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Old news? For those who hadn't heard or didn't know:

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This having been the US position since the Soviets got the bomb...
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:roll: Idiot Bush... Lets just all nuke Iraq to kingdom come, and leave nothing but a radioactive wasteland!

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Exonerate wrote::roll: Idiot Bush... Lets just all nuke Iraq to kingdom come, and leave nothing but a radioactive wasteland!
How is this idiotic, or specifically pertaining to Bush? Like Sea Skimmer says, this has been the US position for a long time. This isn't changing anything.
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Damaramu wrote:Old news? For those who hadn't heard or didn't know:

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The standard position. Deployment of weapons of mass destruction against us must be met by the maximum retaliatory response. This position is the only way to truly attempt and prevent such a deployment.
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The Duchess of Zeon wrote:
Damaramu wrote:Old news? For those who hadn't heard or didn't know:

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The standard position. Deployment of weapons of mass destruction against us must be met by the maximum retaliatory response. This position is the only way to truly attempt and prevent such a deployment.
It however also assumes the threat is in a rational mindset. Something that is not always the case.
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Wouldn't an airburst of a few nuclear weapons be enough to send them back into the 1700's for a few years? Then we can just say, "Surrender, or your cities are next."
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Sea Skimmer wrote:
The Duchess of Zeon wrote:
Damaramu wrote:Old news? For those who hadn't heard or didn't know:

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The standard position. Deployment of weapons of mass destruction against us must be met by the maximum retaliatory response. This position is the only way to truly attempt and prevent such a deployment.
It however also assumes the threat is in a rational mindset. Something that is not always the case.
Methinks we three know too much now.
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Alferd Packer wrote:Wouldn't an airburst of a few nuclear weapons be enough to send them back into the 1700's for a few years? Then we can just say, "Surrender, or your cities are next."
A lot of military equipment and a lot of civilian stuff as well is EMP shielded.
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phongn wrote:
Sea Skimmer wrote:
The Duchess of Zeon wrote: The standard position. Deployment of weapons of mass destruction against us must be met by the maximum retaliatory response. This position is the only way to truly attempt and prevent such a deployment.
It however also assumes the threat is in a rational mindset. Something that is not always the case.
Methinks we three know too much now.
Ignorance is infinite, knowledge is not. You can never know too much.
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Sea Skimmer wrote:
Alferd Packer wrote:Wouldn't an airburst of a few nuclear weapons be enough to send them back into the 1700's for a few years? Then we can just say, "Surrender, or your cities are next."
A lot of military equipment and a lot of civilian stuff as well is EMP shielded.
Most cars aren't. Police departments are think about using low-power EMPs to stop high-speed pursuits. You fry the alternator, starter solenoid, and bada bing, the car doesn't run and won't start until you change out the parts. I mean, if you can fry every electric starter in the country, that sends a pretty powerful message.
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Alferd Packer wrote: Most cars aren't. Police departments are think about using low-power EMPs to stop high-speed pursuits. You fry the alternator, starter solenoid, and bada bing, the car doesn't run and won't start until you change out the parts. I mean, if you can fry every electric starter in the country, that sends a pretty powerful message.
In the USA, yes. In Iraq it might not be noticed.
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Alferd Packer wrote: Most cars aren't. Police departments are think about using low-power EMPs to stop high-speed pursuits. You fry the alternator, starter solenoid, and bada bing, the car doesn't run and won't start until you change out the parts. I mean, if you can fry every electric starter in the country, that sends a pretty powerful message.
In the USA, yes. In Iraq it might not be noticed.
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Sea Skimmer wrote:
phongn wrote:
Sea Skimmer wrote: It however also assumes the threat is in a rational mindset. Something that is not always the case.
Methinks we three know too much now.
Ignorance is infinite, knowledge is not. You can never know too much.
True. The question becomes, who is rational and who is not?
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Alferd Packer wrote:Wouldn't an airburst of a few nuclear weapons be enough to send them back into the 1700's for a few years? Then we can just say, "Surrender, or your cities are next."
One for one exchange against a millitary unit is one thing, but genocide against unarmed civvies is quite another.
Besides, I think that Saddam only wants WMD's for regional objectives. I get the feeling, from his efforts over the lst 12 years, that he would not try to challenge the US over WMD's because he knows that he cannot deter US action against him. Watch him do as he has always done over the last 10 years, squirm and twist out of direct confrontaion in the feild with the US et al.
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