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How the hell does "Braveheart" qualify as Sci-Fi ?
Posted: 2002-11-24 01:59am
by Sokar
I as watching "Stargate" on the Sci-Fi Channel just a few minutes ago and they had an ad for "Braveheart" as one of there Scinema Events......WTF!!?? Did I miss the William Wallace as a clone alien hybrid scene, or is Sci-Fi just giving up on original programming altogether and becoming TNT with John Edward? Fuck, I might as well cancle cable, Sci-Fi was abouty the only thing I ever watch , now no Farscape, no B5(at a decent time when Im home) and that fucking coniving con man John Edward on all the fucking time.......Fuck it.......
Re: How the hell does "Braveheart" qualify as Sci-
Posted: 2002-11-24 02:04am
by GrandMasterTerwynn
Sokar wrote:I as watching "Stargate" on the Sci-Fi Channel just a few minutes ago and they had an ad for "Braveheart" as one of there Scinema Events......WTF!!?? Did I miss the William Wallace as a clone alien hybrid scene, or is Sci-Fi just giving up on original programming altogether and becoming TNT with John Edward? Fuck, I might as well cancle cable, Sci-Fi was abouty the only thing I ever watch , now no Farscape, no B5(at a decent time when Im home) and that fucking coniving con man John Edward on all the fucking time.......Fuck it.......
Sci-Fi is apparently run by a group of people who know nothing about science fiction. As a result, they've been moving it toward more "conventional" stuff with just a little sci fi thrown in.
Posted: 2002-11-24 02:12am
by Sea Skimmer
Because it was devoiced from real life when it came to the reality of what it portrayed?
Posted: 2002-11-24 02:14am
by neoolong
Don't forget they have a number of orginal made-for-tv movies. Some of them aren't that bad. I actually liked the one with Bruce Campbell and Chase Masterson. And, I'm glad that Stargate Sg-1 got renewed for a seventh season.
Re: How the hell does "Braveheart" qualify as Sci-
Posted: 2002-11-24 02:23am
by Dalton
Sokar wrote:I as watching "Stargate" on the Sci-Fi Channel just a few minutes ago and they had an ad for "Braveheart" as one of there Scinema Events......WTF!!?? Did I miss the William Wallace as a clone alien hybrid scene, or is Sci-Fi just giving up on original programming altogether and becoming TNT with John Edward? Fuck, I might as well cancle cable, Sci-Fi was abouty the only thing I ever watch , now no Farscape, no B5(at a decent time when Im home) and that fucking coniving con man John Edward on all the fucking time.......Fuck it.......
What Terwynn said. Seems that they're trying to broaden their range - and their ratings - at the expense of the channel's original target audience. Either that or they're taking whatever syndication deals they can get.
Posted: 2002-11-24 02:29am
by Sokar
Ok , they do win a point for SG-1, but their made for tv-movies have sucked major ass....Sabertooth, come on.........and the one with the giant pin wheel in Nepal were lousy , I can't say about the one with Masterson (hottie) and Campbell (B-Movie God that he is) .........Sci-Fi just plain sucks right now
As to "BH" being divorced from reality, I know its about as accurate as a class of third graders re-enacting Omaha beach......but thats not the point, its NOT in any way, shape or form SCIENCE FICTION......which I thought was the whole point behind having a Sci-Fi Network.
Posted: 2002-11-24 02:32am
by neoolong
Sokar wrote:Ok , they do win a point for SG-1, but their made for tv-movies have sucked major ass....Sabertooth, come on.........and the one with the giant pin wheel in Nepal were lousy , I can't say about the one with Masterson (hottie) and Campbell (B-Movie God that he is) .........Sci-Fi just plain sucks right now
As to "BH" being divorced from reality, I know its about as accurate as a class of third graders re-enacting Omaha beach......but thats not the point, its NOT in any way, shape or form SCIENCE FICTION......which I thought was the whole point behind having a Sci-Fi Network.
You would think that putting Crossing Over on a science fiction channel would tell people what it really is.
The sci-fi channel has really lost its way.
Posted: 2002-11-24 02:37am
by Sokar
Do not even get me started on that bastard John Edward.....Loathing does'nt even start to illustrate the depth of my disgust for that smug huckster. The fact that a known phony and con artist can get his own show just appals me to no end, makes me want to re-read Sagans "Demon Haunted World" just to purge any trace of his filth from my system
Posted: 2002-11-24 04:39am
by Patrick Degan
I believe that whichever genius at SciFi thought to run
Braveheart on their lineup saw the fact that William Wallace, in the movie, communes with the ghosts of his father and murdered lover; thereby including a supernatural element and thus "qualifies" it under the broad rubric of fantasy.
Though I like the theory that
Braveheart could be defined as SF or fantasy considering that any resemblance between the movie and the actual history of William Wallace is purely coincidental.
One of the main reasons why BH wound up on the SciFi lineup is due to the fact that USA Networks, which own SciFi, hold the syndication rights to this movie and will use it to fill time on the SciFi lineup just as they use
The Stand to fill time on USA.
And the programming philosophy of the Channel... well, just don't get me started on that rant.
Posted: 2002-11-24 04:50am
by Vympel
Patrick Degan wrote:I believe that whichever genius at SciFi thought to run
Braveheart on their lineup saw the fact that William Wallace, in the movie, communes with the ghosts of his father and murdered lover; thereby including a supernatural element and thus "qualifies" it under the broad rubric of fantasy.
Though I like the theory that
Braveheart could be defined as SF or fantasy considering that any resemblance between the movie and the actual history of William Wallace is purely coincidental.
One of the main reasons why BH wound up on the SciFi lineup is due to the fact that USA Networks, which own SciFi, hold the syndication rights to this movie and will use it to fill time on the SciFi lineup just as they use
The Stand to fill time on USA.
And the programming philosophy of the Channel... well, just don't get me started on that rant.
The Stand SUCKED ASS.
That is all.
Posted: 2002-11-24 03:52pm
by m112880
After beaveheart they have the 13th warror on.
Posted: 2002-11-24 04:12pm
by Stormbringer
m112880 wrote:After beaveheart they have the 13th warror on.
You can sort of sqeeze Eaters of the Dead (I refuse to call it that dumb name) by if you're liberal. But I can't see Braveheart.
Posted: 2002-11-24 04:18pm
by Sea Skimmer
Stormbringer wrote:m112880 wrote:After beaveheart they have the 13th warror on.
You can sort of sqeeze Eaters of the Dead (I refuse to call it that dumb name) by if you're liberal. But I can't see Braveheart.
I prefer my own name for it "Why man invented the automatic weapon"
But it is significantly closer to being sci fi then Braveheart.
Posted: 2002-11-24 04:36pm
by HemlockGrey
John Edwards, if you think about it, fits in perfect in the science fiction channel, sans 'science'.
Posted: 2002-11-24 10:16pm
by Skelron
Although it won't mean much to American's our Sci-Fi channel over here in the UK is actually quite good, the furthurest from Sci-Fi thewy got was a programme they ran called Unthinkable which still sounded like a great programme.... (It was on at a time where I am guareented to never get the TV... I.E before Midnight and after 4PM )
But on the theme of... Channels no longer having anything in common with the name they carry, UK Gold's programming seems to include more and More US stuff... where I can't even hear a UK extra.... ever! Names of stations rarely if ever it seems have anything to do with the contents, oh well.