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The new Mike_6002 be banned thread
Posted: 2002-11-23 10:43pm
by Sea Skimmer
He's promise to shape up hasn't happened. Its time for action. For this I have created a new poll as many have changed their minds.
Posted: 2002-11-23 10:46pm
by haas mark
Ban him. He has done nothing but exhibit trollish behaviors as far as actual posts. He has neared my own posts per day, which is quite a feat. And only one in every twenty or thirty posts has actual content or meaning to it. I say full out ban the motherfucker. Not to mention the insulsts for no apparent reason.
Posted: 2002-11-23 10:51pm
by Joe
Temporary. Try and teach him a lesson first, and if it doesn't work make it permanent.
Posted: 2002-11-23 10:51pm
by haas mark
Durran Korr wrote:Temporary. Try and teach him a lesson first, and if it doesn't work make it permanent.
We have tried teaching him a lesson. It hasn't worked. I seriously think it's time for a permanent ban.
Posted: 2002-11-23 10:52pm
by David
I once visited a board that relied heavely on temp bans. First you get a warning, then a 24 hour ban, then a three day ban, then a perm ban. Some of the best posters had been minor trolls at one point or another. A temporary "spank" does miracles for a persons attitude when posting. The problem with boards like this is that people think they can act and say whatever they want, so long as they don't make direct threats, without being punished. He has been warned, give him a three day ban. If he comes back, then we see how he acts, and if he doesn't, then it is no great loss.
Posted: 2002-11-23 10:53pm
by Kuja
verilon wrote:Ban him. He has done nothing but exhibit trollish behaviors as far as actual posts. He has neared my own posts per day, which is quite a feat. And only one in every twenty or thirty posts has actual content or meaning to it. I say full out ban the motherfucker. Not to mention the insulsts for no apparent reason.
I'm with Verilon.
Posted: 2002-11-23 10:53pm
by Stormbringer
temp or perm. We need to do something about that little maggot.
Posted: 2002-11-23 10:54pm
by haas mark
David wrote:I once visited a board that relied heavely on temp bans. First you get a warning, then a 24 hour ban, then a three day ban, then a perm ban. Some of the best posters had been minor trolls at one point or another. A temporary "spank" does miracles for a persons attitude when posting. The problem with boards like this is that people think they can act and say whatever they want, so long as they don't make direct threats, without being punished. He has been warned, give him a three day ban. If he comes back, then we see how he acts, and if he doesn't, then it is no great loss.
I guess that makes sense. A temporary ban may do him some good, but how loing after that can we keep hm around? If he acts up within twenty-four hours, I say ban him altogether. But that is just mny opinion.
Posted: 2002-11-23 10:57pm
by David
verilon wrote:David wrote:I once visited a board that relied heavely on temp bans. First you get a warning, then a 24 hour ban, then a three day ban, then a perm ban. Some of the best posters had been minor trolls at one point or another. A temporary "spank" does miracles for a persons attitude when posting. The problem with boards like this is that people think they can act and say whatever they want, so long as they don't make direct threats, without being punished. He has been warned, give him a three day ban. If he comes back, then we see how he acts, and if he doesn't, then it is no great loss.
I guess that makes sense. A temporary ban may do him some good, but how loing after that can we keep hm around? If he acts up within twenty-four hours, I say ban him altogether. But that is just mny opinion.
People banned are put on probation for awhile. There is no set time, but the banee must prove to the baner that he/she has changed his/her ways.
Posted: 2002-11-23 10:59pm
by haas mark
David wrote:verilon wrote:David wrote:I once visited a board that relied heavely on temp bans. First you get a warning, then a 24 hour ban, then a three day ban, then a perm ban. Some of the best posters had been minor trolls at one point or another. A temporary "spank" does miracles for a persons attitude when posting. The problem with boards like this is that people think they can act and say whatever they want, so long as they don't make direct threats, without being punished. He has been warned, give him a three day ban. If he comes back, then we see how he acts, and if he doesn't, then it is no great loss.
I guess that makes sense. A temporary ban may do him some good, but how loing after that can we keep hm around? If he acts up within twenty-four hours, I say ban him altogether. But that is just mny opinion.
People banned are put on probation for awhile. There is no set time, but the banee must prove to the baner that he/she has changed his/her ways.
Okay. I was just wondering. Thanks for the info.
Posted: 2002-11-23 10:59pm
by Sea Skimmer
I'd be fine with a permanent ban at this point. However the vote is tied. In that case I'd say make it a 1-3 days, followed by a similar length of time of evaluation. If he reverts, that's it.
He's been warned about his spamming since his 150th post by me and soon after by others. We've been more then fair and given him one chance already. I'm not big on what would be a third chance.
Posted: 2002-11-23 11:00pm
by Joe
We could also try deleting all or a good number of his bullshit posts. He doesn't deserve his current post count.
Posted: 2002-11-23 11:03pm
by Crayz9000
Durran Korr wrote:We could also try deleting all or a good number of his bullshit posts. He doesn't deserve his current post count.
I've been keeping a close eye on all his posts in the STvsSW forum. Problem is, the bulk of his spam is in *this* forum.
Posted: 2002-11-23 11:04pm
by David
It helps that the mods there are a little more independent. All of them can ban people, so thet can keep up with the trolls they ban.
Also folks, please note, while I here people complaining about his spamming, they don't seem to have a problem repling to his spam. This incourages the him and compounds the problem. Many spammers are people that want attention. If they post a thread, ignore it. Don't respond and don't tell him to quit spamming, just ignore him.
Posted: 2002-11-23 11:08pm
by David
Durran Korr wrote:We could also try deleting all or a good number of his bullshit posts. He doesn't deserve his current post count.
You have no idea how long it takes a mod to delete posts. If I tried to delete all of his posts, it would take me several hours at least. The only way to mass delete someones posts is to delete the threads he/she posted in. Since in Mike_6002's case that includes most of the threads posted over that last couple of days, I won't do that.
Posted: 2002-11-23 11:10pm
by Crayz9000
David wrote:You have no idea how long it takes a mod to delete posts. If I tried to delete all of his posts, it would take me several hours at least. The only way to mass delete someones posts is to delete the threads he/she posted in. Since in Mike_6002's case that includes most of the threads posted over that last couple of days, I won't do that.
I've actually been wondering why the system does that. One can post a reply in a matter of seconds, but it takes at least half a damned minute to delete something.
Posted: 2002-11-23 11:10pm
by HemlockGrey
Can't mods just reduce post count without deleting posts, tho?
Posted: 2002-11-23 11:11pm
by Captain Cyran
He's beat me in posts after how many days?...geez, not to mention. I've read a number of posts, and although somewhat ammusing sometimes they have no purpose, temporary ban. See if that works, if it doesn't squish the bugger with the heel of the Imperial Smack-down
Posted: 2002-11-23 11:11pm
by Crayz9000
Cyril wrote:Can't mods just reduce post count without deleting posts, tho?
I cannot comment as to the accuracy of that assessment.
Posted: 2002-11-23 11:13pm
by David
It is just the design of this board. The problem is that while can look up every post he has ever made in a matter of seconds, to delete them I have to go to each post individualy and delete them.
Posted: 2002-11-23 11:19pm
by David
Captain_Cyran wrote:He's beat me in posts after how many days?...geez, not to mention. I've read a number of posts, and although somewhat ammusing sometimes they have no purpose, temporary ban. See if that works, if it doesn't squish the bugger with the heel of the Imperial Smack-down
I've gone through a number of his posts and noticed the same thing. The problem is that I cannot go through all the threads posted so I wait for threads like this to pop up. Then I go through the complained about member's posts and find out what went wrong. Individually there is nothing wrong with Mike_6002's posts. It is the fact that they add up to nothing but a load of crap.
Everyone makes spam posts. I have no problem with that because it adds flavor to the board. Without those it would be dull and lifeless. The problems arise when a member's posts are nothing but crap.
Posted: 2002-11-24 12:02pm
by Falkenhorst
I say ban him. I've never seen anything worthwhile from him.
Posted: 2002-11-24 01:30pm
by Zaia
He is annoying, and I can't stand how he latched onto Shep and just worships him blindly (or so it seems). I guess I see now how he does mostly post spam, but I think a temporary ban is fairer. That way, you give him a clear-cut warning and maybe he'll listen this time. Some people need action taken against them before they understand; Mike might be one of those people who learn the hard way, since our verbal warnings have done nothing.
I say give him a temporary ban, and make it absolutely clear that if he doesn't fix his behaviour, he'll be banned permanantly.
Posted: 2002-11-24 01:39pm
by ArmorPierce
I say give him a slap on his wrist and give him a ban for a couple of days and see if he shapes up.
Posted: 2002-11-24 01:45pm
by Stormbringer
It's ovewrwhelmingly in favor of doing something. There are only three people that want him left alone versus 23 that want something done. Whatever we do, let's do something.