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Decades after the disastrous Battle of Endor, our saviour finally arose from the ashes of the Empire. He bore the noble bloodline of Vader and the dark power of the Sith. It was under his leadership that the Empire was reborn. It is under his leadership that we shall accomplish the unprecedented: the conquest of a new galaxy. A galaxy bereft of strong leadership. The galaxy of Star Trek!

1. While the Imperial Remnant maintained many of the trappings of Palpatine's regime -- a strong military and limited venues of public expression -- it was far more progressive and devoid of the rampant injustices found during the height of the Empire's power. Slavery was abolished, as were the extremes of anti-alien sentiment. The Imperial Remnant unobtrusively continued adhering to the strict tenets of the New Order, growing increasingly irrelevant to galactic affairs.

The Empire is a fair place and is controlled by Gilad Pellaeon, who had made peace with the Republic.

2. During the Yuuzhan Vong invasion, Pellaeon recognized the threat the alien menace posed, even though their incursion had skirted past Imperial space. Despite some protest from the Moff Council, Pellaeon committed his forces to a joint Imperial-New Republic offensive at the Battles of Garqi and Ithor. Despite the best efforts of Pellaeon and New Republic Admiral Traest Kre'fey, the Yuuzhan Vong destroyed the ecology of Ithor. Shocked by the power of the attack, the Imperial Remnant recalled their assistance of the New Republic, and chose instead to sit out the invasion on the sidelines.

The YZV are killing the Republic and the Empire even tried to help. They could not put up forces to help the Republic after the defeat or even invade the ST Galaxy without being vulnerable to attack.

3. It was a move the Moff Council would come to regret. They falsely believed the Imperial Remnant safe from attack, since it had been ignored for much of the invasion. The Yuuzhan Vong proved that assumption wrong, when it brutally attacked the Imperial worlds. Pellaeon was critically wounded in the attack, but the sudden arrival of a Jedi mission exploring the Unknown Regions saved his life. Jedi healers stabilized Pellaeon's condition, and Luke Skywalker and Jacen Solo helped Pellaeon expose infiltrators in the Imperial ranks and refocus Imperial efforts to assist the newly founded Galactic Federation of Free Alliances.

This proves that the Empire could not attack ST because of the YZV. In fact the Republic and the Empire are forming the Galactic Federation of Free Alliances. This only makes them more friendly to other empires.

4. I assume that the character Kanos in this story is the Imperial Royal Guard, Kir Kanos, who has tried to keep Palpatine's dream alive. He was stopped and is now Kenix Kil, and posed as a bounty hunter. With this alias, he was better able to hide from the hunters pursuing him. Kanos succeeded in killing would-be Emperor Xandel Carivus. Kanos' current whereabouts are not known. There is no way he could have a SSD or DS in this invasion of the Federation.

Conlusion: With so much shit going down in the SW universe, the Empire has no Forces or Will to attack and invade ST. This makes it easier for ST and SW to get along more. If anything, a Fanfic should be based on the ST and SW universes joining up to fight the Yuuzhan Vong.

You're attacking a fanfic written before the Imperial Remnant was ever mentioned together with the rest of the E.U stuff to try to discredit it because it doesn't incorporate the NJO?

Sovereign, Darth Wong is good, but hardly omniscient

And you're a fucking idiot.

Its not that the story is bad. But there should be a serious rethinking of all this. You cant invade ST with all this happening and the Empire is no longer a threat anyway.

Sovereign wrote:Its not that the story is bad. But there should be a serious rethinking of all this. You cant invade ST with all this happening and the Empire is no longer a threat anyway.

It's a FANFIC. You can change stuff in a fanfic.

Ever consider that Wongs fanfic is set in an alternate reality?

SD.net clearly follows on well after the EU we have seen to date. The Emperor (and his apprentices) is an Adult version of the Solo Children. And in the part you quoted it is clear that he took over both the Alliance and Imperial Remnant and made them one new, Whole, Empire. Resources were pumped into the Navy and Military again, and under his rule th Empire is again Galaxy-wide and strong. Reading and understanding the context of the Fanfi and even that part you quoted would have made this obvious. There is no conflict with Canon and no major conflict with the EU.

Also you're assumption about Kanos is simply that, an assumption. Mike created Kanos for his Fic, if the name was inspired by the Kanos from Crimson Empire then that's all. Unless Mike cares to say differently, they are two different characters who have the same Surname.

Lastly, your sig pic (though a good pic of Picard) is too large, they should be no higher than 100 pixels - yours is 240 pixels.

Rob Wilson wrote:SD.net clearly follows on well after the EU we have seen to date. The Emperor (and his apprentices) is an Adult version of the Solo Children. And in the part you quoted it is clear that he took over both the Alliance and Imperial Remnant and made them one new, Whole, Empire. Resources were pumped into the Navy and Military again, and under his rule th Empire is again Galaxy-wide and strong. Reading and understanding the context of the Fanfi and even that part you quoted would have made this obvious. There is no conflict with Canon and no major conflict with the EU.

Actually, Anakin has died in the E.U. Therefore it would be hard for him to become emperor later on.

This is so sad it's funny. Sovereign, why are you commenting on the continuity of a fanfic?

Colonel Olrik wrote:

Rob Wilson wrote:SD.net clearly follows on well after the EU we have seen to date. The Emperor (and his apprentices) is an Adult version of the Solo Children. And in the part you quoted it is clear that he took over both the Alliance and Imperial Remnant and made them one new, Whole, Empire. Resources were pumped into the Navy and Military again, and under his rule th Empire is again Galaxy-wide and strong. Reading and understanding the context of the Fanfi and even that part you quoted would have made this obvious. There is no conflict with Canon and no major conflict with the EU.

Actually, Anakin has died in the E.U. Therefore it would be hard for him to become emperor later on.

Not at the point when Mike wrote the Fic. Plus Palpatine kept dying and coming back, whose to say that Anakin's spirit didn't move into a clone body after death and return to subjigate the Empire.

Rob Wilson wrote: Not at the point when Mike wrote the Fic.

Yep

Plus Palpatine kept dying and coming back, whose to say that Anakin's spirit didn't move into a clone body after death and return to subjigate the Empire.

Don't give them ideas. The whole imortal Palpatine deal was (in my opinion) bad enough

There's the whole Anakin lookalike kid. I don't trust NJO writers...



Besides,

1. The very fact Anakin Solo didn't die, then became a senator and then Emperor should clue you in that it's an alternate reality.
2. A single ISD couldn't conquer the Federation anyways.

Colonel Olrik wrote: Don't give them ideas. The whole imortal Palpatine deal was (in my opinion) bad enough

Yep, I agree, just showing you that the line "Decades after the disastrous Battle of Endor, our saviour finally arose from the ashes of the Empire." Is open enough to leave a lot of wiggle room and can back-up nearly any explaination Mike would want to make. For all we know the Anakin Skywalker-Solo in SD.net continuity is actually a Grandchild, or a later Han/Leia offspring named in memory of the first one.

The very fact Anakin Solo didn't die, then became a senator and then Emperor should clue you in that it's an alternate reality.

Sounds like a SW version of the Mirror Universe to me.

Wow, new record for the most retarded thread topic ever, *glances at the name of the thread creator* I guess I shouldn't be surprised.

Sovereign, what are you suggesting, that Mike rewrite his fic so that it now includes the NJO series? That's rediculous. Why should a fanfic auther rewrite his fic everytime a new SW novel comes out so that it keeps continuity? By your logic, Stravo should cease writing StarCrossed becase he's destroyed the continuity of SW, TOS, and the TNG movies. He should also stop writing The Twilight War for the same reasons.

Your attitude that continuity should be preserved is foolish. Why should it be? A fanfic is just that: FICTION written by a FAN. What if tomorrow I write a fanfic where Luke, Han, and Leia are all killed in a shuttle crash the day after Endor and Chewie and Lando become the main heros of SW? What consequences do I face? Will LucasBooks deny me the right to post my work on the internet? Will the SW comminuity go up in arms because of this new continuity? Of course not, it's just a fanfic.

Now quit bitching and go back to your crazy ST claims.

Sovereign wrote:

The very fact Anakin Solo didn't die, then became a senator and then Emperor should clue you in that it's an alternate reality.

Sounds like a SW version of the Mirror Universe to me.

Or as I pointed out, much much later in the continuity and no conflicts whatsoever. Give it a rest already.

Sovereign wrote:

The very fact Anakin Solo didn't die, then became a senator and then Emperor should clue you in that it's an alternate reality.

Sounds like a SW version of the Mirror Universe to me.

No shit sherlock. Anyways, it's not an error to write a story that doesn't take into concideration events from novels not yet published.

Grand Admiral Thrawn wrote:Anyways, it's not an error to write a story that doesn't take into concideration events from novels not yet published.

He apparently thinks it is.

Looks like he's out of things to attack.....

Soverign you do realise decades can literally mean more than 20 years riiiiiggggghhhtttt ge what if its 80 years after Endor and Jacen Solos son ANAKIN is the one being talked about Senator from Hapes while his sister sits on the thrown. OOOOo ever considered that???

Typhonis 1 wrote:Soverign you do realise decades can literally mean more than 20 years riiiiiggggghhhtttt ge what if its 80 years after Endor and Jacen Solos son ANAKIN is the one being talked about Senator from Hapes while his sister sits on the thrown. OOOOo ever considered that???

I thought it was Anakin, as in the son of Han and Leia?

Aya wrote: I thought it was Anakin, as in the son of Han and Leia?

As I pointed out, he could have been named after the one in the NJO.

Sovvie, If you are trying to make us all think of you as even more of an idoit you have suceced. If however you seriously trying to attack a FANFIC for not fitting in with the NJO even though it was written before that, well i have only one thing to say to that:





DIE YOU IDIOT DIE!

Grand Admiral Thrawn wrote:No shit sherlock. Anyways, it's not an error to write a story that doesn't take into concideration events from novels not yet published.

Or any of the EU for that matter, in my opinion. It's a fanfic. Mine ignores the EU entirely.

I guess Starcrossed is wrong cause Luke didn't go with Vader in ESB.