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The American Tax-Payer Funds the KKK.....

Yes, you heard me right.

It is estimated that the FBI, etc. have the KKK so throroughly
infiltrated that in many areas, as much as 75% of the dues-paying
members are actually Fed informants.

Now, if the Feds have so much power over the KKK, that by withdrawing
their informant's dues, they could collapse the KKK down to nothing....why
don't they do it?

SIMPLE.

They wish to keep their funding at last year's level.

If the KKK goes away, so does a big chunk of "anti-hate" funding for
various Fed Agencies....

So the Feds keep the KKK on life support, in a endless moebius loop...

Disgusted?

That's appaling. Still, what difference would the elimination of the make on Federal funds?

I can just see RC comming in about Government corruption.

This sounds like "conspiracy theory" rumour-mongering to me. 75% of the KKK's members are undercover FBI agents? No, actually, it sounds more like a joke article from The Onion. I seriously doubt the accuracy of that number. Where did it come from? I think that such a fantastic claim requires a better reference than "it is estimated".

75%? Are you sure? Even if the KKK only had 1000 members, that would be a hell load of agents.

AdmiralKanos wrote:This sounds like "conspiracy theory" rumour-mongering to me. 75% of the KKK's members are undercover FBI agents? No, actually, it sounds more like a joke article from The Onion. I seriously doubt the accuracy of that number. Where did it come from? I think that such a fantastic claim requires a better reference than "it is estimated".

Did you not notice my point?

........as much as 75% of the dues-payingmembers are actually Fed informants.

See, Joe and Bubba don't like to pay money to dress up and ride around
in table cloths, but John, the Fed informant does......

If you don't pay the dues, you're not part of the KKK. It's like any normal club in that respect. The bosses want the money, and they want the dsues to prove that they really have (insert number) members.

MkSheppard, you ignored my request for a reference which is better than "it is estimated". Why?

AdmiralKanos wrote:MkSheppard, you ignored my request for a reference which is better than "it is estimated". Why?

Want Proof?

http://www.web.apc.org/~ara/documents/n ... nform.html

And I've heard it from people who know more than you, who are connected
with the Milita Movement. It's a never ending battle to smoke out
Fed Informants from the ranks.

COunterINTELligence PROgram anyone?

http://www.drewhendricks.freeservers.com/cointelp.htm

85% of the people on the Internet trading kiddie porno are government
agents trying to entrap people.....I'm reminded of this time when an FBI
agent sent kiddie porno to another guy, and then traced the guy's IP addy
and ended up in another FBI building, BWHAHHA

I don't see anything about "75%" on either of those links.

MKSheppard wrote:Want Proof?

http://www.web.apc.org/~ara/documents/n ... nform.html

And I've heard it from people who know more than you, who are connected
with the Milita Movement. It's a never ending battle to smoke out
Fed Informants from the ranks.

COunterINTELligence PROgram anyone?

http://www.drewhendricks.freeservers.com/cointelp.htm

I ignored your smarmy attempt to assign credibility to anonymous informants who "know more than me", I checked both links, and your 75% figure appears in neither. Once again: where did it come from?

AdmiralKanos wrote: I ignored your smarmy attempt to assign credibility to anonymous informants who "know more than me", I checked both links, and your 75% figure appears in neither. Once again: where did it come from?

The Washington Times!

(FULL ARTICLE REPRODUCED HERE)

http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3a8384576ae3.htm

Indeed, membership in the Ku Klux Klan, which is the most lucrative Dees fund-raising target, has shrunk so dramatically that the Klan would have been out of business years ago but for FBI infiltration. In some chapters the only members with paid-up dues are FBI informants.

MKSheppard wrote:(from article) "Indeed, membership in the Ku Klux Klan, which is the most lucrative Dees fund-raising target, has shrunk so dramatically that the Klan would have been out of business years ago but for FBI infiltration. In some chapters the only members with paid-up dues are FBI informants."

Still no 75% figure. All we have are is a purely qualitative statement buried in an article about an unscrupulous lawyer, and this lone paragraph does not bear the signs of a rigorous investigation. Could the FBI have paid off large percentages of the members in smaller KKK chapters? Sure, I could see that. But does this justify your 75% nationwide figure? I don't see how. Not unless the KKK is far, far smaller than I thought. Is it?

AdmiralKanos wrote: Still no 75% figure. All we have are is a purely qualitative statement buried in an article about an unscrupulous lawyer, and this lone paragraph does not bear the signs of a rigorous investigation. Could the FBI have paid off large percentages of the members in smaller KKK chapters? Sure, I could see that. But does this justify your 75% nationwide figure? I don't see how. Not unless the KKK is far, far smaller than I thought. Is it?

Oh yes. The Present Day iteration of the Klan at it's height during the 60s,
was estimated to have about 7,500 members only.

Of course, there have been several different iterations of the Klan, with the
biggest being the Klan of the 1920s, which had several MILLION members.

It seems every few decades, the Klan implodes, and then is reborn again.

Right now, the ADL says the KKK is only "a few hundred".

http://www.adl.org/learn/Ext_US/KKK.asp ... =4&item=18

Estimated size: No more than a few hundred, organized into slightly more than 100 units.

MKSheppard wrote:(from article) "Indeed, membership in the Ku Klux Klan, which is the most lucrative Dees fund-raising target, has shrunk so dramatically that the Klan would have been out of business years ago but for FBI infiltration. In some chapters the only members with paid-up dues are FBI informants."

Wait a second...this quote says, as your initial post said, that the "75%" are 'informants.' There's a big difference between an FBI informant and an FBI agent. An informant could merely be a KKK member who was convinced, coerced, or instructed to give information to the FBI. It is not necessarily a Donnie Brasco-esque undercover cop.
This doesn't really say much about any widespread FBI program of undercover agents, but more about the untrustworthiness of KKK members...the majority of them (if this information is indeed accurate) are either willing to snitch on their club, or don't have the brains to not get caught doing something dumb and then get assigned to be informants.

If the funding went away from these counterintelligence programs that are coordinating these informants, the KKK wouldn't collapse...it would become stronger because a) the informants would be free to be normal KKK members rather than informants, and b) the KKK would operate with less fear of informants.