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I Need Advice....
Posted: 2003-01-05 03:27pm
by Jadeite
Ok, this is a long story with a bit of background to it. I really like one of my friends, but I am probably never going to have a relationship with her. She considers me a good friend of hers, and comes over alot. The other week before school ended, she accidentaly left an art notebook at my house. I found it, and decided to return it to her as soon as school began again. Today, I had a friend over and we were talking about how people are always forgetting and leaving stuff at my house, and I went and got her notebook. Him and I started looking at all the stuff shed drawn, and came across a journal in the back. It had entrys about what she thought of all her friends. Mine was extremely negative. She says that im creepy, a complete nerd, and that im probably going to turn into a dirty old man or rapist later in life. She all but says that im a pyschopath. Right now I feel like iv been backstabbed. She says that im her friend and all, but then writes that! Ill type it here later if any of you want. At first I felt really depressed, but right now im devoid of any emotion. What do you guys think I should do?
Posted: 2003-01-05 03:31pm
by Durandal
Get over her and move on. Tell her to piss off, whatever. Those kinds of people aren't your friends.
Posted: 2003-01-05 03:37pm
by Crazy_Vasey
That is why you never, ever read peoples diaries. She quite possibly wrote that while she was depressed or pissed off at you or something. Don't tell me you've never had serious negative thoughts about your friends at some point.
Re: I Need Advice....
Posted: 2003-01-05 03:44pm
by Kelly Antilles
Jadeite wrote: Right now I feel like iv been backstabbed.
You feel like YOU'VE been backstabbed? Think about her. YOU opened her personal property. You have backstabbed her by reading her personal diary.
Take a step back and realize exactly what you've done.
Posted: 2003-01-05 03:47pm
by Jadeite
You feel like YOU'VE been backstabbed? Think about her. YOU opened her personal property. You have backstabbed her by reading her personal diary.
Take a step back and realize exactly what you've done.
I do realize that I violated her privacy. But I do think I have a right to know what she really thinks about me. This is a no-win situation.
Posted: 2003-01-05 03:57pm
by jaeger115
Tell her to fuck off, and get a good job and wait for ten years. After ten years go back to her and show her what you are doing for your job. Likeily, you'll have a good salary and a good home and a good car and you can see that face on your "friend"'s head
Seriously, girls tend to have worse mood swings than guys. Wait a bit and see how she turns out
Posted: 2003-01-05 04:05pm
by Ted
One way is to just plainly go out and tell her about the diary thing. If she pretends it dont exist, it's most likely true.
If she tries to play it down, meh, however you take it.
Posted: 2003-01-05 04:15pm
by Exonerate
Hmf. I have a friend who was in a situation very similar to this... The only thing you can do to improve your standing with her is to talking with her, try to make her understand...
Posted: 2003-01-05 04:31pm
by Sir Sirius
Don't get angry, get even!!!
If you still have the note book, rip the page about you out of the book and start passing the book around (works well, assuming that you are not the only one given an negative "evaluation").
Posted: 2003-01-05 04:33pm
by jaeger115
Don't get angry, get even!!!
If you still have the note book, rip the page about you out of the book and start passing the book around (works well, assuming that you are not the only one given an negative "evaluation").
Perfect!
That'll teach her not to mess with
you!
Posted: 2003-01-05 04:35pm
by Jadeite
If you still have the note book, rip the page about you out of the book and start passing the book around (works well, assuming that you are not the only one given an negative "evaluation").
Not my style, im more subtle. Im thinking more of giving the art notebook it was in back to her tomorrow, and making a comment on her artwork, maybe add a wink.
Posted: 2003-01-05 04:41pm
by Enforcer Talen
Crazy_Vasey wrote:That is why you never, ever read peoples diaries. She quite possibly wrote that while she was depressed or pissed off at you or something. Don't tell me you've never had serious negative thoughts about your friends at some point.
that's why you never, ever write a diary. everything i think of an individual person is in my head.
Posted: 2003-01-05 04:43pm
by Enforcer Talen
Durandal wrote:Get over her and move on. Tell her to piss off, whatever. Those kinds of people aren't your friends.
yeah, that's what I would do. . . but the 'she wrote while depressed' is a possibility too. . .
Posted: 2003-01-05 04:48pm
by Jadeite
yeah, that's what I would do. . . but the 'she wrote while depressed' is a possibility too. . .
Well, my friend read his entry, which was written the next day, and it was quite positive.
Posted: 2003-01-05 04:49pm
by Enforcer Talen
I'd drop her then.
Posted: 2003-01-05 04:51pm
by Kelly Antilles
You kids are ruthless. Come on, he shouldn't have read it in the first place. Nobody respects anyone's privacy anymore.
Posted: 2003-01-05 04:53pm
by Jadeite
I'd drop her then.
I dont think I like her anymore. I would still like to keep her around as a friend, as she can be pretty fun.
Posted: 2003-01-05 04:53pm
by HemlockGrey
All your friends are talking to you behind your back...
Kill them.
Posted: 2003-01-05 04:55pm
by The Yosemite Bear
Ahh Espionage, Betrayal, deception, anger
Thanks for reminding me why I am glad I am no longer a kid anymore.
Posted: 2003-01-05 04:55pm
by Alex Moon
One thing I don't quite understand, was this a sketchbook for a class, or a personal diary?
Either way, you should return it to her at once.
Posted: 2003-01-05 04:57pm
by Zaia
Ok, first of all, I completely agree with Kelly. You don't have any right to feel backstabbed when you realized it was a journal you were reading and didn't shut it immediately. Any boo-hooing you have to do is going to be lost upon me. Those sorts of words are not for the public, and you stabbed her in the back by continuing to read after you realized what it was you were reading.
Secondly, most people only write in journals 1) when they are very upset and 2) about people they care about. I have no idea how well you know this young woman, but the only people at which I lash out in my journals are the people who mean the most to me. I have said MUCH worse about friends who are like family to me; it all depends on the situation in which those words were written and in NO WAY can you assume that those are her true feelings about you.
Lastly, the only way to figure out what was going through her head when she wrote that entry is to talk to her about what you did, apologize for looking through her personal belongings (I would say she would have to be pretty close with you if she would have had her journal there to begin with; I practically keep mine under lock and key), and see if you can salvage your friendship.
If you decide to get even, you've done a far worse thing to her than she ever did to you, so don't try to fool yourself into thinking that you would be justified. If you decide to just let it pass, you're knowingly throwing her friendship out the window. You will end up blaming her for her words, even though you won't know under what circumstance she wrote them, and it will deteriorate whatever's left of your relationship. The only solution is to anty up and talk to her.
Posted: 2003-01-05 05:04pm
by Jadeite
One thing I don't quite understand, was this a sketchbook for a class, or a personal diary?
Either way, you should return it to her at once.
Sketchbook for class, altho apparently she turn the last couple pages into a semi-diary.
And yes, Im returning it to her first chance I get.
Posted: 2003-01-05 05:06pm
by ArmorPierce
So what if he read her diary? That's what she really thinks about him. What I would do is don't mention the diary and just forget about her. She's just a stupid bitch that doesn't think highly of you.
Posted: 2003-01-05 05:08pm
by 2000AD
"Accidently" leave a sketch book / diary / etc. at her house with something like, "I looked through her sketch book and found she had a diary in it. After reading what she said about me i feel betrayed, etc. etc." Make sure you note down that you just wanted to look at her artworkand you DIDN'T want to root through her private life.
That way she feels guilty.
Posted: 2003-01-05 05:11pm
by Alex Moon
Jadeite wrote:One thing I don't quite understand, was this a sketchbook for a class, or a personal diary?
Either way, you should return it to her at once.
Sketchbook for class, altho apparently she turn the last couple pages into a semi-diary.
And yes, Im returning it to her first chance I get.
You need to tell her you read what she wrote when you return it to her. You need to find out exactly what she thinks of you. If she is your friend, she will be honest about how she feels.
Personally, I think if she were truly your friend, she would have told you to your face what she thought. Either she's hiding it because she doesn't want you to know how she really feels, or she wrote it to vent frustrations over something else, in which case as her friend I think she should be able to turn to you, at least for someone to talk to.