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Anaconda vs..

Posted: 2006-03-12 03:33pm
by Lukedanieljames
To start, and I will make the font larger cause I'm sure someone is going to ask, the snake isn't in the water or near water unless i specify

Its a big Anaconda, say 30feet long and close to 500-600lbs.

Ok, So both are looking at each other, both want to kill each other, here are the matchups,

Anaconda vs Kodiak Bear
Anaconda vs Walrus (in water, then out of water) *pretend the water temperature is ok for both animals*

Anaconda vs White Rhino
Anaconda vs African Elephant
Anaconda vs Tiger
Anaconda vs Great White (obviously in water)

So those are the matchups, opinions anyone?

Posted: 2006-03-12 03:37pm
by Elheru Aran
Bear and tiger will rip it up before it can coil around them. It has to get up the elephant's legs; it's asking for a stomping there. Walrus can probably puncture it with its tusks. Rhino is iffy, but probably another stompage candidate. Great White is actually possible, but the fucker's fast and can bite its head off.

Posted: 2006-03-12 03:58pm
by Surlethe
If the snake is out of water -- its natural habitat -- it's at a huge disadvantage; there's a reason anacondas live in and around water. One possibility is to let the snake start out in a tree; that might help level the playing field. However, anacondas are ambush hunters; removing that advantage alone could quite possibly lead to defeat in every scenario.

Posted: 2006-03-12 04:02pm
by Sriad
Yep; all of those animals have lots of sharp things all over them that could be used to rip up the snake, except for Rhino/elephant, and by then size is a crushing (ahem) advantage for them. A 30 foot anaconda would only be able to coil around an adult elephant about twice.

Walrus and Great White are the only ones where I can see victory for the anaconda as feasible.

Posted: 2006-03-12 04:10pm
by skotos
Are animals with gills even vulnerable to constriction? I suppose even if the answer is no then it might still have a shot at the shark if it can get the shark to stop swimming - but who will suffocate first, the air breathing anaconda or the motionless shark?

Posted: 2006-03-12 04:11pm
by Gil Hamilton
Anacondas don't work that way. They don't chase prey; they ambush it, and they don't go after big game like that. They don't tend to eat things much bigger than sheep and wild pigs, though I suppose one that big might be partial to a cow.

Most of the animals you've got listed are far too big and fast a hassle for the anaconda to hunt. They generally go for months between kills and even over a year. Anacondas need to catch and constrict their prey, which takes alot of work. Something better not dangerous will come along eventually, so in virtually all those cases, the animals will ignore each other and move on. Or in the last scenario, the snake drowns, because anacondas like in the shallows of rivers, not in the ocean where you find sharks.

Posted: 2006-03-12 04:19pm
by Kamakazie Sith
Sriad wrote: Walrus and Great White are the only ones where I can see victory for the anaconda as feasible.
Given the natural behavior of the Great White and an Anaconda I'd give it to the White easily. Unless you specifically give the Anaconda some sort of first strike attack it's going to lose, and even then I wonder what the White's natural response would be? Go deep?

Great White's hunt from below looking up. Once they spot their prey they make a mad dash to the surface from behind and at a 45 degree angle from their intended victim. The snake will never see it coming.

Posted: 2006-03-12 04:20pm
by Lukedanieljames
skotos wrote:Are animals with gills even vulnerable to constriction? I suppose even if the answer is no then it might still have a shot at the shark if it can get the shark to stop swimming - but who will suffocate first, the air breathing anaconda or the motionless shark?
actually snakes that coil around their prey don't sufficate them, they kill them because of cardiac arrest. Its not suffication, its constriction, as in constricting the blood

Posted: 2006-03-12 04:20pm
by Surlethe
skotos wrote:Are animals with gills even vulnerable to constriction? I suppose even if the answer is no then it might still have a shot at the shark if it can get the shark to stop swimming - but who will suffocate first, the air breathing anaconda or the motionless shark?
Presumably, constriction also crushes internal organs.

Posted: 2006-03-12 04:32pm
by Lukedanieljames
Surlethe wrote:
skotos wrote:Are animals with gills even vulnerable to constriction? I suppose even if the answer is no then it might still have a shot at the shark if it can get the shark to stop swimming - but who will suffocate first, the air breathing anaconda or the motionless shark?
Presumably, constriction also crushes internal organs.
yes and rib cages

Posted: 2006-03-12 05:18pm
by Admiral Valdemar
Kamakazie Sith wrote:
Given the natural behavior of the Great White and an Anaconda I'd give it to the White easily. Unless you specifically give the Anaconda some sort of first strike attack it's going to lose, and even then I wonder what the White's natural response would be? Go deep?

Great White's hunt from below looking up. Once they spot their prey they make a mad dash to the surface from behind and at a 45 degree angle from their intended victim. The snake will never see it coming.
The footage of such a sneak attack slowed 40x for Planet Earth shows it would probably rip the snake in half more than anything. Only Orcas toy with Great Whites.

Anyone remember the pictures of an anaconda that tried to get a crocodile? The croc suffocated and the snake burst.

Posted: 2006-03-12 05:22pm
by wolveraptor
Are you by any chance from those discovery.com forums that talk about that show "Animal Face-off" or whatever?

hmmm

Posted: 2006-03-12 09:35pm
by squidman001
anacondas dont do trees, reticulated pythons do.

Posted: 2006-03-13 08:20am
by Shroom Man 777
Pffft. Anacondas are wank.