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Will CNN be the Army's bitch this round?

Posted: 2002-12-08 08:20pm
by Raptor 597
So will CNN be the Army's bitch this probable Gulf War? They're already doing it and how bad you'll think it'll be.

Posted: 2002-12-08 08:21pm
by Joe
LOL, are you kidding? Ratings love war.

Posted: 2002-12-08 08:24pm
by Raptor 597
Well I need some posts. And you think if the War doesn't go as promising and long will i still be covered and will they change their story?

Posted: 2002-12-08 08:27pm
by Sea Skimmer
Probably. The last war had excellent control of the media. The current one likely will as well. They'll be showing want the army wants for the most part. What spin they put on it is anoother story.

Re: Will CNN be the Army's bitch this round?

Posted: 2002-12-08 08:27pm
by The Duchess of Zeon
Captain Lennox wrote:So will CNN be the Army's bitch this probable Gulf War? They're already doing it and how bad you'll think it'll be.
CNN? The little liberal-lefties? They're not "the Army's bitch" - They're a bunch of military-hating left-wingers who don't know a single bloody thing about what they're talking about when it comes to military affairs. Of course not even Fox does for that matter, but at least they try to be unbiased.

On the plus side the programme for training reporters to keep up with the troops that we have now for this upcoming gulf war will hopefully put some respect for the military into them.

Posted: 2002-12-08 08:29pm
by The Duchess of Zeon
Sea Skimmer wrote:Probably. The last war had excellent control of the media. The current one likely will as well.
The Second Gulf War's leadership was only able to control the media by keeping them away from anything important, force-feeding them facts, and laughing behind their backs at their monumental and largely voluntary ignorance over the details of how things worked and what was going on.

Re: Will CNN be the Army's bitch this round?

Posted: 2002-12-08 08:33pm
by Andrew J.
The Duchess of Zeon wrote: On the plus side the programme for training reporters to keep up with the troops that we have now for this upcoming gulf war will hopefully put some respect for the military into them.
Heh. Reminds of the recent run of "Doonesbury" strips. But you probably don't read that, do you...[/i]

Re: Will CNN be the Army's bitch this round?

Posted: 2002-12-08 08:37pm
by The Duchess of Zeon
Andrew J. wrote:
The Duchess of Zeon wrote: On the plus side the programme for training reporters to keep up with the troops that we have now for this upcoming gulf war will hopefully put some respect for the military into them.
Heh. Reminds of the recent run of "Doonesbury" strips. But you probably don't read that, do you...[/i]
No, I don't. I do however find SomethingPositive to be humorous. I'm hardly a conservative, after all. Nor, for that matter, vulcanoid.

Re: Will CNN be the Army's bitch this round?

Posted: 2002-12-08 08:42pm
by Ted
The Duchess of Zeon wrote:
Andrew J. wrote:
The Duchess of Zeon wrote: On the plus side the programme for training reporters to keep up with the troops that we have now for this upcoming gulf war will hopefully put some respect for the military into them.
Heh. Reminds of the recent run of "Doonesbury" strips. But you probably don't read that, do you...[/i]
No, I don't. I do however find SomethingPositive to be humorous. I'm hardly a conservative, after all. Nor, for that matter, vulcanoid.
Yeah, you're a fascist.

Posted: 2002-12-08 08:46pm
by HemlockGrey
Doonesbury is great. Sums up America perfectly.

Posted: 2002-12-08 08:56pm
by weemadando
I voted Fuck No.

CNN won't be the militaries bitch. It'll be the governments. We can't risk speaking out against the holy Bush regime now can we?

Re: Will CNN be the Army's bitch this round?

Posted: 2002-12-08 08:58pm
by The Duchess of Zeon
Ted wrote:
Yeah, you're a fascist.
Is that just your intellectual cop-out way of making people look bad when you can't counter anything they say, or do you hate me?

Re: Will CNN be the Army's bitch this round?

Posted: 2002-12-08 09:00pm
by Ted
The Duchess of Zeon wrote:
Ted wrote:
Yeah, you're a fascist.
Is that just your intellectual cop-out way of making people look bad when you can't counter anything they say, or do you hate me?
No, it's the logical follow through of you saying you're not conservative, you are obviously a fascist, both though that and all your political posts.

Re: Will CNN be the Army's bitch this round?

Posted: 2002-12-08 09:02pm
by The Duchess of Zeon
Ted wrote:
No, it's the logical follow through of you saying you're not conservative, you are obviously a fascist, both though that and all your political posts.
The correct definition of my political thought would be that I'm a libertarian who believes in an interventionist foreign policy because it's necessary to sustain our economy.

Posted: 2002-12-08 09:06pm
by Joe
Ah, a Libertarian (note: big L).

Posted: 2002-12-08 09:06pm
by Raptor 597
weemadando wrote:I voted Fuck No.

CNN won't be the militaries bitch. It'll be the governments. We can't risk speaking out against the holy Bush regime now can we?
Except nowadays the Military & Bush are one in the same, or so it currently seems.

Posted: 2002-12-08 09:23pm
by The Duchess of Zeon
Durran Korr wrote:Ah, a Libertarian (note: big L).

Only if you're a Libertarian Party member, which I've not. The current leadership is a collection of loony-bins.

Posted: 2002-12-08 09:25pm
by Joe
Yeah, agreed. I like Harry Browne alot but I'm sure under his leadership the party will be taken to great new heights of irrelevancy.

Posted: 2002-12-08 09:32pm
by Wicked Pilot
Individuals in the media don't simply have to follow the Army around to get information. They can if they so desire go into Iraq on their own. They just better make sure their life insurance policies are adequate.

Posted: 2002-12-08 10:05pm
by Vympel
I just can't wait to see Fox News coverage- they'll make Goebbels blush.

Posted: 2002-12-08 10:08pm
by Evil Sadistic Bastard
It figures that alomst any discussion involving DoZ will eventually revolve around politics...

Posted: 2002-12-08 10:11pm
by The Duchess of Zeon
Evil Sadistic Bastard wrote:It figures that alomst any discussion involving DoZ will eventually revolve around politics...
Ted started it, and I'm so jaded now I've decided I'll just give it up and make everything political. Some people here need to accept that differences of opinion can exist equitably.

Posted: 2002-12-08 11:28pm
by Enlightenment
Captain Lennox wrote:Except nowadays the Military & Bush are one in the same, or so it currently seems.
At the individual level, certainly, given that many if not most US troops are Republicans. However there is considerable friction these days between the upper levels of the Pentagon and the lower levels of civilian control. Much of this friction is due to Shrubby & company screwing around with necessary military projects (DD-21/DDX, Crusader, F-22 order size, etc) but a lot is due to the Pentagon handing upwards plans to conquor Iraq with X number of troops and Rumpsfelt throwing them back with the instruction 'find a way to do it with X/2 troops.' It's not an understatement to say that there's not all that much love between the military brass and the White House at the moment.

Posted: 2002-12-09 12:52am
by TrailerParkJawa
Crusader is a debatable project. Lots of military/industrial spending is more about pork barrel than giving troops equipment they need. Besides, we CANT pay for all of this without deficit spending so something has to go.