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About the TGG, how do you suggect going about reading it?

Posted: 2010-02-24 10:22pm
by kilopi505
Hi there everyone! I'm a newbie named kilopi505!

I first encountered this wonderful website when I stumbled upon "The Salvation War". I finished Armageddon, Pantheocide and that other side story to Armageddon, in one week. Then I discovered the TGG multiverse through Anatomy of a war.

I have a problem. I...really wanna read the whole TGG multiverse, and I don't know where to start. I prefer chronologically (in story), but...I don't know where to start, since some of the stories happen at the same time. And there's the thing about a series of epics related to each other...I don't know how to go about it. Any suggestions anyone? :)

Re: About the TGG, how do you suggect going about reading it?

Posted: 2010-02-24 11:06pm
by The Duchess of Zeon
kilopi505 wrote:Hi there everyone! I'm a newbie named kilopi505!

I first encountered this wonderful website when I stumbled upon "The Salvation War". I finished Armageddon, Pantheocide and that other side story to Armageddon, in one week. Then I discovered the TGG multiverse through Anatomy of a war.

I have a problem. I...really wanna read the whole TGG multiverse, and I don't know where to start. I prefer chronologically (in story), but...I don't know where to start, since some of the stories happen at the same time. And there's the thing about a series of epics related to each other...I don't know how to go about it. Any suggestions anyone? :)

Reading order, suggested:

Anatomy of a War, by Steve.
The Wrath of Paradise, by Steve.
The Thundering of Guns, by Steve.
55 Days at Kalunda, by Steve and myself.
Hollow Life, by Steve.
What Price Peace (unfinished), by Steve and myself.
Frozen Phoenix / Jade Throne, by Marshal Purnell.
The Burning of Kass Zaris, by Marshal Purnell.
Unfinished Business, by Marshal Purnell.
Sole Survivor, by myself and Marshal Purnell.
When Two Worlds Collide, by myself.
The Cardinal Files: Just a Day Off. By myself and Marshal Purnell.
The Cardinal Files: An Inside Job. By myself and Marshal Purnell.
One Small Step, by Steve.
Golden Lanka, by myself.
The Last Woman Standing, by myself and Steve.
Federation Civil War cycle, by Steve.

Re: About the TGG, how do you suggect going about reading it?

Posted: 2010-02-25 12:38am
by Steve
You forgot Wrath of Paradise, it can go with Anatomy at the beginning.

Re: About the TGG, how do you suggect going about reading it?

Posted: 2010-02-25 01:30am
by kilopi505
The Duchess of Zeon wrote:
kilopi505 wrote:Hi there everyone! I'm a newbie named kilopi505!

I first encountered this wonderful website when I stumbled upon "The Salvation War". I finished Armageddon, Pantheocide and that other side story to Armageddon, in one week. Then I discovered the TGG multiverse through Anatomy of a war.

I have a problem. I...really wanna read the whole TGG multiverse, and I don't know where to start. I prefer chronologically (in story), but...I don't know where to start, since some of the stories happen at the same time. And there's the thing about a series of epics related to each other...I don't know how to go about it. Any suggestions anyone? :)

Reading order, suggested:

Anatomy of a War, by Steve.
The Wrath of Paradise, by Steve.
The Thundering of Guns, by Steve.
55 Days at Kalunda, by Steve and myself.
Hollow Life, by Steve.
What Price Peace (unfinished), by Steve and myself.
Frozen Phoenix / Jade Throne, by Marshal Purnell.
The Burning of Kass Zaris, by Marshal Purnell.
Unfinished Business, by Marshal Purnell.
Sole Survivor, by myself and Marshal Purnell.
When Two Worlds Collide, by myself.
The Cardinal Files: Just a Day Off. By myself and Marshal Purnell.
The Cardinal Files: An Inside Job. By myself and Marshal Purnell.
One Small Step, by Steve.
Golden Lanka, by myself.
The Last Woman Standing, by myself and Steve.
Federation Civil War cycle, by Steve.

How is this arranged? Just asking.

Re: About the TGG, how do you suggect going about reading it?

Posted: 2010-02-25 05:13am
by UnderAGreySky
Here's a more pertinent question...

What does "TGG" stand for?

:oops:

Re: About the TGG, how do you suggect going about reading it?

Posted: 2010-02-25 05:18am
by The Duchess of Zeon
UnderAGreySky wrote:Here's a more pertinent question...

What does "TGG" stand for?

:oops:
The Great Game. It was originally a massive geopolitical STGOD crossover universe, in which players could play any nation from any sci-fi universe, based on a story or entirely made up. When the game collapsed, we started using it as a story setting for all of these mega-crossover works of fanfiction.

Re: About the TGG, how do you suggect going about reading it?

Posted: 2010-02-25 07:23am
by UnderAGreySky
Next question...

What is STGOD? :(

Look, I'm a total n00b at these things, and a Google search has not helped one teensy bit since everyone supposes that everyone else knows what all there acronyms mean.

Re: About the TGG, how do you suggect going about reading it?

Posted: 2010-02-26 02:26pm
by The Duchess of Zeon
UnderAGreySky wrote:Next question...

What is STGOD? :(

Look, I'm a total n00b at these things, and a Google search has not helped one teensy bit since everyone supposes that everyone else knows what all there acronyms mean.
Basically a big combination RPG/grand-scale strategy game/collaborative writing system all in one that's been going on in the community that formed this board since the late 90's... There's a couple of them presently running in the Games section, actually.

The justification for the order is, for the guy who asked, a holistic metric of timeline-coherent and plot-point coherent reading. It's mostly chronological but varies from that to preserve plot-point congruency and ease of reading.

Re: About the TGG, how do you suggect going about reading it?

Posted: 2010-02-26 09:06pm
by Steve
To be precise, STGOD is the ASVS/SDN term for such a game. On Spacebattles they're called SDs or "Story Debates" since the very first such games were started in the Vs. Forum.

Re: About the TGG, how do you suggect going about reading it?

Posted: 2010-02-27 06:01am
by Tanner
It good to see TGG is back on track I thought you guys kinda lost intrest. Will we seeing anymore new stuff in near future?

Re: About the TGG, how do you suggect going about reading it?

Posted: 2010-02-27 12:35pm
by Steve
New and old for now, with the 5th Anniversary Edition of Anatomy. I'm using the chance to fix things that weren't quite right before, to show stuff I ended up dropping and, for thematic purposes, to give little links and connections to other TGG material that has since been written or may be written. Also it will be chapterized for Mayabird's TOC thread.

Re: About the TGG, how do you suggect going about reading it?

Posted: 2010-03-05 12:35pm
by kilopi505
Thank You! :)

Re: About the TGG, how do you suggect going about reading it?

Posted: 2010-03-27 11:09pm
by Kartr_Kana
Hey Steve was wondering if you're still working on Hold at All Costs or if it got folded into a different title or even just died. Really enjoy TGG especially your ST-3 stuff.

Oh and if anyone could point me to more MWB-32 stories, especially anything to do with the Pondicherry incident and the 'current' disposition and ongoing politics with the Federated Commonwealth. Thanks

Re: About the TGG, how do you suggect going about reading it?

Posted: 2010-03-28 03:16am
by Steve
Kartr_Kana wrote:Hey Steve was wondering if you're still working on Hold at All Costs or if it got folded into a different title or even just died. Really enjoy TGG especially your ST-3 stuff.
Hold at all Costs has been on hiatus for the last two years and I don't see that changing soon. It's one potential project for me to resume after I get done with the 5th Anniversary Edition of Anatomy of a War, in part because it's necessary to set up a story Marina wants to do with some major repercussions for society in the TGG Multiverse.

I've had a couple problems with it. One is simply that I'm not sure how to get from Point A, where the story is, to Points C and E, where the story will eventually end up at mid-point and end-point. I generally know what needs to happen in the middle and at the end but I'm having trouble getting my head into organizing all the mid-point stuff.

The other? Last late summer-early fall I got back into TrekLit to a degree. And I liked it. Unfortunately, the new continuity-attentive novels are completely incompatible with TGG and, moreso, my cynical deconstruction of Trek for the TGG Multiverse is utterly at odds with how the novels finally have begun portraying the Federation's internal mechanisms and such. As a result, the lost opportunity for integrating TrekLit into TGG and permitting for more... friendly things (a UFP that doesn't collapse but becomes a full functioning me\mber of the Multiverse, a Bacco-Dale summit that consolidates the wartime alliance of the ADN and UFP, etc.) has somewhat drained my enthusiasm for writing Fed Civil War.
Oh and if anyone could point me to more MWB-32 stories, especially anything to do with the Pondicherry incident and the 'current' disposition and ongoing politics with the Federated Commonwealth. Thanks
State of Siege by Marina and Chris covers the occupied worlds of the Combine under Katherine Davion's "Governor-Generalship" (with her takeover of the FedSuns to come soon - it's also post-FedCom sundering). I'd originally intended to write a trilogy of stories on how Multiversal Contact changed the BTechverse, up to the sundering of the FedCom in the TGG continuity, but odds are it'll never be done; instead, though, if I ever get the impetus, I'm thinking of making a TGG anthology (like the one-story "A War Like No Other" one currently out) on the same topic, likely to be titled "The Winds of Change", with various short stories highlighting how the BTech universe is slowly being changed, and diverting from the canon course, by Multiversal Contact.

Re: About the TGG, how do you suggect going about reading it?

Posted: 2010-03-30 12:51am
by Kartr_Kana
Thanks Steve I'll get right on reading State of Siege. I'm worried about Katherine though since in traditional BTech she was the one who murdered her own mother and is undoubtedly one of the greatest villains ever to be written about in that Universe.

As for the Federation Civil War it's well written and very well thought out, (currently reading The War that wasn't) and I hope you find it in you to keep working on it. Though perhaps if you're enjoying these new Trek books maybe you should write up an alternate TrekVerse a la the whole multiple time lines so popular in the Gate-Trek series. It'd be really interesting to see how the different UFPs/Starfleets would react to each other. Just saying :D

Anyway thanks for what you have written and keep up the good work!