"Reign of Terror" Revisited

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Um. I mut've missed something. Where did it say for sure that it was some Force GHOST?? I doubt ghosts can cut people apart like that. I figured it was just a jedi, sith, or other force-sensitive that killed them... Hell, I wasn't even sure it was someone force-sensitive.. Must read closer for the stories..
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Personally, I fancy the idea that it's some obscure and inhuman thing of the kind that Captain Kirk encountered a lot of.
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Darth Wong wrote:In any case, the humans on HR51 are fighting a desperate battle for survival against an enemy who intends to relentlessly push men into the meat grinder until they overrun the defenders.
I wonder if Gul Lucet will have the presence of mind to suggest gassing the tunnel complex.

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fusion wrote:Darth Wong you aren't going to kill everyone off right?
I suspect that our Sith ghost/spirit/whatever needs a few warm bodies to run the ship, and it prefers Humans to Cardassians.
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Ted C wrote:I wonder if Gul Lucet will have the presence of mind to suggest gassing the tunnel complex.

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I wonder if the Jem'Hadar will do that or if they'll judge that a coward way of fighting.
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Well, they're already using ranged weapons...
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Ted C wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:In any case, the humans on HR51 are fighting a desperate battle for survival against an enemy who intends to relentlessly push men into the meat grinder until they overrun the defenders.
I wonder if Gul Lucet will have the presence of mind to suggest gassing the tunnel complex.

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I've argued the DS9 writers should have done just that: have the Jem'Hadar routinely employ poison gas in ground combat and boarding actions. It would quickly and easily established them as ruthless and evil, and the FX would be cheap. You wouldn't even need to provide chemical warfare gear for the Jem'Hadar if you wrote that they were immune to the gas.
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Of course, knowing Star Trek, the Starfleet solution to the Jemmies using poison gas would have been personal energy shields and "portable oxygen replicators".
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that would be rediculously elaborate when they can just reverse the polarity of the gas with a tachyon pulse and then eject the warp core that they inexplicably have.

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Themightytom wrote:that would be rediculously elaborate when they can just reverse the polarity of the gas with a tachyon pulse and then eject the warp core that they inexplicably have.
Yeah, yeah, hurf hurf, Trek has ridiculous technobabble. Once was funny, twice is piling on.
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lord Martiya wrote:
Ted C wrote:I wonder if Gul Lucet will have the presence of mind to suggest gassing the tunnel complex.

:twisted:
I wonder if the Jem'Hadar will do that or if they'll judge that a coward way of fighting.
Aren't they supposedly more interested in results than methods?
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Ted C wrote:
lord Martiya wrote:
Ted C wrote:I wonder if Gul Lucet will have the presence of mind to suggest gassing the tunnel complex.

:twisted:
I wonder if the Jem'Hadar will do that or if they'll judge that a coward way of fighting.
Aren't they supposedly more interested in results than methods?
Haven't you watched "Siege of AR-588"? The Jem'Hadar are an exaggerated version of Japanese foot soldiers in WW2: they take unnecessarily high casualties because of a combination of poor training, reckless tactics emphasizing bravery over discretion, and a retarded honour code.

Look, we can argue all day about how realistic this is (keeping in mind that we do have certain historical precedents), but the fact is that anyone who's watched Star Trek knows that this is the way they fight. Simply adopting grenades would be a huge step forward for these morons.
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Darth Wong wrote:
Ted C wrote:Aren't they supposedly more interested in results than methods?
Haven't you watched "Siege of AR-588"? The Jem'Hadar are an exaggerated version of Japanese foot soldiers in WW2: they take unnecessarily high casualties because of a combination of poor training, reckless tactics emphasizing bravery over discretion, and a retarded honour code.
Now that you mention it, no, I haven't actually seen "Siege of AR-588". I actually don't have a whole lot of direct viewing of DS9. I didn't realize that the stupidity inherent in the sequence of events was related to an Idiot Honor Code; I had merely chalked it up to writers not knowing anything about military tactics.
Darth Wong wrote:Look, we can argue all day about how realistic this is (keeping in mind that we do have certain historical precedents), but the fact is that anyone who's watched Star Trek knows that this is the way they fight. Simply adopting grenades would be a huge step forward for these morons.
Point taken.
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Darth Wong wrote:Look, we can argue all day about how realistic this is (keeping in mind that we do have certain historical precedents), but the fact is that anyone who's watched Star Trek knows that this is the way they fight. Simply adopting grenades would be a huge step forward for these morons.
Honestly just putting a buttstock on the phaser rifles was a huge step forward and that only took, what, 8 movies and 3 series?
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CmdrWilkens wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:Look, we can argue all day about how realistic this is (keeping in mind that we do have certain historical precedents), but the fact is that anyone who's watched Star Trek knows that this is the way they fight. Simply adopting grenades would be a huge step forward for these morons.
Honestly just putting a buttstock on the phaser rifles was a huge step forward and that only took, what, 8 movies and 3 series?
I've long come to suspect that Common Sense, in the Star Trek universe, is a rare element/mineral, one that is held in reserve lest it be wasted on trivial things. The problem this leads to, then, is that nobody fucking has any, thus nobody knows when to fucking use it.
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Darth Wong wrote:Haven't you watched "Siege of AR-588"? The Jem'Hadar are an exaggerated version of Japanese foot soldiers in WW2: they take unnecessarily high casualties because of a combination of poor training, reckless tactics emphasizing bravery over discretion, and a retarded honour code.
Its worse. The Japs at least were "forced" to stay that way due to their weak industrial base and lousy technology. Their tactics were determined by the geopolitical situation and their resources, which caused a feedback loop.
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CmdrWilkens wrote: Honestly just putting a buttstock on the phaser rifles was a huge step forward and that only took, what, 8 movies and 3 series?
I'm Pretty sure the original Mitchell killing Rifle from the 2nd TOS Pilot has a stock...
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Crazedwraith wrote:I'm Pretty sure the original Mitchell killing Rifle from the 2nd TOS Pilot has a stock...
Not that I recall, and even if it does, the thing looks absurdly fragile, and has many of the problems found in the TNG "phaser 3".
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I had fallen behind in this fic and didn't realize that I had an insert. Cool! Thanks (except for the blinding part...seriously, being legally blind wasn't bad enough?)
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Ted C wrote:Not that I recall, and even if it does, the thing looks absurdly fragile, and has many of the problems found in the TNG "phaser 3".
It had a sort of handle at the back that could conceiveably be used as a stock.
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I'm liking it.
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Curse Mike's busy workload and loving family.

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I'm so glad you decided to resurrect this.
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This is a really engaging read. I'm glad I missed it the first time around so I wasn't waiting all this time for an update :P
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Bumpity. I finally got the time to get up to date on this. This is awesome.
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