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Ashcroft, you lying hypocrite ...

Posted: 2002-11-26 12:26pm
by Darth Wong
Everybody knows how Ashcroft is pushing for 24/7 monitoring of all communications of all Americans, right? Well, take a look at how his stripes have changed since Clinton was in power. This is a link to an article he wrote when Billy C tried to regulate the Internet:

http://usinfo.state.gov/journals/itgic/ ... e/gj-7.htm

EDIT: for those who don't want to bother clicking on the link, Ashcroft wrote an article entitled "Keep Big Brother's Hands Off The Internet". Quite a change of heart he's had since then, eh? :roll:

Posted: 2002-11-26 12:29pm
by Dahak
What did you expect? He's an politician...
Hypocrisy is a major item in the job description :roll:

Re: Ashcroft, you lying hypocrite ...

Posted: 2002-11-26 12:30pm
by Ted
He's republican, and a politician, of course he's gonna lie.

Re: Ashcroft, you lying hypocrite ...

Posted: 2002-11-26 12:30pm
by Knife
Darth Wong wrote:Everybody knows how Ashcroft is pushing for 24/7 monitoring of all communications of all Americans, right? Well, take a look at how his stripes have changed since Clinton was in power. This is a link to an article he wrote when Billy C tried to regulate the Internet:

http://usinfo.state.gov/journals/itgic/ ... e/gj-7.htm
I really hope Bush gives this guy the boot before the next election. AG's generally don't last a whole administration and Reno was one of the first to do so. I hope she is the last and Ashcroft goes bye bye.

Re: Ashcroft, you lying hypocrite ...

Posted: 2002-11-26 12:32pm
by MKSheppard
Ted wrote:He's a politician, of course he's gonna lie.
There, fixed it for you!

Re: Ashcroft, you lying hypocrite ...

Posted: 2002-11-26 12:33pm
by Ted
MKSheppard wrote:
Ted wrote:He's a republican, and a politician, of course he's gonna lie.
There, fixed it for you!

And of course he's a damn republican. Everyone knows they are lying buggers.
I never knew you were a democrat Shep!

Re: Ashcroft, you lying hypocrite ...

Posted: 2002-11-26 12:34pm
by MKSheppard
Ted wrote: And of course he's a damn politician. Everyone knows they are lying buggers.
Fixed it again! Do I have to point out that Billy C said our troops would be
home from bosnia in time for christmas, and they're now in their 4th or
5th year there?

Posted: 2002-11-26 12:38pm
by TrailerParkJawa
Fixed it again! Do I have to point out that Billy C said our troops would be
home from bosnia in time for christmas, and they're now in their 4th or
5th year there?
This is to be expected anytime troops are used. We still have troops in Saudi, Bosnia, Korea, etc. I dont know why Americans fall for the crap lines that the ground troops will go in then get out. That only works for a minor operation in some place small like Grenada.

I wonder if anyone is gonna try to stick Aschcroft to his article?

Posted: 2002-11-26 02:20pm
by Durandal
I don't know what everyone expected. Ashcroft is a fascist, put simply.

Posted: 2002-11-26 02:24pm
by Spanky The Dolphin
I'm with Shep on the Republican issue.

Ashcroft's actions really don't have much to do with the fact that he's a republican.

Posted: 2002-11-26 02:24pm
by Stormbringer
Durandal wrote:I don't know what everyone expected. Ashcroft is a fascist, put simply.
Yeah, he's a jack booted bastard. I think it's very telling that he lost to a dead guy.

Posted: 2002-11-26 03:51pm
by Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi
John Ashcroft: A lying, hypocrite out of touch with the common man. Or, in other words, your typical politician.

Re: Ashcroft, you lying hypocrite ...

Posted: 2002-11-26 03:58pm
by GrandMasterTerwynn
Knife wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:Everybody knows how Ashcroft is pushing for 24/7 monitoring of all communications of all Americans, right? Well, take a look at how his stripes have changed since Clinton was in power. This is a link to an article he wrote when Billy C tried to regulate the Internet:

http://usinfo.state.gov/journals/itgic/ ... e/gj-7.htm
I really hope Bush gives this guy the boot before the next election. AG's generally don't last a whole administration and Reno was one of the first to do so. I hope she is the last and Ashcroft goes bye bye.
I do not think Bush is going to fire Ashcroft before the end of his term. They're both right-wing Christian conservatives. Bush is gonna watch out for his own. Can't say the same thing for Colin Powell, who is far closer to the center than Bush is (And Powell will likely leave on his own accord anyway.)

Posted: 2002-11-26 05:13pm
by Rhadamanthus
Bah, we all know Democrats are absolute paragons of truth ....

" I did not have sexual relations.."
"Any President who lies to the American people should resign..."

I'll give you three guesses, but you should only need 1.

Posted: 2002-11-26 05:38pm
by Ted
Name me one president who HASN'T lied to the american people?

They're all politicians, politicians lie through their teeth. Heck, even Jedi know that! (mentioned by Obi-Wan in AotC)

Posted: 2002-11-26 06:13pm
by TrailerParkJawa
hmm..i cant think of anyone that has not lied. "Read my lips..." was a pretty good one. So was " I didnt inhale.."

Posted: 2002-11-26 06:23pm
by haas mark
TrailerParkJawa wrote:hmm..i cant think of anyone that has not lied. "Read my lips..." was a pretty good one. So was " I didnt inhale.."
"That depends on your definition of 'is.'"

Posted: 2002-11-26 06:29pm
by Dralan
"I've been criticized for going over the heads of the Congress. So, what's the fuss? A lot of things go over their heads." - Ronald Reagan 1985


I like this quote... I think it will fit nicely in this thread :D

Posted: 2002-11-26 06:39pm
by IRG CommandoJoe
Ted wrote:Name me one president who HASN'T lied to the american people?

They're all politicians, politicians lie through their teeth. Heck, even Jedi know that! (mentioned by Obi-Wan in AotC)
Honest Abe. :P

Posted: 2002-11-26 06:41pm
by haas mark
IRG CommandoJoe wrote:
Ted wrote:Name me one president who HASN'T lied to the american people?

They're all politicians, politicians lie through their teeth. Heck, even Jedi know that! (mentioned by Obi-Wan in AotC)
Honest Abe. :P
lol. George Washington. ;) "I cannot tell a lie." lol.

Posted: 2002-11-26 06:41pm
by IRG CommandoJoe
Hehe it'd be funny if "I cannot tell a lie" WAS a lie. :lol:

Posted: 2002-11-26 07:16pm
by Shinova
Did you guys know that Abe was originally planning to deport all the Blacks back to Africa or something?

Things could've been a lot different if Lincoln hadn't been assasinated.

Posted: 2002-11-26 07:22pm
by haas mark
IRG CommandoJoe wrote:Hehe it'd be funny if "I cannot tell a lie" WAS a lie. :lol:
It was.

Posted: 2002-11-26 07:23pm
by Raptor 597
Shinova wrote:Did you guys know that Abe was originally planning to deport all the Blacks back to Africa or something?

Things could've been a lot different if Lincoln hadn't been assasinated.
No, that the Western African country freeing slaves, which had a flag like the CSA one, before their was a CSA. Coindence? Maybe. Anyone you have a link too Lincoln's plan.

Posted: 2002-11-26 07:27pm
by Darth Wong
Rhadamanthus wrote:Bah, we all know Democrats are absolute paragons of truth ....

" I did not have sexual relations.."
"Any President who lies to the American people should resign..."

I'll give you three guesses, but you should only need 1.
I sense a lot of distraction attempts here. Billy Clinton's blowjob does not affect you in any way, shape or form. It was wholly irrelevant to the presidency. Ashcroft's about-face on Internet freedom and individual privacy, on the other hand, DOES affect you.