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It's over! Thank God its over!
Posted: 2002-12-04 08:54am
by irishmick79
For the past two weeks, I've been writing a fifteen page term paper on genocide. Just handed it in last night. Wo hoo, no more disturbing psychological studies, accounts of mass terror, and sadistic prison guards to read about!
Re: It's over! Thank God its over!
Posted: 2002-12-04 09:33am
by MKSheppard
irishmick79 wrote:For the past two weeks, I've been writing a fifteen page term paper on genocide. Just handed it in last night. Wo hoo, no more disturbing psychological studies, accounts of mass terror, and sadistic prison guards to read about!
WUSS!
I literally went through the holocaust museum in DC with a coke in
one hand and watching the way cool Nazi propagada films they were
showing there, while thinking "Stupid fucktards never fought back..."
Go ask some fucktard about the Sonderkommando at Auschwitz.
The Nazis used Jews to run the crematoriums, and they could have
stopped the extermination at any point they wanted to, but the jews
running the crematoriums only revolted when they learned that
Auschwitz was closing down....and that they would then be liquidated.
So, while the fact that they burned the bodies of millions of their fellow
jews wasn't enough to make them revolt, the fact that they were to
be killed finally made them revolt, and they blew up Crematoria IV,
killing 11 SS mann.
Re: It's over! Thank God its over!
Posted: 2002-12-04 10:14am
by InnerBrat
irishmick79 wrote:For the past two weeks, I've been writing a fifteen page term paper on genocide. Just handed it in last night. Wo hoo, no more disturbing psychological studies, accounts of mass terror, and sadistic prison guards to read about!
Wanna write my essay on cannibalism? The desriptions of some of the bone assemblages are scary.
And usually only teeth freak me out.
Posted: 2002-12-04 10:25am
by Malecoda
Wow, Shep, thanks for another pointless digression that does nothing but show your ass. You're such a chickenshit weasel, it's funny to see you spout all this gun-and-war rhetoric when you can't even fight or shoot straight or even own a gun. Pussy. Fucking screaming pussy--evidence is you sitting here all day, every day, spewing your bile, when you can't even throw a baseball 20 feet. Awww, poor little disaffected Shep. You're so hard, you can walk through a Holocaust museum drinking a Coke. WOW! Please, suh, won't you let me lick your slippers?
And spirits can't be 80 proof (can they? Inside joke?). 1 proof = 2%.
Posted: 2002-12-04 10:58am
by MKSheppard
Malecoda wrote:You're so hard, you can walk through a Holocaust museum drinking a Coke. WOW! Please, suh, won't you let me lick your slippers?
Nice ad homimem attack, Hyde. Go look it up. The Sonderkommando
who ran the crematoriums were fucking JEWS, and they happily torched
the dead bodies of their own people in exchange for their lives, and they
only revolted when they were going to be killed.
I find it quite interesting that the section on resistance to the holocaust
at the museum is one teeny tiny section showing trees from a forest
and a DEWAT PPSh-41 SMG.
EDIT: It would really fucking help your case Hyde, if you would fucking STICK
to one motherfucking name, rather than change your name every
month or so..or did you forget your password?
Posted: 2002-12-04 11:19am
by irishmick79
One of the studies I was looking at was a study that examined obedience to authority figures. They set up a subject in a room with a teacher figure, who would give questions to a learner in another room. Every time the learner got a question wrong, the teacher would ask the study subject to administer what the subject thought was a brief electric shock. With each wrong answer, the voltage increased a little bit. Something like 60% of the participants were willing to go to the highest level of voltage at the prodding of the teacher, despite the protests of the learner getting zapped. Nobody expected so many subjects to be willing to go that far....
The learner was not really getting zapped, just play acting, so you know.
Posted: 2002-12-04 11:57am
by MKSheppard
irishmick79 wrote:One of the studies I was looking at was a study that examined obedience to authority figures.
Yeah, I know of those. I forget the name of the guy, but there was another
study, done by uni students in the 70s or something, in which a simulated
prison was done by paid volunteers, and it rapidly degenerated into
a pile of shit, so the researchers had to call it off out of fear for the
safety of the participants. I'll try and find a link to it when I get home
for you
Posted: 2002-12-04 12:03pm
by irishmick79
Yeah, that was another thing I took a look at. The prisoners and the guards broke down into their steryotipical roles so well and so drastically the experiment began to resemble a real prison.
Posted: 2002-12-04 12:05pm
by MKSheppard
irishmick79 wrote:Yeah, that was another thing I took a look at. The prisoners and the guards broke down into their steryotipical roles so well and so drastically the experiment began to resemble a real prison.
Yeah, human nature is such a bitch at times...at this point, I'm so jaded
by what we humans can do to other humans I don't care...
The one thing that really stuck in my craw about the Holocaust Museum
was the way they ingnored the fact that the Germans destroyed over
600+ villages in Byelorussia (now modern day Belarus) alone, along with
lots of atrocities on the Russian populace, but these were ignored in the
context of the musuem....
Posted: 2002-12-04 12:56pm
by irishmick79
I don't blame ya.
What really gets me though is people act so surprised and outraged when the dark side of human nature is put on full display. Too many people just don't understand that to be human is to be capable of not only great good, but great evil as well.
Re: It's over! Thank God its over!
Posted: 2002-12-04 03:40pm
by Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi
irishmick79 wrote:For the past two weeks, I've been writing a fifteen page term paper on genocide. Just handed it in last night. Wo hoo, no more disturbing psychological studies, accounts of mass terror, and sadistic prison guards to read about!
Arent' you going to get some grade on it? You'll have to worry for another week then.
Posted: 2002-12-04 03:50pm
by irishmick79
Yeah, I've still got to get a grade but I'm not too worried about it. The prof has given me a ton of good grades so far, and I put alot of work into writing a good paper. It was just getting it all put together that was most stressful to me.
Posted: 2002-12-04 03:51pm
by haas mark
Sounds more like mind-wrenching than anything else.
Posted: 2002-12-04 04:09pm
by irishmick79
I chose the topic, so it wasn't so bad. I was more interested in the psychology behind genocide, even though the topic can be rather depressing.
Posted: 2002-12-05 01:28am
by The Dark
Actually (as odd as this may sound) the Japanese tended to be worse than the Germans in World War II. While everyone talks about the six million Jews (and roughly six million others, grand total of twelve million) killed by the Nazis, the Japanese killed at least ten million in China alone, with a projection of 34 million being mentioned by some sources. I just realized I left the bloody book I'm using as a reference at home. It's titled Downfall, but I won't go home until Winter Hols, so it'll be at least January before I can provide full numbers. IIRC, the Japanese casualty list tops 50 million.
Posted: 2002-12-05 09:48am
by irishmick79
The Japanese weren't as systematic as the Nazis were. The Nazi genocide was part of their higher purposes, while the Japanese crimes tended to be more sporadic and uncontrolled (granted, it was still sanctioned and unpunished by the Japanese High Command).
Posted: 2002-12-05 09:49am
by Evil Sadistic Bastard
The Japanese performed more germ warfare experiments than the Germans, IIRc. Most of them took place in Machuria and other parts of CHina.
Posted: 2002-12-05 09:53am
by salm
<sarkasm>of course we all know, that ausschwitz was only a lie</sarkasm>