Animatrix - Cain and Abel (Matrix crossover)

Stravo · Post by **Stravo** » 2003-10-23 03:20pm

The_Lumberjack wrote:And is that the end of the Smiths? Considering that Skynet just took down original Smith?

I never said that was the original Smith, and considering the replicative nature of Smith can there be an original anymore? Smith will be back. Skynet took down two Smiths out of god knws how many. You wanna see some real Skynet v. Smith v. Neo action....Burly Brawl.

El Moose Monstero · Post by **El Moose Monstero** » 2003-10-23 03:23pm

Well, there must be an original to take down, otherwise the whole Revolutions trailer with Neo vs. what we assume to be the original wouldnt make any sense, but ok, not original smith, that's good to know...

2000AD · Post by **2000AD** » 2003-10-23 03:25pm

Stravo wrote: You wanna see some real Skynet v. Smith v. Neo action....Burly Brawl.

Judging by the previous actions of Smith, Neo and Skynet in this fic wouldn't Skynet completely own everyone ? Unless ..... SKynet can't defend itself aginst Smiths "assimilation" like neo can. Just how cool would Smith-net be !!!

Stravo · Post by **Stravo** » 2003-10-23 03:30pm

2000AD wrote:
Stravo wrote: You wanna see some real Skynet v. Smith v. Neo action....Burly Brawl.
Judging by the previous actions of Smith, Neo and Skynet in this fic wouldn't Skynet completely own everyone ? Unless ..... SKynet can't defend itself aginst Smiths "assimilation" like neo can. Just how cool would Smith-net be !!!

Skynet will own, but Neo is the One and Smith is legion so it should prove to be an interesting fight.

El Moose Monstero · Post by **El Moose Monstero** » 2003-10-23 03:33pm

Just out of interest, Stavro, is the imagery here, such as Skynet being this onyx and blue eyed creature, your own imagery or is it from one of the novelisations?

2000AD · Post by **2000AD** » 2003-10-23 03:33pm

But if it takes skynet 0.001 nano seconds to down two Smiths, how long is it going to take to down 100 Smiths? Still way less than a second apparently, unless skynet was talking bull.

Stravo · Post by **Stravo** » 2003-10-23 03:35pm

The_Lumberjack wrote:Just out of interest, Stavro, is the imagery here, such as Skynet being this onyx and blue eyed creature, your own imagery or is it from one of the novelisations?

That's all me, I never read any of the novels. I just wanted to imagine something imposing and powerful but still sticking to the basic Terminator type vision. I figured Skynet would be more like a T-1000, liquid metal imbued with a fantastic intellect rather than a bulky T-800 type. If the TX proves to be a successful model he would eventually switch to an uber TX model.

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2003-10-23 09:09pm

Stravo wrote:
The_Lumberjack wrote:Just out of interest, Stavro, is the imagery here, such as Skynet being this onyx and blue eyed creature, your own imagery or is it from one of the novelisations?
That's all me, I never read any of the novels. I just wanted to imagine something imposing and powerful but still sticking to the basic Terminator type vision. I figured Skynet would be more like a T-1000, liquid metal imbued with a fantastic intellect rather than a bulky T-800 type. If the TX proves to be a successful model he would eventually switch to an uber TX model.

I'd doubt that. T-X is really a heavy grunt trooper, with apparently less-advanced processing. Its also less flexible than T-1000, and Skynet strikes me as a being which does not rely on firearms...much like Neo.

P.S. So he is, in fact, a T-1000?

Stravo · Post by **Stravo** » 2003-10-23 10:39pm

Illuminatus Primus wrote:
P.S. So he is, in fact, a T-1000?

Yes he is.

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2003-10-24 12:14am

Stravo wrote:
Illuminatus Primus wrote:
P.S. So he is, in fact, a T-1000?
Yes he is.

I had some really cool visuals in my head of Neo taking on three or four T-1000s at once.

Though I'd think the T-1000 in your story is a bit over-uber, the fact that he's Skynet's incarnation makes it more understandable.

Stravo · Post by **Stravo** » 2003-10-24 12:26am

Illuminatus Primus wrote:
Stravo wrote:
Illuminatus Primus wrote:
P.S. So he is, in fact, a T-1000?
Yes he is.
I had some really cool visuals in my head of Neo taking on three or four T-1000s at once.

Though I'd think the T-1000 in your story is a bit over-uber, the fact that he's Skynet's incarnation makes it more understandable.

Neo will be taking on multiple T-1000's in a fight coming in while, (He'd hate me if he was real, all that liquid metal so hard to score good clean kung fu hits on) but the black skinned T-1000 is Skynet in a souped up T-1000 shell. Also Skynet's processing power makes him a literal god in the Matrix so it should prove very interesting in later fights.

Crown · Post by **Crown** » 2003-10-24 03:11am

The_Lumberjack wrote:Well, there must be an original to take down, otherwise the whole Revolutions trailer with Neo vs. what we assume to be the original wouldnt make any sense, but ok, not original smith, that's good to know...

What makes you think that there needs to be an original? The new trailer proves the opposite; in fact Reloaded does. Otherwise how could human-Smith exist when disconnected from the Matrix?

Shroom Man 777 · Post by **Shroom Man 777** » 2003-10-24 07:36am

Stravo, what you've done here is magnificent. I love the M's comments on Archie's being like the KFC Colonel. And I loved how Smith got dissected by Skynet, although you could've made Skynet more ruthless and evil, yet cold and methological like the T-1000. But you've done a superb job. Keep it up and post a wee bit faster.

2000AD · Post by **2000AD** » 2003-10-24 08:57am

Shroom Man 777 wrote:Keep it up and post a wee bit faster.

How fast do you want the guy to go! He normally manafges to do Starcrossed every week or two and he's got three other fics as well!!!

Hang on a sec .... that's it ! He's writing so many fics he plans to take all the GSDA's this year !!!

Shroom Man 777 · Post by **Shroom Man 777** » 2003-10-24 10:21am

2000AD wrote:
How fast do you want the guy to go! He normally manafges to do Starcrossed every week or two and he's got three other fics as well!!!

Hang on a sec .... that's it ! He's writing so many fics he plans to take all the GSDA's this year !!!

GSDA?

I thought StarCrossed was finished. Anyway, it'd be nice if he'd make a chapter once a week, or once every two weeks. Once every three weeks would satisfy me too. But come now, it's been a month since between this latest chapter and the last one.

El Moose Monstero · Post by **El Moose Monstero** » 2003-10-24 12:08pm

Crown wrote:
The_Lumberjack wrote:Well, there must be an original to take down, otherwise the whole Revolutions trailer with Neo vs. what we assume to be the original wouldnt make any sense, but ok, not original smith, that's good to know...
What makes you think that there needs to be an original? The new trailer proves the opposite; in fact Reloaded does. Otherwise how could human-Smith exist when disconnected from the Matrix?

Possibily, but then why is Neo fighting one Smith alone in the trailer? Surely he should be trying to terminate all of them if there is no original or source.

Post by **NecronLord** » 2003-10-24 03:42pm

2000AD wrote:But if it takes skynet 0.001 nano seconds to down two Smiths, how long is it going to take to down 100 Smiths? Still way less than a second apparently, unless skynet was talking bull.

Well, if Skynet wasn't talking bull, then Skynet would be able to destroy six billion Smiths in 0.003 seconds. I think that perhaps any fighting against Skynet had best be left to the programmers.

El Moose Monstero · Post by **El Moose Monstero** » 2003-10-24 04:31pm

I wonder though, if the tremendous strain on the nodes would limit Skynet's power somewhat? I'm only speculating here, but if the nodes were breaking down simply due to Skynet's presence, a period of prolonged fighting might cause them to break down completely, I don't know what that will do, it being Stavro's story and all, but I doubt it will be healthy for those involved.

EDIT: And I still stand by my request that, even if Stavro doesnt want to sticky it, at least it merits a cleaned thread so reviewers don't have to wade through all this debate to find a story. (And IMO, that should go for any long standing fanfic, simply for viewer convenience...)

Shroom Man 777 · Post by **Shroom Man 777** » 2003-10-25 06:40am

The_Lumberjack wrote:
EDIT: And I still stand by my request that, even if Stavro doesnt want to sticky it, at least it merits a cleaned thread so reviewers don't have to wade through all this debate to find a story. (And IMO, that should go for any long standing fanfic, simply for viewer convenience...)

I do concur. The vastness of this thread will discourage viewers from seeing this highly entertaining work.

And I do believe that there is an original Smith, or else why the heck would Neo be just fighting one Smith in the Revo trailer? It's gotta be the original Smith, what other reason is there? Or it could be the Smith who is using the Oracle's body after the Smiths assimilate her.

Stravo · Post by **Stravo** » 2003-11-06 03:10am

No this is not an update. It's a vow to my fans and the fans of this story. I will NOT end it like that CRIME of a movie Revolutions. I will split this story off after Reloaded and keep the FUCK away from most of what we saw in that travesty. So if you were fans of the movie (first of all have yourself examined psychologically) it will not be anything like Revolutions.

Sorry but my ass still hurts from being anally raped by the W Brothers.

2000AD · Post by **2000AD** » 2003-11-06 05:51am

Stravo wrote:No this is not an update. It's a vow to my fans and the fans of this story. I will NOT end it like that CRIME of a movie Revolutions. I will split this story off after Reloaded and keep the FUCK away from most of what we saw in that travesty. So if you were fans of the movie (first of all have yourself examined psychologically) it will not be anything like Revolutions.

Sorry but my ass still hurts from being anally raped by the W Brothers.

So Stravo stated ... and there was much rejoicing ("yay")

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2003-11-06 09:10am

Stravo wrote:No this is not an update. It's a vow to my fans and the fans of this story. I will NOT end it like that CRIME of a movie Revolutions. I will split this story off after Reloaded and keep the FUCK away from most of what we saw in that travesty. So if you were fans of the movie (first of all have yourself examined psychologically) it will not be anything like Revolutions.

Sorry but my ass still hurts from being anally raped by the W Brothers.

Oh thank you...this will avoid much.

2000AD · Post by **2000AD** » 2003-11-06 09:17am

So is it going to end as suggested in the "endings thread"?

Neo wakes up in the red pill room missing a kidney?

Rye · Post by **Rye** » 2003-11-06 01:58pm

Ah, thank godless for you Stravo, you're an inspiration of matrix-related hope.

Agent Fisher · Post by **Agent Fisher** » 2003-11-08 02:33am

cool Stravo you mentioned Colonel Sanders.