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Gore: Bush Making Serious Mistakes
Wed Nov 20, 7:24 PM ET Add U.S. National - AP to My Yahoo!


By WILL LESTER, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON (AP) - Al Gore (news - web sites) said Wednesday that President Bush (news - web sites) is making serious mistakes in the war on terrorism and called his economic plan "a catastrophic failure." That gives Democrats "an excellent chance" to win the White House in 2004, whoever their nominee is, he said.




"Now the warlords are back in control, the Taliban is back in (Afghanistan (news - web sites)) and for a variety of reasons al-Qaida is back at full strength and Osama is back making his threats against the U.S," Gore said in an interview with The Associated Press.


The Republicans dominated in the midterm elections this year, but that is because the economy's problems "did not count for a lot in the midterm elections because they shifted the national dialogue to a war with Iraq and — as the president's chief of staff put it — they waited until Labor Day to roll out a new product line," Gore said, referring to a possible war with Iraq.


Gore is on the brink of deciding if he will run for the Democratic nomination in a chance to oppose Bush a second time. He said he would decide over the Christmas holidays.


But he said his "gut feeling is that whoever the Democratic nominee turns out to be will have an excellent chance in 2004 simply because the Bush-Cheney economic plan has been a catastrophic failure."


"By 2004, the economic consequences of this plan, now that they've got both the House and the Senate and they're unlikely to change their blueprint, I don't think it has a chance in the world of working, unfortunately," he said.


Gore has said the whole Bush economic plan and economic team should be thrown out, and the administration should start over with tax cuts aimed specifically at the middle class.


The former vice president was interviewed by telephone from Los Angeles.


As for the war on terror, Gore was critical of the Bush administration for turning its focus toward Iraqi President Saddam Hussein (news - web sites) before it had dealt effectively with al-Qaida. He said administration officials have said al-Qaida "has reconstituted itself, regained its strength and now poses just as much of a threat to the United States today as it did immediately prior to Sept. 11. That sounds like we have not made much headway."


And Gore said top military officials say the United States is losing ground in Afghanistan.


Gore said that "after a magnificent response to 9-11, President Bush then lost focus."

"As the fall elections approach, for whatever reason, he decided to start a new war," Gore said. "Saddam Hussein is a bad guy who deserves to be removed from power. But he is not the one who attacked us Sept. 11. He is not the one who is threatening to kill us right now.

"The president succeeded during the election campaign in convincing a majority that Saddam Hussein and al-Qaida are practically the same thing ... but he convinced the majority of something that is not true and is not backed up by any evidence that I am aware of."

White House officials dismissed Gore's comments as political posturing.

"The president is uniting the country and the world in the global war on terrorism and we're making great progress both at home and abroad," said White House spokeswoman Claire Buchan.

Gore must now decide whether the time is right for him to make another run for president amid this economic and international turmoil.

"It's not just about me, it's about how I can best serve my country, whether I would be the best candidate for Democrats to put forward against Bush," Gore said. Gore got the most votes of any Democratic candidate ever and more votes than President Bush, even though he narrowly lost the electoral vote count.

After keeping a low profile for months after the election loss, the 54-year-old Gore has gradually re-emerged in recent months through a series of policy speeches and a limited number of campaign appearances for Democratic candidates. He's making a book tour with his wife, Tipper, promoting the book they wrote together, "Joined At The Heart: The Transformation of the American Family."

In the last few days, Gore has made numerous TV appearances, including interviews with Barbara Walters, David Letterman (news - Y! TV) and Larry King.

Gore acknowledged he has plenty of work to do winning over Democrats who remain skeptical after his loss to Bush.

He said he will "have to convince the political insiders and the journalistic community that I'd learned enough to run a better campaign."


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What do you guys think?

He couldn't even win his HOME STATE of Tennessee....if he had won that
one, he wouldnt even have to have bothered with the entire florida recount
fuckup mess.

Oh god no...not another repeat...the last one was bad enough...oh jeebus

I dont think Gore has what it takes to beat Bush. It really depends on how things go over the next year or two.

I think Bush's biggest enemy is gonna be the economy, IF there is no more big terrorist hits and we are not at war with Iraq during the elections.

I would rather see someone else besides Gore run in the democratic ticket. I just dont like the guy that much.

If it somehow came to a choice between Algore and Hillary, I'd .... I'd .... well, that's just not a pleasant thought at all...

Damn. That will be a fucked up election in two years.

I predict John Kerry will win the Dem nomination

Gore's right about Shrubby's handling of the war on terrorists not allied to US Interests. The fact that he's prepared to upset the applecart known as the American power structure and publically declare that the emperor has no clothes, however, will be the kiss of death to any chance of winning nomination for any position more important than dogcatcher.

Gore doesn't have a shred of credibility, inside his party or out of it. Hillary Clinton is the only credible Democratic nominee for 2004--Gore is a has-been who lost to Bush the first time, and his sniping at Bush from the sidelines is only playing well with the hardcore left that wouldn't vote for Bush no matter who was running against him. And he can't play the "They stole the election" angle, because if the voters cared about that, they wouldn't have elected Republicans this year (and it would be stupid to use the same strategy that McAuliffe promised would win big and instead got the Dems clobbered). Gephardt and Daschelle are both too closely tied to the election day debacle this year. Kerry is pretty clean, and policy-wise, probably the least loathesome candidate the Democrats have, but he's a weak candidate with the personality of a boulder.

Hillary is a true-blue liberal, and the left is going to dominate the Democratic Party for at least two years (see Nancy Pelosi getting elected minority leader). She won big in New York, she's popular among women, and the democrats can home the Clinton name brings out the black vote in big numbers. She's utterly despised by the right, which could work two ways. Her candidacy will likely mobilize the conservative base, but all she needs is for some idiot like Pat Robertson to call her the Whore of Babylon or something to get all the moderates and independents disgusted--in other words, the far right might sabotage Bush by making the Republicans looks like a bunch of frothing, welfare mother-kicking radicals. The biggest problem she'd face is 1) moderates and independents, who decide the elections, don't trust her, and 2) the baggage that comes from being married to Bill. She might do better to wait until '08 and hope the public is tired of 8 years of Republican control of the government and will vote for ANY Democrat.

jegs2 wrote:If it somehow came to a choice between Algore and Hillary, I'd .... I'd .... well, that's just not a pleasant thought at all...

I was told or heard form somewhere's that Hillary was told NOT to run for the high office.

Can't really verify any truth to this so...

I'm pretty sure Hillary will wait untill 08 unless the current political situation changes alot in the next year or so. She won't risk becoming irrelevent like Gore.

I'm pretty sure Hillary will wait untill 08 unless the current political situation changes alot in the next year or so. She won't risk becoming irrelevent like Gore.
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I agree. I heard a reason yesterday why she should wait till 2008. It made a lot of sense but now I cant remember. Oh Im getting old.

TrailerParkJawa wrote:

I'm pretty sure Hillary will wait untill 08 unless the current political situation changes alot in the next year or so. She won't risk becoming irrelevent like Gore.
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I agree. I heard a reason yesterday why she should wait till 2008. It made a lot of sense but now I cant remember. Oh Im getting old.

Probably to weed out all the other canidates at the moment. By 08 Gore will be gone, Kerry would have had his shot, Liberman will be done. She wants the compitition in her own party to be smaller, IMHO. Also, if Bush gets reelected in 04 the she will be running agaist a new Republican canidate instead of the incumbant. Bush should be pretty much in for 04 unless anything unforseen happens. The econemy is on the mend on its own and if any attacks on American happen, it will just solidify his position.

They are gonna throw the next election as barring Bush being found as killing puppys and drinking Virgin blood, his popluarity rating is high enough he can breeze through this time with 60-70% of the Vote

Also, if Bush gets reelected in 04 the she will be running agaist a new Republican canidate instead of the incumbant.

Thats what is was!

They are gonna throw the next election as barring Bush being found as killing puppys and drinking Virgin blood, his popluarity rating is high enough he can breeze through this time with 60-70% of the Vote

I generally agree, but Bush Sr had similar if not better numbers and he still lost. However, I think Bush Jr has the advantage that I think most Americans wont blame him for the economy like they did with poppa.

--If Al Gore runs for president again every last one of you should support him. There isn't anyone else who has the back bone to stand up to Bush. In addition, we haven't got much choice anyhow since the rest of the democrats seem to be just fine with backing Bush and idiocy in general regardless of the cost (there are a few exceptions, but not many).

Why should I support Gore?

--Watch B5. If you want to live under a government similar to the Earth Gov. dictatorship go ahead and don't vote for Al Gore (or whoever the alternative is to Bush). Of course, most Americans just don't give a shit until something bad happens to them (by then it will be far far too late).

Having never seen B5, I will repeat Phong's question:
Why should I support Gore? (Hello People's Republic of Haven...)

TrailerParkJawa wrote:I think Bush's biggest enemy is gonna be the economy, IF there is no more big terrorist hits and we are not at war with Iraq during the elections.

No problem.Why bothering with the economy when war makes you popular?


Wars without end


Future republican slogan for the reelection of Bush at the sixth term

I'm sure once the economy gets better, the War on Terrorism will stop in it's tracks, even if it's not done.

Even with TIPS, and all the other stuff, I still think America is far from a police state, and 4 more years with Bush in office won't change that. Perhaps, he'll remove Asscroft from the AG position.

Not a Hippie, not a Liberal, no longer a Redneck, I'll still throw my support too Gore only I'll be ready too register in 2005, or the 2006 Mid terms.

Nova Andromeda wrote:--If Al Gore runs for president again every last one of you should support him. There isn't anyone else who has the back bone to stand up to Bush. In addition, we haven't got much choice anyhow since the rest of the democrats seem to be just fine with backing Bush and idiocy in general regardless of the cost (there are a few exceptions, but not many).

I'd cut off my hand before voting for Gore (or nearly any Democrat).

The Democrats need to get their heads and their asses rewired before they do anything stupid like front Gore again.


As to Gore, why won't he just shut the fuck up? Yeah I know it sucks for him that he won the popular but lost the election, but that's over now. He needs to stop whining like a little bitch. He was a senator and a two term vice president, that's good enough for most people. If I were him I do one of two things:
1) retire and go play golf every day or
2) be like Carter and try to help out the world through charity work.
This bullshit that he's pulling now is unacceptable and will only work to further tarnish his party's image.

Al Gore, grow up you whining little weasel.

Gore will NEVER have my support as long as he chooses a Fundmentlist, Young Earth Creatonist like Senator John Liberman(Putting the Bible Back in the Goverment! Don't forget his Views on Guns(Namley complete banning, repossesion of existing weapons with prison time if you don't give them up)