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Not MS bashing, just stating facts.

(Coredistro+apps, RedHat, going to finish building system with LFS packages, since coredistro is incomplete)Linux:
What is the point of package management? Why not just make an install/uninstall shell script, that checks for the neccesarry dependencies and possibly downloads them?

WHY DID RPM have to become the LSB standard? I HATE RPM! Lots of proprietry software won't run on LFS/Core. For example ATI drivers only come in RPM form. Sure you can convert with alien but it's not the same.

Developers use the cutting edge tools and libraries, forcing an upgrade every month. On a 26.6k connection that is painful, esp. LFS, which you have to download everything immediately.

Weak gui (then again that is because I have a max 800x600 res )

Pathetic hardware compatibility (improving)

Stupid hierarchy standard- makes uninstalling difficult without script or RPM, due to files spread everywhere. Why not just place the files in a seperate folder and create symlinks?

OEM Windows 98:
Crashes (Duh!, although possibly because flaky hardware with bent possibly shortcircuited PCI pins. Then again RH linux doesn't crash on the same machine. Uninstalled RH Linux because of low disk space and RPM hell)
No journeling filesystem
No command line completion (where can I find a good replacement for command.com?)
No longer supported much
Dies after loading too many apps
Clogged registries slow down machine
No advanced system/text manupulation cmdline utils
Weak command line
Difficult scripting (I like bash scripting better than vbs)
No programming tools
No symlinks
No hardlinks

"Aquired" Win2k:
Same as above, minus:
Weak command line
Journeling filesystem (NTFS is decent enough)
Hard links
Crashing (still crashes due to Windows's poor performance slow flaky hardware, and inability to easily kill GUI and restart GUI without rebooting, since the inferior integrated GUI/Kernel design- as explained on Wong's page)


"Aquired" Corporate WinXP:
Same as 2k, plus:
Slow and crashes(then again I'm using P266 which is BELOW THE MINIMUM REQs, which is pretty stupid so why am I complaining? Still XP is slower than Win2k even on a fast comp. However it still crashes at school, on a fast computer)
Icons look horrible
Spyware
(Not applicable here) WPA

MS-DOS:
Weak command line
Been castrated since Windows 95
Otherwise stable, but that's because it don't do much
No other gripes because it does not do too much.
Anyone tried FreeDOS? Can you use it to replace MS-DOS 7?

School NT:
The conclusion is that Linux and Win2k are the best. Unfortunately there is no opengl graphics support for the i740, (but there is for DX, anyone smell something fishy. Of course there is no support for acceleration whatsoever for i740 under linux either) . I'm using Win98 on my primary computer now, until my sister gets her own, then I'll duel boot. My linux P120 machine needs to have all the neccesary tools downloaded. Otherwise it's only good for text only browsing using links or lynx.

[EDIT] Removed sarcasm

Comments please

If you like the linux command line you might want to check out http://www.cygwin.org which is basically a port of all that good stuff to windows.

Pu-239 wrote:Not MS bashing, just stating facts.
OEM Windows 98:
Crashes (Duh!, although possibly because flaky hardware with bent possibly shortcircuited PCI pins. Then again RH linux doesn't crash on the same machine. Uninstalled RH Linux because of low disk space and RPM hell)
No journeling filesystem
No command line completion (where can I find a good replacement for command.com?)
No longer supported much
Dies after loading too many apps
Clogged registries slow down machine
No advanced system/text manupulation cmdline utils
Weak command line
Difficult scripting (I like bash scripting better than vbs)
No programming tools
No symlinks
No hardlinks

"Aquired" Win2k:
Same as above, minus:
Weak command line
Journeling filesystem (NTFS is decent enough)
Hard links
Crashing (still crashes due to Windows's poor performance slow flaky hardware, and inability to easily kill GUI and restart GUI without rebooting, since the inferior integrated GUI/Kernel design- as explained on Wong's page)

Windows 2000's command interpreter has command line completion. It needs to be activated via a registry key (or grab TweakUI). AFAIK it's still well-supported and I've never had a problem with it being bogged down by many applications?

As for Windows XP, if you turn off the theming service it gets a nice speed boost there. I do find it more stable than W2K, though.

I got a win32 zsh port, but I can't figure out how to make it execute native dos programs. It'll only execute windows ports of unix progs. I also have cygwin somewhere on a backup cd for the win32 Freeciv port. It's not a full install though, just the bare utils needed to run an X server. Can you mount the C: drive so that you can browse outside the cygwin directory, and can you mount linux partitions?

Pu-239 wrote:I got a win32 zsh port, but I can't figure out how to make it execute native dos programs. It'll only execute windows ports of unix progs. I also have cygwin somewhere on a backup cd for the win32 Freeciv port. It's not a full install though, just the bare utils needed to run an X server. Can you mount the C: drive so that you can browse outside the cygwin directory, and can you mount linux partitions?

Your partitions are mapped to /cygdrive/[letter]

That's rather strange that it won't execute non-cygwin apps; I've done it before...

I don't know if you can mount Linux partitions, you may need another tool to do that.