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Piracy (don't worry)

Posted: 2003-01-02 07:05am
by Robert Treder
I'm not going to ask anybody to admit to anything, but I was just wondering why it is so many of you seem to be afraid of admitting to electronic piracy.

In all seriousness, I'd like to be clued in on the existance of any organizations which can prosecute someone based on their comments in a web-board. Does it violate Mike's TOS?
I know that I can walk up to a cop and tell him "I smoke pot all the damned time!" and he can't do jack shit about it. Why is it different on the internet?

Serious answers appreciated.

Posted: 2003-01-02 08:05am
by Crazy_Vasey
As a rule they go after distributors not users anyway.

Posted: 2003-01-02 10:26am
by kojikun
People are hypocritical whores, thats why. I pirate, so what? I don't have the money to buy the shit so I'm not detracting from company profits. Oh, sure, some my say "If you can't pay for it then you cant have it" but those people also tend to say "God said so" quite frequently.

Posted: 2003-01-02 10:28am
by kojikun
Carlin might say.. "Fuck you, cock sucker. I'll consider not pirating when you get between my legs and SUCK MY DICK"

Posted: 2003-01-02 11:24am
by aerius
I'm not going to say anything about piracy here for the same reason I'm not going to tell you about all the laws I may or may not have broken so far in my life. People don't need to know, and I don't want the info floating around on a message board where anyone can see it. In hindsight it would be far better if I just didn't post at all in that thread, but oh well.

Posted: 2003-01-02 11:54am
by Specialist
They fear the FBI might be tapping their line...

Posted: 2003-01-02 06:51pm
by Robert Treder
So, basically, just as I expected, there's really no reason to fear claiming to be a pirate on a message board. Even if I were to divulge all of the specific acts of piracy that I've committed, nobody could do anything about it.
I've been looking around, and I can't find any reason why it would violate Mike's TOS on the board, either. If it does, please tell me.

Posted: 2003-01-02 07:02pm
by Durandal
It shouldn't violate Mike's Terms of Service as long as no one swaps pirating tips, like where to go and stuff like that.

Posted: 2003-01-02 07:05pm
by ArmorPierce
Someone could decide to stir up shit and start getting into contact with as many people as they can so that they could make the board shut down because the people on the board are discussing doing illeagle things.

People has tried to do that to other boards (and post illeagle things like child porn) but I don't know if it was ever actually effective on any boards.

Re: Piracy (don't worry)

Posted: 2003-01-02 09:00pm
by Johonebesus
Robert Treder wrote: I know that I can walk up to a cop and tell him "I smoke pot all the damned time!" and he can't do jack shit about it. Why is it different on the internet?
Here's the problem with that analogy. If you stand on the corner and tell people, "I take my neighbor's newspapers," the police might not be able to do anything, but the neighbor can press criminal charges for theft by taking or bring civil suit. Likewise, if I were to say that I have downloaded a few Gb's of music or movies (completely hypothetically, of course), I might not have much reason to fear the authorities (yet), but if the entertainment industry decides to get particularly nasty, they might be able to cause me some real problems. Even if it's a bit paranoid, I'd rather be safe than sorry.

Posted: 2003-01-02 09:50pm
by Durandal
More on Johonebesus' comments. Basically, if you run up to a police officer and inform him that you smoke marijuana, he cannot arrest you right then and there. True. You've broken no laws.

BUT

He could easily obtain a court order to keep you under surveillance. See the problem with people openly admitting that they pirate software?

Posted: 2003-01-03 03:05am
by Slartibartfast
Haha, I think it's better to pirate hardware...

Posted: 2003-01-03 12:48pm
by Isil`Zha
Spin: arrrr, pirates of the south west
Spin: thar be large pipes o'bandwith near ye'ol univarsety.
Pirate: yearg, ye may be an ta somethan thar.
Spin: what say ye we pull yonder USB hard disk longside yonder NMSU puter and begin tha lutin and plunderin.
Pirate: yearg. The master done gaved me a testin machine with a grand ol CDR.
Pirate: Avast!
Pirate: MP3s off the starboard bow!
Spin: stere clear of ye porn pop ups rollin in from tha east.
Pirate: I have mah trusty Opera browsa to help me fend em off.
Spin: encrypt the data holds, batton down thar security patches, argh thar be spyware abound.


:mrgreen:

(taken from bash.org)

Posted: 2003-01-03 03:30pm
by Lord Pounder
The reason so many ppl use pirated software is for the same reason ppl use MP3's now. I refuse to buff up some fat capitalist bastards bank ballance. I do buy original games, PC games are reasonably priced considering the R'n'D going into creating some of these games. Play Dungeon Siege and tell me thats not worth £30.

business type software is another case. No way is windows worth the price they charge for it. They rule should be that home users get a discount but businesses pay full wack.

Posted: 2003-01-03 08:27pm
by Pu-239
Well most people already implied.......

Posted: 2003-01-03 08:31pm
by Shinova
I can understand graphics programs and programming languages being expensive since they can be used to earn you money.


Also, I suggest everyone not do as much file sharing in college as they do outside college. I hear that colleges filter their traffic and look for those kinds of things. Expulsion can be nasty.