed his arm, twisted this way and that (forget the aikido techniques name) and send him over my shoulder to land infront of me.
-BIG BRAWL. About 40 people per side at a goddamn inter-col tennis match. Complete melee. Was 3 on 1 for a mement until a friendly crash tackled one and evened the odds slightly. Came out of that with only slight bruises and scratching. Some 6 people ended up in hospital.
-Another big brawl. About 20 people a side this time. Again, inter-col, but this time in defense of the college. Experience always wins out. The stupid idiots who were having a go didn't.

And like I said. Many other sports fights (breaking out in mid game and on the sidelines) as well as lots of drunken idiots looking to beat up someone big to impress their friends. Drunken morons vs sober me = they lose.

Well. Thats about all I can be bothered with at the moment.

*edit* Also I do a lot of no holds barred sparring to either a tapout, blood or concession. Sometimes with weapons. Either way its a good learning experience.
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weemadando wrote:Hmmm... I think overall I'm at about a 90% "win" rating.

Lets see. Numerous fights at school. Usually one or two hit wonders.
Notables:
-Angry idiot walks up to me and gets in my face. I headbutt angry idiot. Angry idiot drops to ground crying.
-Same angry idiot ambushes me at locker. Attacks from side, flailing with shitty punches at my back. I turn slightly, keeping hunched, grab angry idiots rear leg behind the knee and give a nice big heave-ho. Angry idiot gets airborne and smashes down into concrete floor.
-Another angry idiot hits me and breaks my glasses. Roughly 20 other people join me in the pumelling of this one.
-In a dispute that got out of hand smashed a good friends teeth. Since then have reservations about hitting at the head in anything but a serious fight.
-Stupid tae kwon do wannabe has at me with nunchuku that he had very little clue as to use. After deflecting a few attacks I managed to catch one end, get the chain around his fingers, pull it until the skin has been broken and he's bleeding. Continue applying pressure nearly breaking them until he stops hitting me with his spare hand.
-Got attacked by about a dozen year 10 guys when I was in grade 7. Shoulder barged one in the groin and did the bolt.


Into real life... Several "barfights", sports related brawls, and other brawls.
-Idiot at club keeps harassing me and friends. On dance floor keeps "bumping" us. Off dance floor is spouting abuse at us. Back on dance floor wait until he comes at us again and smack his in the solar plexus. He collapses, bouncers have seen what happened. Grab him, drag him out, leave me be.
-Idiot at college attacks me with pool cue. Disarm him (love aikido), he start going with some crappy side kicks that were shit easy to block. Throws a punch, I use a koto gaeshi to throw him. He gets up, comes back at me and starts a grappling (stupid move, I'm nearly a foot taller and a good 40kilos heavier), I initiate another throw, then stop, realising that it would send him through a plate glass window. Not that injuring him would have bothered me, its just I would have had to have paid for the window.
-Aforementioned idiot was also the source of many fights at school. Another great one of his was to attack me from behind while I'm sitting down. He went for a headlock/chokehold. I grabbed his arm, twisted this way and that (forget the aikido techniques name) and send him over my shoulder to land infront of me.
-BIG BRAWL. About 40 people per side at a goddamn inter-col tennis match. Complete melee. Was 3 on 1 for a mement until a friendly crash tackled one and evened the odds slightly. Came out of that with only slight bruises and scratching. Some 6 people ended up in hospital.
-Another big brawl. About 20 people a side this time. Again, inter-col, but this time in defense of the college. Experience always wins out. The stupid idiots who were having a go didn't.

And like I said. Many other sports fights (breaking out in mid game and on the sidelines) as well as lots of drunken idiots looking to beat up someone big to impress their friends. Drunken morons vs sober me = they lose.

Well. Thats about all I can be bothered with at the moment.

*edit* Also I do a lot of no holds barred sparring to either a tapout, blood or concession. Sometimes with weapons. Either way its a good learning experience.
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I see people posting here with single digit numbers on how many fights they've been in. LoL. I fought almost daily in grade school. The moniters on the playground would do nothing. I'm a big kid, i was always strong for my age. In fifth grade I took on the whole male part of my class, one at a time... and one... But this one mexican kid kicked my ass because he was actually trained to box at an early age.
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SolidSnake wrote:I see people posting here with single digit numbers on how many fights they've been in. LoL. I fought almost daily in grade school. The moniters on the playground would do nothing. I'm a big kid, i was always strong for my age. In fifth grade I took on the whole male part of my class, one at a time... and one... But this one mexican kid kicked my ass because he was actually trained to box at an early age.
I was always bigger than the other kids. So I never had kids looking to get into a fight with me. And I went to a relatively safe school. Only averaged about 1 death a year.
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