The Big One

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2004-09-27 09:58pm

phongn wrote:And so ends Crusade.

*slaps Phong*

There's STILL the epilogue!

They always mindfuck ya

Mopeyennuui · Post by **Mopeyennuui** » 2004-09-30 08:25am

Falling to his knees and kissing the tarmac always seemed like a good idea to Major Lothar von Schudak after a flight in the Go-229. He remembered his first mount, the Me-109G as being a Dobermann Pinscher, a lean, fast killer that could twist and turn in a dogfight. His Ta-152 had been a Rottweiler, massive and powerful that would just crash through whatever got in its way. Von Schudak wasn’t sure what sort of dog the Go-229 represented, but whatever it was, it had rabies. The Gotha flying wing fighter was vicious, untrustworthy, unreliable, so directionally unstable it was a lousy gun platform and when it got into trouble, it broke up so fast that the pilot never stood a chance. Sometimes the Fledermaus would do that without even getting into trouble.

Ok, I'm a iijit. forget this post...

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2004-09-30 09:15am

Zerg Goddess wrote:The Go-229 was the best they could produce for a flying wing?

Yes. Everyone had serious trouble with flying wings until the advent of computer flight stabilization and these aircraft take serious development time. Furthermore, a great deal of German resources are dedicated to countering the Russian and American armies on the Eastern Front.

Hmm.. he really must love wanking in hatred of Germany when unsure about something.

Um, what are you talking about?

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2004-09-30 09:33am

Zerg Goddess wrote: Hmm.. he really must love wanking in hatred of Germany when unsure about something. If that's common, it's about as bad as something I found on a historical NG.. I'll go find it. Or the successor to Captain's Quarters.. hehe...

No, the correct answer is you are an utter moron who cannot comprehend the story.

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2004-10-03 10:58pm

Crusade Epilogue

Temjin · Post by **Temjin** » 2004-10-03 11:02pm

MKSheppard wrote:Crusade Epilogue

Shouldn't that be a link to this?

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2004-10-03 11:12pm

Not on my normal computer, because I'm wiping the HDD on that one.

Crayz9000 · Post by **Crayz9000** » 2004-10-04 03:03am

JPaulMartin wrote:OK, under what circumstances would American bombers bomb an American city?

I'm thinking Ber(ser)keley, if they get too far out of hand.

CaptainChewbacca · Post by **CaptainChewbacca** » 2004-10-04 04:37am

Anyway, I can’t really think of a situation where I would order our bombers to take down an American city.”

“I can.” The Seer said idly. “Several in fact.”

HA!

And they ARE demons! But why?

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2004-10-07 01:40pm

TBOverse US OOB 1972

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2004-10-07 05:22pm

I'd almost want to see someone be foolish enough to attempt an air-raid on North America just to see the fireworks...

CaptainChewbacca · Post by **CaptainChewbacca** » 2004-10-07 06:32pm

phongn wrote:I'd almost want to see someone be foolish enough to attempt an air-raid on North America just to see the fireworks...

No one could. My question is, what's next?

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2004-10-07 08:21pm

CaptainChewbacca wrote:No one could. My question is, what's next?

A couple space-related stories, IIRC.

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2004-10-08 12:10pm

TBOverse US OOB circa 1986

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2004-10-08 04:28pm

TBOverse Bomber OOB

acesand8s · Post by **acesand8s** » 2004-10-08 10:42pm

Just finished the Big One now and will move on to the next one (The Great Game, right?).

One question occurred to me while I was reading it though. I thought the B-36 had some severe production flaws and the first operational wings weren't ready until 1951. How was the US able to overcome these issues and have such a large force available by '47? (I'd ask the question at the other site, but the story threads for The Big One appear to be locked.)

Grand Admiral Thrawn · Post by **Grand Admiral Thrawn** » 2004-10-08 10:46pm

B-36 devolpment was increased following the fall of Britain (B-24 was cancelled for example).

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2004-10-08 10:47pm

acesand8s wrote:One question occurred to me while I was reading it though. I thought the B-36 had some severe production flaws and the first operational wings weren't ready until 1951. How was the US able to overcome these issues and have such a large force available by '47? (I'd ask the question at the other site, but the story threads for The Big One appear to be locked.)

The USA cancelled multiple bomber projects and cut back funding on others to do a crash program on the B-36. Even then the early models had severe problems. In other words, we likely poured money at the problems until they got fixed.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2004-10-09 03:53pm

acesand8s wrote:Just finished the Big One now and will move on to the next one (The Great Game, right?).

One question occurred to me while I was reading it though. I thought the B-36 had some severe production flaws and the first operational wings weren't ready until 1951. How was the US able to overcome these issues and have such a large force available by '47? (I'd ask the question at the other site, but the story threads for The Big One appear to be locked.)

Historically almost little work was done on the B-36 in-between 1940 when it was envisioned and 1944, and it wasn't really a fullbore project until after the war was won. Because more of them get built sooner in this TL and the work was always high priority, the problems the plane had can be found and fixed with sufficient time to get improved production aircraft into units in time for the big one. Meanwhile, historically the early B-36 production run was very slow, largely because of arguments over the future of US strategic forces and postwar budget cutting. That greatly hampered troubleshooting and getting the plane fully operational.

CaptainChewbacca · Post by **CaptainChewbacca** » 2004-10-10 10:17pm

Anyone besides me think that aerial combat in TBO is REALLY intense? I mean, they use nukes to shoot down planes. How do they avoid the EMP effects?

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2004-10-10 10:20pm

CaptainChewbacca wrote:Anyone besides me think that aerial combat in TBO is REALLY intense? I mean, they use nukes to shoot down planes. How do they avoid the EMP effects?

Hardened electronics. IIRC you can build chips out of something other
than plain jane silicon to alleviate EMP...It's buried in my Guide to World
Naval Weapons Systems somewhere....

CMOS/SOS

Silicon on Sapphire technology, for better resistance to radiation

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2004-10-10 10:21pm

CaptainChewbacca wrote:Anyone besides me think that aerial combat in TBO is REALLY intense? I mean, they use nukes to shoot down planes. How do they avoid the EMP effects?

Probably various shielding and hardening techniques. Plus, most nuclear air-to-air combat takes place at a decent distance away so short-range EMP effects are minimized. You might note that closer-in things like the AIM-7 Sparrow and AIM-9 Sidewinder are heavily used.

Grand Admiral Thrawn · Post by **Grand Admiral Thrawn** » 2004-10-10 11:00pm

CaptainChewbacca wrote:Anyone besides me think that aerial combat in TBO is REALLY intense? I mean, they use nukes to shoot down planes. How do they avoid the EMP effects?

Stuart said the major problem of the F-108A was it had the AIM-47s which were useful for only long range attacks and a cannon.

Zor · Post by **Zor** » 2004-10-11 12:18am

Do the Yanks in TBOverse have bases/Hotels/colonies on the moon and in orbit by about 2004? There Space Program is far more developed, Arrowspace Fighters and Bombers, reusable spacecraft in the sixties and a bunch of other things.

darthdavid · Post by **darthdavid** » 2004-10-11 12:25am

Zor wrote:Do the Yanks in TBOverse have bases/Hotels/colonies on the moon and in orbit by about 2004? There Space Program is far more developed, Arrowspace Fighters and Bombers, reusable spacecraft in the sixties and a bunch of other things.

Wtf... Arrowspace?