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American national anthem

Posted: 2006-06-12 12:00pm
by Ubiquitous
Just a quick question, when did placing ones hand on their heart become popular during the anthem? And what are your opinions on this practice?

Posted: 2006-06-12 12:28pm
by Faram
For some strange reason people place their hand on the left side of the chest, when the heart is in the middle, under the strongest part of the ribcage.

When it became popular, no idea.

Posted: 2006-06-12 12:48pm
by The Yosemite Bear
I don't know,

still think woody gutherie would make for a better national anthem, then again ours is nothing compared to say russias or englands....


got to go get my laundry though...

Re: American national anthem

Posted: 2006-06-12 01:52pm
by The Dark
Ubiquitous wrote:Just a quick question, when did placing ones hand on their heart become popular during the anthem?
Around World War II. The original pose during the Pledge and anthem was holding one's hand toward the flag, which bore a strong resemblance to the Sieg Heil salute of Nazi Germany.

Re: American national anthem

Posted: 2006-06-12 01:59pm
by Lord Woodlouse
The Dark wrote:
Ubiquitous wrote:Just a quick question, when did placing ones hand on their heart become popular during the anthem?
Around World War II. The original pose during the Pledge and anthem was holding one's hand toward the flag, which bore a strong resemblance to the Sieg Heil salute of Nazi Germany.
Ironically enough it seems both versions derive from the Roman salute.

Posted: 2006-06-12 02:14pm
by Ubiquitous
The Yosemite Bear wrote:I don't know,

still think woody gutherie would make for a better national anthem, then again ours is nothing compared to say russias or englands....


got to go get my laundry though...
I personally think that Star Spangled Banner is far superior to God Save the Queen. Of course, Hymne of the Soviet Union will never, ever be beat in the coolness stakes - it's a great shame Russia did not make it to the World Cup this year so we could hear it before every game!

I too find the hand on chest gesture a little too similar to sieg heil for comfort.

Posted: 2006-06-12 02:18pm
by Lord Woodlouse
God Save the Queen is good when you bring the drums out...

Re: American national anthem

Posted: 2006-06-12 02:47pm
by Kathryn
Ubiquitous wrote:Just a quick question, when did placing ones hand on their heart become popular during the anthem? And what are your opinions on this practice?
^_^ Since everyone is incredibly dying for my opinion...I think it's silly. I think I'm going to move to Canda. I hate this president. His eyebrows are like---guns without the pitchfork.

Re: American national anthem

Posted: 2006-06-12 04:12pm
by Zed Snardbody
The Dark wrote:
Ubiquitous wrote:Just a quick question, when did placing ones hand on their heart become popular during the anthem?
Around World War II. The original pose during the Pledge and anthem was holding one's hand toward the flag, which bore a strong resemblance to the Sieg Heil salute of Nazi Germany.
I disagree. I have a US army training manual from 1923. In the etiquette section describing the use of the flag an what not there are a number of illustrations of uniformed persons and civilians, some with hats, some without showing that the correct usage is a hand, or hand holding your hat over your heart.

Re: American national anthem

Posted: 2006-06-12 04:21pm
by Adrian Laguna
The Dark wrote:Around World War II. The original pose during the Pledge and anthem was holding one's hand toward the flag, which bore a strong resemblance to the Sieg Heil salute of Nazi Germany.
While the Roman Salute was still in use in the eve fo the Second World War, it was already an almost dead practice. It had already fallen way out of favor by the late 1800s or early 1900s.

Re: American national anthem

Posted: 2006-06-12 04:37pm
by jegs2
Ubiquitous wrote:Just a quick question, when did placing ones hand on their heart become popular during the anthem? And what are your opinions on this practice?
If I'm in civilian clothes, I'll stand at attention and face the flag (or the source of the music if no flag is visible). While in uniform, I salute.

Re: American national anthem

Posted: 2006-06-12 04:54pm
by The Dark
Zed Snardbody wrote:
The Dark wrote:
Ubiquitous wrote:Just a quick question, when did placing ones hand on their heart become popular during the anthem?
Around World War II. The original pose during the Pledge and anthem was holding one's hand toward the flag, which bore a strong resemblance to the Sieg Heil salute of Nazi Germany.
I disagree. I have a US army training manual from 1923. In the etiquette section describing the use of the flag an what not there are a number of illustrations of uniformed persons and civilians, some with hats, some without showing that the correct usage is a hand, or hand holding your hat over your heart.
Colonel Balch's salute (arm held out, palm upward) was first used on June 14th, 1889. It was slightly altered by Francis Bellamy as the "Roman" salute on October 12, 1892.
The Youth's Companion, 1892 wrote:At a signal from the Principal the pupils, in ordered ranks, hands to the side, face the Flag. Another signal is given; every pupil gives the flag the military salute -- right hand lifted, palm downward, to a line with the forehead and close to it. Standing thus, all repeat together, slowly, β€œI pledge allegiance to my Flag and the Republic for which it stands; one Nation indivisible, with Liberty and Justice for all.” At the words, β€œto my Flag,” the right hand is extended gracefully, palm upward, toward the Flag, and remains in this gesture till the end of the affirmation; whereupon all hands immediately drop to the side.
On June 22, 1942, Congress included the Pledge in the U.S. Flag Code. Six months later, they altered the salute to hand-over-the-heart.

Re: American national anthem

Posted: 2006-06-12 05:49pm
by Jason von Evil
The Dark wrote:
Ubiquitous wrote:Just a quick question, when did placing ones hand on their heart become popular during the anthem?
Around World War II. The original pose during the Pledge and anthem was holding one's hand toward the flag, which bore a strong resemblance to the Sieg Heil salute of Nazi Germany.
Goddamn, I didn't think many people knew that. Dark gets himself a cookie. :D

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