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Soldier 2025 - Stormtroopers are becoming reality

Posted: 2002-12-01 12:07pm
by Oberleutnant
From www.natick.army.mi ...


"New technologies anticipated for the future warfighter"


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Sgt. Joe Patterson, an enlisted advisor at Natick’s Operational Forces Interface Group, models Soldier 2025. The uniform acts as a "data bus," transporting data from areas such as the wrist-mounted weapon.


While many people may have been busy preparing for the year 2000, the U.S. Army Soldier Systems Center (Natick) has been busy envisioning and inventing technologies that will better protect the warfighter of the year 2025.

Led by Bob O’Brien, a team of Natick scientists and engineers has come together to brainstorm future warfighter systems. The team anticipates that the soldier of the future will don a multifunctional uniform constructed from smart, interactive textiles and other materials.

Such materials will be able to sense and react. For example, the warfighter of 2025’s uniform will be able to sense the warrior’s surroundings and change color to blend in with the environment, or detect and repel chemical agents. The uniform will also act as a “data bus,” passing data and information from, for example, a wrist-mounted weapon to the helmet-mounted display.

"Soldier 2025 takes technologies that we’re working on today one step further," said Robin St. Pere, team member at Strategic Communications.

Advances in nanotechnology will also benefit the soldier of 2025. Nanotechnology is the ability to manipulate materials on an atomic or molecular scale. This technology will improve the strength and durability of textile fibers, which will lead to vast improvements in ballistic protection for the soldier.

As a result of material advances, the soldier of 2025 will wear a helmet that is 40-60 percent lighter for protection against fragmentation threats. In addition to providing protection against shrapnel, it is anticipated that new materials will permit a bulletproof helmet to be developed that is somewhat heavier.

The helmet is expected to protect the soldier’s face and eyes from all threats, including environmental, energy, chemical, biological and ballistic. Nanotechnology is also expected to permit sophisticated capabilities to be included in the headgear subsystem. The subsystem will include a high-resolution display giving warfighters the ability to view tactical/situational data, maps and chemical/biological areas.

The headgear’s integral communication system will make it possible for a warfighter to transmit and receive information from his squad, other squads, his command group, remote sensors or even unmanned aerial vehicles performing reconnaissance.

Soldier 2025 will possess a microclimate conditioning subsystem incorporated into his belt. The mechanism will warm the soldier in cold weather and cool him in warm weather.


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The skin temperature sensor is part of the physiological status monitoring system and is located on the soldier’s arm.


The future warfighter will benefit from a physiological status monitoring system, which will keep track of information such as whether the soldier is dehydrated or sleep-deprived. The data would then possibly be transmitted to a medic, unit commander or both.

These are just a few of the ideas proposed at Natick. Some of these concepts may come to fruition as originally envisioned. However, inventing is a process of trial and error, and some products mentioned here may be altered and reconfigured along the way to best serve the soldier of the future.


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A vest worn by Soldier 2025 holds rocket rounds while a bayonet remains part of the carrying load



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Soldier 2025 will possess a microclimate conditioning subsystem incorporated into his belt.

Posted: 2002-12-01 12:08pm
by Evil Sadistic Bastard
Sounds good. But is it cost-effective?

Posted: 2002-12-01 12:08pm
by MKSheppard
Ha, it'll get nixed....Looks like a POS. The future is Woodland camo :twisted:

Posted: 2002-12-01 12:09pm
by Evil Sadistic Bastard
MKSheppard wrote:Ha, it'll get nixed....Looks like a POS. The future is Woodland camo :twisted:
Maybe for certain special forces.. otherwise it will be too expensive.to outfit all your soldiers with it.

Posted: 2002-12-01 12:21pm
by Raptor 597
Yes, we are moving too Wars, not Trek. We shall not become West Cost Hippies afterall. :D

Posted: 2002-12-01 12:28pm
by Mr Bean
Good Good...
Now get to the part about built in Gatling guns or at the very least a mintuature Mini-Gun :lol:

Posted: 2002-12-01 12:49pm
by Anarchist Bunny
Saw that a loooooooooooooooooooooooooooong time ago. I think it's suppose to be for city warfare situations. Still pretty cool, a wrist mounted 9mm with 4 shrapinel rockets, guns and visual visors allowing them to see what they're shooting at around a corner, sorta of stuff FPS's are made of.

Posted: 2002-12-01 12:54pm
by RadiO
anarchistbunny wrote:Saw that a loooooooooooooooooooooooooooong time ago. I think it's suppose to be for city warfare situations. Still pretty cool, a wrist mounted 9mm with 4 shrapinel rockets, guns and visual visors allowing them to see what they're shooting at around a corner, sorta of stuff FPS's are made of.
Yep. The same (if not more) capabilities as an MJ-12 Commando from Deus Ex. All they need are the ballistic shields on the upper arms and they're there. :shock:

Posted: 2002-12-01 12:55pm
by Evil Sadistic Bastard
Nah... Mj12 Commandos have sophisticated auditory systems and multi-spectral imaging. Not to mention they can rapid fire mini-rockets and have built in gatlings. And they look pretty damn cool besides.

Posted: 2002-12-01 01:02pm
by Master of Ossus
Looks more like Boba and Jango Fett than a stormtrooper, however I don't think it will be successful.

Posted: 2002-12-01 01:08pm
by neoolong
Master of Ossus wrote:Looks more like Boba and Jango Fett than a stormtrooper, however I don't think it will be successful.
The arm weapon thing looks like the weapon of the Fetts. And remember Jango Fett was the original of the troopers, just as this guy will be the original of our stormtroopers. :D

Posted: 2002-12-01 01:10pm
by Evil Sadistic Bastard
I'd settle for an arm-mounted flamethrower.

"You wanna knife me punk, huh, do ya? Have some of THIS!"

*FOOOOM*
*Punk runs around screaming and dying*

Posted: 2002-12-01 01:23pm
by Warspite
Evil Sadistic Bastard wrote:I'd settle for an arm-mounted flamethrower.

"You wanna knife me punk, huh, do ya? Have some of THIS!"

*FOOOOM*
*Punk runs around screaming and dying*
This reminds me alot like the good old Syndicate... :twisted:

Posted: 2002-12-01 01:24pm
by Evil Sadistic Bastard
Warspite wrote:
Evil Sadistic Bastard wrote:I'd settle for an arm-mounted flamethrower.

"You wanna knife me punk, huh, do ya? Have some of THIS!"

*FOOOOM*
*Punk runs around screaming and dying*
This reminds me alot like the good old Syndicate... :twisted:
At last! Someone who remembers. Oh how I loved the flamer... Nothing says "crowd control" quite like seeing one of your buddies running around on fire. :twisted:

Posted: 2002-12-01 01:29pm
by Warspite
Specially, mayhem time: all the agents nice and peacefull, in a large square with a lot of innocent by-standers, and suddendly... Gauss gun, minigun, and flamers to paint the town black! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

Back to topic... What the hell are those rockets doing on the man's wrists? Someone has been seeing too many movies... :roll:

Posted: 2002-12-01 01:31pm
by Evil Sadistic Bastard
Warspite wrote:Specially, mayhem time: all the agents nice and peacefull, in a large square with a lot of innocent by-standers, and suddendly... Gauss gun, minigun, and flamers to paint the town black! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
Oh, you mean the ORIGINAL Syndicate.

Right.

I liked the miniguns, they covered such a huge area. And the Gausses would turn enemy agents into huge blots of red with one shot...

Posted: 2002-12-01 01:35pm
by Warspite
Which one were you thinking about?

Posted: 2002-12-01 01:36pm
by data_link
Evil Sadistic Bastard wrote:
Warspite wrote:Specially, mayhem time: all the agents nice and peacefull, in a large square with a lot of innocent by-standers, and suddendly... Gauss gun, minigun, and flamers to paint the town black! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
Oh, you mean the ORIGINAL Syndicate.

Right.

I liked the miniguns, they covered such a huge area. And the Gausses would turn enemy agents into huge blots of red with one shot...
I personally liked the lasers... Enemy agents + lasers = vaporised. :twisted:

Posted: 2002-12-01 01:39pm
by Evil Sadistic Bastard
data_link wrote:
Evil Sadistic Bastard wrote:
Warspite wrote:Specially, mayhem time: all the agents nice and peacefull, in a large square with a lot of innocent by-standers, and suddendly... Gauss gun, minigun, and flamers to paint the town black! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
Oh, you mean the ORIGINAL Syndicate.

Right.

I liked the miniguns, they covered such a huge area. And the Gausses would turn enemy agents into huge blots of red with one shot...
I personally liked the lasers... Enemy agents + lasers = vaporised. :twisted:
Ehehe... Move to another topic.

Posted: 2002-12-01 02:03pm
by kheegster
Umm...would a wrist-mounted weapon by particularly good for stability?

KG

Posted: 2002-12-01 02:26pm
by Evil Sadistic Bastard
kheegan wrote:Umm...would a wrist-mounted weapon by particularly good for stability?

KG
No. But try sticking it into an idiots chest and firing it and see how much it misses.

Posted: 2002-12-01 06:54pm
by Howedar
If the wrist-mounted weapon is 9mm, then its a sidearm combined with a guided-rocket launcher. The 9mm would be used at very close range, and the rockets would be guided. Might work. He looks silly without a gun or pack though.

Posted: 2002-12-01 07:56pm
by The Dark
That was in Popular Science about three years ago, I remember using that suit in a short story I wrote for my high school literary magazine.

IIRC, that story (the PopSci) said it was a 4.6mm SMG and 4 15.2mm rockets (yeah, I too said "WTF" when I saw 4.6mm). The rockets are IR-guided and shrapnel, roughly 100 meter range with a 10 meter blast zone, and the suit's capable of altering colors to blend with the landscape, thus making it useful anywhere, but particularly in urban zones where traditional camouflage is more trouble than it's worth.

Posted: 2002-12-01 07:59pm
by CmdrWilkens
Since this is coming back (as part of PopSci's nice little military tech for the 21st century special issue) I'd jsut state plainly that a lot of the ideas that they have for the "Future Soldier" project are rather odd and don't conform with real warfighting. They are best suited to police work and MOUT situations, the program which looks like it mgiht have better results and actually improve the average infantryman's standing is the Land Warrior II program.

Posted: 2002-12-01 08:35pm
by salm
this arm mounted gun is damn cool, but rather stupid. if you accidentially put your hand up in the wrong angle you´ll shoot a hole straight through it.