The Mary Sue Test
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The Mary Sue Test
The Mary Sue Litmus Test FOR FANTASY FICTION
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SECTION 1: What's In A Name
* Is the character named after you? (10, automatic Mary Sue.)
* Is the character's name an unusual spelling of a more common name or word? (1)
* Is the character's name unusual in another way? (1)
* Reversed gender name (a woman with a male sounding name, or vice versa) (1)
* A name the character chose for him or herself? (1)
* A noun or adjective not normally used for a name? (1, 2 if the character is human)
* Does the character have a really cool name that you wish you had? (1)
* Is the character's name the title of the story, or is the title a description of the
character? (i.e., "The Girl Who Could Fly") (3)
* Is the character's name Hunter, Raven, any gemstone, or any variation on 'Angel' or 'Demon?'
(i.e., Cherub, Angelica, Desdemona) (4)
* Is the character's name that of any real-world mythical figure? (1)
* Did you spend more than a day looking for just the right name? (1)
* Did you spend no time at all looking for the right name, because all of your characters have
the same name? (2)
* And it's yours? (10 again. Bad, bad writer.)
* Have you considered naming your child, your pet, or yourself after the character? (1)
SECTION 2: Here's Lookin' At You
* Is the character the same gender as you? (1)
* Is the character any non-human race? (1)
* Is the character a hybrid of two or more species? (3)
* Is the character a cross-breed of any other type? (i.e., multi-ethnic, multi-clan) (1)
* Is the character not subject to limitations normally put upon members of his or her species?
(i.e., a human who is immortal, a vampire who does not die at dawn, a fairy who is not vulnerable
to iron) (4)
* Is the character subject to the limitations of his or her species, but does not receive any of
the benefits? (i.e., a fairy who cannot do magic, a vampire who cannot exert mystical control over
his or her victims, etc) (-4, only -1 if this situation is removed by the end of the story)
* Is the character a teenager or in his or her early twenties? (1)
* Does the character LOOK like he or she is a teenager or in his or her early twenties, even though
he or she is not? (2)
* Does this become a plot point? (1)
* Is your character the age you would like to be? (1)
* Is the character beautiful or handsome? (1)
* VERY beautiful or handsome? (1)
* Do one or more of your other characters find this character immediately extremely attractive? (1)
* Do other characters see the character as a threat due to his or her extreme good looks or effect
on those of the opposite sex? (2)
* Is the character plain? (-2)
* Is this commented on by other characters who are not motivated by jealousy? (-1)
* Is this changed somehow by the end of the story? (2)
* Is the character ugly? (-3)
* Is this commented on by other characters who are not motivated by jealousy? (-1)
* Is this changed somehow by the end of the story? (3)
* Is the character overweight? (-3)
* Is this commented on by other characters who are not motivated by jealousy? (-1)
* Is this changed somehow by the end of the story? (4)
* Does the character have a non-standard eye color for no good reason (such as species)? (2)
* Does this become a plot point? (2)
* Are the character's eyes emerald green, pure blue, or warm brown? (1)
* Do they change color when the character is feeling profound emotion? (1)
* Does the character have really nice hair that you describe more than once? (1)
* Is the character's hair raven black, pure white, gold, or flaming red? (1)
* Does the character have notably golden, dusky, or pale skin? (1)
* Does the character have an accent that you do not share? (1)
* Because the story takes place somewhere where everyone has that accent? (-1)
* Is the character's voice exceptionally attractive or dulcet? (1)
* Does the character have a strange scar or marking (such as a tattoo) that is noticed by another
character? (1)
* Is the character deaf, mute, or both? (1)
* Is this changed somehow by the end of the story? (3)
* Is the character otherwise physically disabled? (-2)
* Is the character mentally challenged? (-2)
SECTION 3: History
* Is the character the long-lost child or decendant of anybody? (2)
* Of another character? (5)
* Was the character adopted, or otherwise not raised by his or her own parents? (1)
* Is the character the last surviving member of any species, organization, or family? (1)
* Add points for each aspect seen somewhere during the character's life:
- abandoned by caregivers (1)
- born or forced into slavery (1)
- born or raised in extreme poverty (1)
- sole survivor of a calamity (2)
- physical abuse (2)
- sexual abuse by a caregiver (3)
- rape (3)
- member of a despised or pariah class or race (1, 2 if the story focuses on overcoming this)
- illigitimate birth (2)
- parent of an illigitimate child (1 each)
- any other life experience inspired by V.C. Andrews (3)
- death or death equivalent (3)
- resurrection from death (10)
* Does the character suffer from guilt about something terrible that he or she did in the past? (1)
* Do the other characters eventually convince him or her that it was not his or her fault? (1)
* IS it the character's fault? (-1)
* Does the character share your religious beliefs? (1)
* Did the character have an unusual birth or an unusual experience in early infancy? (i.e., abducted, placed
in a basket and set afloat, visited by Three Weirdos, etc.) (1)
* Does the character have a twin, a clone, or a sibling of the same gender? (2)
* About whom you intend to write a story later? (2)
* Does the character have a very good singing voice? (2)
* Or play an instrument amazingly well? (2)
* Like the harp, the dulcimer, or any other antiquated instrument? (2)
* Does the character have better (that is, more sophisticated) taste in music than you do? (1)
* Does the character have the same profession you have? (1)
* Does the character have a profession you WISH you had? (1)
* Is the character royalty of any description? (3)
* And he or she doesn't know it? (3)
*Does everyone wind up liking the character? (1)
* Even though she's showing them up and correcting them all the time? (1)
SECTION 4: The Voodoo You Do
* Is the character any inherently magical race? (1)
* Is the character extraordinarily powerful for a member of this race? (1)
* Does the character come from a different world or dimension? (Heaven and Hell count.) (1)
* Does the character, not being inherently magical by species, have magic anyway? (2)
* Did the character gain special powers upon reaching puberty? (1)
* Does the character have telekinesis or telepathy? (Twins count.) (2)
* Does the character just "know things?" (2)
* Can the character fly? (1)
* Without the aid of wings? (1)
* Can the character heal with a touch or a thought? (1)
* Do animals (particularly fuzzy ones) instincively like or respond to the character? (2)
* Does the character have a horse? (Substitute 'horse' for 'bird' or 'wolf' as needed) (1)
* A white horse? (1)
* A black horse? (1)
* That she can talk to? (1)
* And it talks back? (1)
* Only to the character? (1)
* Telepathically? (1)
* Does the character have a perceptible aura of power? (1)
* Of goodness? (1)
* Of evil? (-1)
* Is the character the smartest character in the story? (1)
* The best looking? (1)
* The most powerful? (1)
* The best fighter? (1)
* The only person from his or her village or culture or species to be trained in fighting? (2)
* Because he or she was just so talented? (1)
* That he or she was taken on by the super-talented master fighter? (1)
* Until he or she surpassed him? (2)
SECTION 5: The Love Connection
* Does the character fall in love with another character at some point in the story? (1)
* With more than one character? (1)
* Does the character have sex with another character at some point in the story? (1)
* With more than one character? (1 each)
* Does the character get married at any point? (1)
* Does the story end with the character's wedding? (2)
* Do all of the other characters attend? (2)
SECTION 6: The Real World
* Would you like to be friends with the character if you met in real life? (1)
* Would you dislike the character if you met them in real life? (-2)
* Do you think everyone who reads the story should like the character? (1)
* If someone doesn't like the character, do you take it as a personal attack on you? (1)
* Do you ever pretend, if just to yourself, that you ARE the character? (1)
SECTION 7: The Fiendish Plot
* Is the character the main character of the story? (2)
* When the character is introduced, is he or she immediately, or after a few pages of tense
plotting, admitted into the group of other characters? (1)
* Does the character manage to develop a relationship with an otherwise villanous character, and
through this relationship, reform the other character? (2)
* Does the villain became evil again after losing the character, but retain some last
vestige of goodness, evidenced by one selfless action at the end of the story? (4)
* Is the character transformed into a magical being? (4)
* Is the character happier in his or her new form? (1)
* Do the other characters like the character better in his or her new form? (1)
* Do you wish you could be transformed, for the neat powers? (1)
* Does the character save the day, or another character's life? (2)
* Through magical intervention? (1)
* Through dying? (3)
* Through almost dying? (1)
* Does everyone go into mourning? (1)
* Does the character save a life by weeping over the recently expired corpse? (3)
* Do you plan to write more stories revolving around this character? (2)
* Do you plan to write more stories revolving around this character's children? (2)
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SCORING
0-22 points: This is not a Mary Sue.
22-33 points: Borderline; could go either way depending on the author's skill.
34-45 points: Mary Sue. Proceed with the greatest caution.
46+ points: Reconsider your character and plot. Please.
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SECTION 1: What's In A Name
* Is the character named after you? (10, automatic Mary Sue.)
* Is the character's name an unusual spelling of a more common name or word? (1)
* Is the character's name unusual in another way? (1)
* Reversed gender name (a woman with a male sounding name, or vice versa) (1)
* A name the character chose for him or herself? (1)
* A noun or adjective not normally used for a name? (1, 2 if the character is human)
* Does the character have a really cool name that you wish you had? (1)
* Is the character's name the title of the story, or is the title a description of the
character? (i.e., "The Girl Who Could Fly") (3)
* Is the character's name Hunter, Raven, any gemstone, or any variation on 'Angel' or 'Demon?'
(i.e., Cherub, Angelica, Desdemona) (4)
* Is the character's name that of any real-world mythical figure? (1)
* Did you spend more than a day looking for just the right name? (1)
* Did you spend no time at all looking for the right name, because all of your characters have
the same name? (2)
* And it's yours? (10 again. Bad, bad writer.)
* Have you considered naming your child, your pet, or yourself after the character? (1)
SECTION 2: Here's Lookin' At You
* Is the character the same gender as you? (1)
* Is the character any non-human race? (1)
* Is the character a hybrid of two or more species? (3)
* Is the character a cross-breed of any other type? (i.e., multi-ethnic, multi-clan) (1)
* Is the character not subject to limitations normally put upon members of his or her species?
(i.e., a human who is immortal, a vampire who does not die at dawn, a fairy who is not vulnerable
to iron) (4)
* Is the character subject to the limitations of his or her species, but does not receive any of
the benefits? (i.e., a fairy who cannot do magic, a vampire who cannot exert mystical control over
his or her victims, etc) (-4, only -1 if this situation is removed by the end of the story)
* Is the character a teenager or in his or her early twenties? (1)
* Does the character LOOK like he or she is a teenager or in his or her early twenties, even though
he or she is not? (2)
* Does this become a plot point? (1)
* Is your character the age you would like to be? (1)
* Is the character beautiful or handsome? (1)
* VERY beautiful or handsome? (1)
* Do one or more of your other characters find this character immediately extremely attractive? (1)
* Do other characters see the character as a threat due to his or her extreme good looks or effect
on those of the opposite sex? (2)
* Is the character plain? (-2)
* Is this commented on by other characters who are not motivated by jealousy? (-1)
* Is this changed somehow by the end of the story? (2)
* Is the character ugly? (-3)
* Is this commented on by other characters who are not motivated by jealousy? (-1)
* Is this changed somehow by the end of the story? (3)
* Is the character overweight? (-3)
* Is this commented on by other characters who are not motivated by jealousy? (-1)
* Is this changed somehow by the end of the story? (4)
* Does the character have a non-standard eye color for no good reason (such as species)? (2)
* Does this become a plot point? (2)
* Are the character's eyes emerald green, pure blue, or warm brown? (1)
* Do they change color when the character is feeling profound emotion? (1)
* Does the character have really nice hair that you describe more than once? (1)
* Is the character's hair raven black, pure white, gold, or flaming red? (1)
* Does the character have notably golden, dusky, or pale skin? (1)
* Does the character have an accent that you do not share? (1)
* Because the story takes place somewhere where everyone has that accent? (-1)
* Is the character's voice exceptionally attractive or dulcet? (1)
* Does the character have a strange scar or marking (such as a tattoo) that is noticed by another
character? (1)
* Is the character deaf, mute, or both? (1)
* Is this changed somehow by the end of the story? (3)
* Is the character otherwise physically disabled? (-2)
* Is the character mentally challenged? (-2)
SECTION 3: History
* Is the character the long-lost child or decendant of anybody? (2)
* Of another character? (5)
* Was the character adopted, or otherwise not raised by his or her own parents? (1)
* Is the character the last surviving member of any species, organization, or family? (1)
* Add points for each aspect seen somewhere during the character's life:
- abandoned by caregivers (1)
- born or forced into slavery (1)
- born or raised in extreme poverty (1)
- sole survivor of a calamity (2)
- physical abuse (2)
- sexual abuse by a caregiver (3)
- rape (3)
- member of a despised or pariah class or race (1, 2 if the story focuses on overcoming this)
- illigitimate birth (2)
- parent of an illigitimate child (1 each)
- any other life experience inspired by V.C. Andrews (3)
- death or death equivalent (3)
- resurrection from death (10)
* Does the character suffer from guilt about something terrible that he or she did in the past? (1)
* Do the other characters eventually convince him or her that it was not his or her fault? (1)
* IS it the character's fault? (-1)
* Does the character share your religious beliefs? (1)
* Did the character have an unusual birth or an unusual experience in early infancy? (i.e., abducted, placed
in a basket and set afloat, visited by Three Weirdos, etc.) (1)
* Does the character have a twin, a clone, or a sibling of the same gender? (2)
* About whom you intend to write a story later? (2)
* Does the character have a very good singing voice? (2)
* Or play an instrument amazingly well? (2)
* Like the harp, the dulcimer, or any other antiquated instrument? (2)
* Does the character have better (that is, more sophisticated) taste in music than you do? (1)
* Does the character have the same profession you have? (1)
* Does the character have a profession you WISH you had? (1)
* Is the character royalty of any description? (3)
* And he or she doesn't know it? (3)
*Does everyone wind up liking the character? (1)
* Even though she's showing them up and correcting them all the time? (1)
SECTION 4: The Voodoo You Do
* Is the character any inherently magical race? (1)
* Is the character extraordinarily powerful for a member of this race? (1)
* Does the character come from a different world or dimension? (Heaven and Hell count.) (1)
* Does the character, not being inherently magical by species, have magic anyway? (2)
* Did the character gain special powers upon reaching puberty? (1)
* Does the character have telekinesis or telepathy? (Twins count.) (2)
* Does the character just "know things?" (2)
* Can the character fly? (1)
* Without the aid of wings? (1)
* Can the character heal with a touch or a thought? (1)
* Do animals (particularly fuzzy ones) instincively like or respond to the character? (2)
* Does the character have a horse? (Substitute 'horse' for 'bird' or 'wolf' as needed) (1)
* A white horse? (1)
* A black horse? (1)
* That she can talk to? (1)
* And it talks back? (1)
* Only to the character? (1)
* Telepathically? (1)
* Does the character have a perceptible aura of power? (1)
* Of goodness? (1)
* Of evil? (-1)
* Is the character the smartest character in the story? (1)
* The best looking? (1)
* The most powerful? (1)
* The best fighter? (1)
* The only person from his or her village or culture or species to be trained in fighting? (2)
* Because he or she was just so talented? (1)
* That he or she was taken on by the super-talented master fighter? (1)
* Until he or she surpassed him? (2)
SECTION 5: The Love Connection
* Does the character fall in love with another character at some point in the story? (1)
* With more than one character? (1)
* Does the character have sex with another character at some point in the story? (1)
* With more than one character? (1 each)
* Does the character get married at any point? (1)
* Does the story end with the character's wedding? (2)
* Do all of the other characters attend? (2)
SECTION 6: The Real World
* Would you like to be friends with the character if you met in real life? (1)
* Would you dislike the character if you met them in real life? (-2)
* Do you think everyone who reads the story should like the character? (1)
* If someone doesn't like the character, do you take it as a personal attack on you? (1)
* Do you ever pretend, if just to yourself, that you ARE the character? (1)
SECTION 7: The Fiendish Plot
* Is the character the main character of the story? (2)
* When the character is introduced, is he or she immediately, or after a few pages of tense
plotting, admitted into the group of other characters? (1)
* Does the character manage to develop a relationship with an otherwise villanous character, and
through this relationship, reform the other character? (2)
* Does the villain became evil again after losing the character, but retain some last
vestige of goodness, evidenced by one selfless action at the end of the story? (4)
* Is the character transformed into a magical being? (4)
* Is the character happier in his or her new form? (1)
* Do the other characters like the character better in his or her new form? (1)
* Do you wish you could be transformed, for the neat powers? (1)
* Does the character save the day, or another character's life? (2)
* Through magical intervention? (1)
* Through dying? (3)
* Through almost dying? (1)
* Does everyone go into mourning? (1)
* Does the character save a life by weeping over the recently expired corpse? (3)
* Do you plan to write more stories revolving around this character? (2)
* Do you plan to write more stories revolving around this character's children? (2)
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SCORING
0-22 points: This is not a Mary Sue.
22-33 points: Borderline; could go either way depending on the author's skill.
34-45 points: Mary Sue. Proceed with the greatest caution.
46+ points: Reconsider your character and plot. Please.
"If scientists and inventors who develop disease cures and useful technologies don't get lifetime royalties, I'd like to know what fucking rationale you have for some guy getting lifetime royalties for writing an episode of Full House." - Mike Wong
"The present air situation in the Pacific is entirely the result of fighting a fifth rate air power." - U.S. Navy Memo - 24 July 1944
"The present air situation in the Pacific is entirely the result of fighting a fifth rate air power." - U.S. Navy Memo - 24 July 1944
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So by this scoring, ADM Mark Sheppard of Imperial Phoenix is:
Is the character the same gender as you? (1)
Is your character the age you would like to be? (1)
Is the character plain? (-2)
Was the character adopted, or otherwise not raised by his or her own parents? (1)
Does the character have a profession you WISH you had? (1)
Would you like to be friends with the character if you met in real life? (1)
Is the character the main character of the story? (2)
TOTAL: 5
0-22 points: This is not a Mary Sue.
Is the character the same gender as you? (1)
Is your character the age you would like to be? (1)
Is the character plain? (-2)
Was the character adopted, or otherwise not raised by his or her own parents? (1)
Does the character have a profession you WISH you had? (1)
Would you like to be friends with the character if you met in real life? (1)
Is the character the main character of the story? (2)
TOTAL: 5
0-22 points: This is not a Mary Sue.
"If scientists and inventors who develop disease cures and useful technologies don't get lifetime royalties, I'd like to know what fucking rationale you have for some guy getting lifetime royalties for writing an episode of Full House." - Mike Wong
"The present air situation in the Pacific is entirely the result of fighting a fifth rate air power." - U.S. Navy Memo - 24 July 1944
"The present air situation in the Pacific is entirely the result of fighting a fifth rate air power." - U.S. Navy Memo - 24 July 1944
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Otho Niccoletti from my "Scattered Earth" fic is a 16.
No Mary Sue for me!
No Mary Sue for me!
Stuart: The only problem is, I'm losing track of which universe I'm in.
You kinda look like Jesus. With a lightsaber.- Peregrin Toker
You kinda look like Jesus. With a lightsaber.- Peregrin Toker
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Lessee...CMDR. Nathan Yates from Imperial Phoenix: Revenge and Loyalty is:
Is the character the same gender as you?(1)
Is the character a teenager or in his or her early twenties? (1)
(Only when the story begins...this thing is supposed to span at least 20 years)
* Are the character's eyes emerald green, pure blue, or warm brown? (1)
(WTF does this have to do with the price of tea in China?)
Does the character have a profession you WISH you had? (1)
Does the character fall in love with another character at some point in the story? (1)
* With more than one character? (1)
* Does the character get married at any point? (1)
(Supposed to happen at some point...IF I ever get around to it.)
Would you like to be friends with the character if you met in real life? (1)
10 points. No Mary-Sue for me!
Is the character the same gender as you?(1)
Is the character a teenager or in his or her early twenties? (1)
(Only when the story begins...this thing is supposed to span at least 20 years)
* Are the character's eyes emerald green, pure blue, or warm brown? (1)
(WTF does this have to do with the price of tea in China?)
Does the character have a profession you WISH you had? (1)
Does the character fall in love with another character at some point in the story? (1)
* With more than one character? (1)
* Does the character get married at any point? (1)
(Supposed to happen at some point...IF I ever get around to it.)
Would you like to be friends with the character if you met in real life? (1)
10 points. No Mary-Sue for me!
`If I knew that a man was coming to my house with the fixed intention of doing me good, I would run for my life.`--Henry David Thoreau
"The beatings will continue until morale improves"
There is no problem which cannot be solved through the liberal use of napalm."
ASVS'er better known as Nathan Yates
"The beatings will continue until morale improves"
There is no problem which cannot be solved through the liberal use of napalm."
ASVS'er better known as Nathan Yates
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The eyes thing isn't "Are the eyes Blue, Green, or Brown?" But specifically PURE blue, EMERALD Green, or WARM brown."
Like the hair color. Black hair is ok, describing it as RAVEN black is not.
Like the hair color. Black hair is ok, describing it as RAVEN black is not.
Stuart: The only problem is, I'm losing track of which universe I'm in.
You kinda look like Jesus. With a lightsaber.- Peregrin Toker
You kinda look like Jesus. With a lightsaber.- Peregrin Toker
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I wonder if "Fecal Brown" is ok
ISARMA: Daikaiju Coordinator: Just Add Radiation
Justice League- Molly Hayes: Respect Hats or Freakin' Else!
Browncoat
Supernatural Taisen - "[This Story] is essentially "Wouldn't it be awesome if this happened?" Followed by explosions."
Reviewing movies is a lot like Paleontology: The Evidence is there...but no one seems to agree upon it.
"God! Are you so bored that you enjoy seeing us humans suffer?! Why can't you let this poor man live happily with his son! What kind of God are you, crushing us like ants?!" - Kyoami, Ran
Justice League- Molly Hayes: Respect Hats or Freakin' Else!
Browncoat
Supernatural Taisen - "[This Story] is essentially "Wouldn't it be awesome if this happened?" Followed by explosions."
Reviewing movies is a lot like Paleontology: The Evidence is there...but no one seems to agree upon it.
"God! Are you so bored that you enjoy seeing us humans suffer?! Why can't you let this poor man live happily with his son! What kind of God are you, crushing us like ants?!" - Kyoami, Ran
GAH!!
Teamhair NicIomhair-Tahalshia is a 56!!
But I'd hate to see what Nitram, Blackthorne, or Philedelphia Tahalshia would add up to....
Teamhair NicIomhair-Tahalshia is a 56!!
But I'd hate to see what Nitram, Blackthorne, or Philedelphia Tahalshia would add up to....
Nitram, slightly high on cough syrup: Do you know you're beautiful?
Me: Nope, that's why I have you around to tell me.
Nitram: You -are- beautiful. Anyone tries to tell you otherwise kill them.
"A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not preserved, except in memory. LLAP" -- Leonard Nimoy, last Tweet
Me: Nope, that's why I have you around to tell me.
Nitram: You -are- beautiful. Anyone tries to tell you otherwise kill them.
"A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not preserved, except in memory. LLAP" -- Leonard Nimoy, last Tweet
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Re: The Mary Sue Test
This should be funny. Once for the giant walking Plot Device, named Nitram. Maybe I'll do one later for Phil, who is probably the saddest example of a fantasy hero around.MKSheppard wrote:The Mary Sue Litmus Test FOR FANTASY FICTION
I figure a god whose slowly becoming mortal because no one believes in him is a 'non-human'.SECTION 1: What's In A Name
* Is the character's name an unusual spelling of a more common name or word? (1)
SECTION 2: Here's Lookin' At You
* Is the character the same gender as you? (1)
* Is the character any non-human race? (1)
Lessee... Main character born and raised in Lousiana.. Will he have my accent? Noooo...* Is the character plain? (-2)
* Is this commented on by other characters who are not motivated by jealousy? (-1)
* Does the character have an accent that you do not share? (1)
* Because the story takes place somewhere where everyone has that accent? (-1)
Does completely fucking batshit insane count?* Is the character mentally challenged? (-2)
Being forced to incarnate as little more than a mortal is pretty 'death equivalent' for godlings. Or possibly the equivalent of being slapped with a wet fish.SECTION 3: History
* Add points for each aspect seen somewhere during the character's life:
- death or death equivalent (3)
Being the incarnation of creation and destruction gives bad guilt trips.* Does the character suffer from guilt about something terrible that he or she did in the past? (1)
* IS it the character's fault? (-1)
Cause we all know a sci-fi character is a Mary Sue if he can use the supertechnology![/Sarcasm]SECTION 4: The Voodoo You Do
Small God, check.* Is the character any inherently magical race? (1)
* Does the character come from a different world or dimension? (Heaven and Hell count.) (1)
Check.
No. Real main characters struggle through childhood trying not to be a pyro by mistake.* Did the character gain special powers upon reaching puberty?
Yep.* Does the character have telekinesis or telepathy? (Twins count.) (2)
Total score of twelve for the weakened God of Chaos. Hrm, I think this test isn't that good...* Does the character just "know things?"
No. Real heros spend gut-wrenching hours in the library they constructed.
Check.SECTION 5: The Love Connection
* Does the character fall in love with another character at some point in the story? (1)
* Does the character have sex with another character at some point in the story? (1)
* Does the character get married at any point? (1)
I dunno. Would you want to stand close to a guy who personifies every destructive force in existance, with only the mild reassurance that he also personifies the creation in those forces wake?SECTION 6: The Real World
* Would you dislike the character if you met them in real life? (-2)
Shocking. A story with a main character. Such terrible writing.SECTION 7: The Fiendish Plot
* Is the character the main character of the story? (2)
Too late.* Do you plan to write more stories revolving around this character? (2)
* Do you plan to write more stories revolving around this character's children? (2)
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SCORING
0-22 points: This is not a Mary Sue.
Manic Progressive: A liberal who violently swings from anger at politicos to despondency over them.
Out Of Context theatre: Ron Paul has repeatedly said he's not a racist. - Destructinator XIII on why Ron Paul isn't racist.
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Re: The Mary Sue Test
AHEM!!!SirNitram wrote:Total score of twelve for the weakened God of Chaos. Hrm, I think this test isn't that good...-------------------------------------------------
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0-22 points: This is not a Mary Sue.
You forgot a few, m'dear.
Oh my.. Nitram/Martin. Nah, not named for you at all. Unusual? Nah, couldn't be. He chose it himself? Sure, a Small God of Chaos wouldn't name himself. And you don't wish for the name, you *are* the name!Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2004 7:12 pm Post subject: The Mary Sue Test
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The Mary Sue Litmus Test FOR FANTASY FICTION
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SECTION 1: What's In A Name
* Is the character named after you? (10, automatic Mary Sue.)
* Is the character's name an unusual spelling of a more common name or word? (1)
* Is the character's name unusual in another way? (1)
* A name the character chose for him or herself? (1)
* Does the character have a really cool name that you wish you had? (1)
Shall I go on, or will you tally it CORRECTLY this time?
Nitram, slightly high on cough syrup: Do you know you're beautiful?
Me: Nope, that's why I have you around to tell me.
Nitram: You -are- beautiful. Anyone tries to tell you otherwise kill them.
"A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not preserved, except in memory. LLAP" -- Leonard Nimoy, last Tweet
Me: Nope, that's why I have you around to tell me.
Nitram: You -are- beautiful. Anyone tries to tell you otherwise kill them.
"A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not preserved, except in memory. LLAP" -- Leonard Nimoy, last Tweet
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Re: The Mary Sue Test
I wouldn't want to be named Nitram. It's a silly name. And no, he didn't pick it. I wrote this all down.. Now if I could only find it all, I could prove it.LadyTevar wrote:AHEM!!!SirNitram wrote:Total score of twelve for the weakened God of Chaos. Hrm, I think this test isn't that good...-------------------------------------------------
SCORING
0-22 points: This is not a Mary Sue.
You forgot a few, m'dear.
Oh my.. Nitram/Martin. Nah, not named for you at all. Unusual? Nah, couldn't be. He chose it himself? Sure, a Small God of Chaos wouldn't name himself. And you don't wish for the name, you *are* the name!
Manic Progressive: A liberal who violently swings from anger at politicos to despondency over them.
Out Of Context theatre: Ron Paul has repeatedly said he's not a racist. - Destructinator XIII on why Ron Paul isn't racist.
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Re: The Mary Sue Test
So you're trying to claim that you, Martin, have a character named Nitram, and he's *NOT* named for you?SirNitram wrote:I wouldn't want to be named Nitram. It's a silly name. And no, he didn't pick it. I wrote this all down.. Now if I could only find it all, I could prove it.LadyTevar wrote:AHEM!!!SirNitram wrote: Total score of twelve for the weakened God of Chaos. Hrm, I think this test isn't that good...
You forgot a few, m'dear.
Oh my.. Nitram/Martin. Nah, not named for you at all. Unusual? Nah, couldn't be. He chose it himself? Sure, a Small God of Chaos wouldn't name himself. And you don't wish for the name, you *are* the name!
Pull another one, it's got bells on it.
Nitram, slightly high on cough syrup: Do you know you're beautiful?
Me: Nope, that's why I have you around to tell me.
Nitram: You -are- beautiful. Anyone tries to tell you otherwise kill them.
"A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not preserved, except in memory. LLAP" -- Leonard Nimoy, last Tweet
Me: Nope, that's why I have you around to tell me.
Nitram: You -are- beautiful. Anyone tries to tell you otherwise kill them.
"A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not preserved, except in memory. LLAP" -- Leonard Nimoy, last Tweet
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Re: The Mary Sue Test
No stealing my sayings, you aren't sufficiently British for that one.LadyTevar wrote:So you're trying to claim that you, Martin, have a character named Nitram, and he's *NOT* named for you?
Pull another one, it's got bells on it.
And no, Nitram Tahalshia is not 'naming a character after myself'. There's, for largest reason, the staggering fact my last name bears no resemblence, not even in lingual roots, to the name Tahalshia. Is it rearranging the spelling of a popular common name? Yes. Is it naming it for me? No. That is specifically referring to authors who put their entire name onto their main characters.. Which is quite common.
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Out Of Context theatre: Ron Paul has repeatedly said he's not a racist. - Destructinator XIII on why Ron Paul isn't racist.
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Re: The Mary Sue Test
Going for my STGOD character, which is obviously an SI. Now, ignoring the automatic MS for the first point...
+12, ignoring the automatic qualify, no, not an MSMKSheppard wrote: * Is the character named after you? (10, automatic Mary Sue.)
* Is the character the same gender as you? (1)
* Is the character any non-human race? (1)
* Is the character plain? (-2)
* Does the character have an accent that you do not share? (1)
* Because the story takes place somewhere where everyone has that accent? (-1)
* Is the character any inherently magical race? (1)
* Would you like to be friends with the character if you met in real life? (1)
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Hmmm... using my eponymous character from Suicide Squad...
Damn.MKSheppard wrote:* Is the character named after you? (10, automatic Mary Sue.)
Well... duh...* And it's yours? (10 again. Bad, bad writer.)
YES! But only because it was my name first.* Have you considered naming your child, your pet, or yourself after the character? (1)
Er... sort of?* Is the character a teenager or in his or her early twenties? (1)
Yes. I believe I referred to him as a "small, dark-looking man."* Is the character plain? (-2)
Only on the inside.* Is the character ugly? (-3)
Yes, secretly Sgt. Pablo Sanchez has erectile disfunction. I hope that changes your entire view of Suicide Squad, dear readers.* Is the character otherwise physically disabled? (-2)
I resent your implication, sir.* Is the character mentally challenged? (-2)
Of himself, yes.* Is the character the long-lost child or decendant of anybody? (2)
* Of another character? (5)
Well, he didn't have any parents.* Was the character adopted, or otherwise not raised by his or her own parents? (1)
He personally wasn't, but...- resurrection from death (10)
Guilt? What's that?* Does the character suffer from guilt about something terrible that he or she did in the past? (1)
Probably.* IS it the character's fault? (-1)
Yes, as in what beliefs?* Does the character share your religious beliefs? (1)
Yes. Clone.* Did the character have an unusual birth or an unusual experience in early infancy? (i.e., abducted, placed in a basket and set afloat, visited by Three Weirdos, etc.) (1)
Lots and lots of 'em. Wow.* Does the character have a twin, a clone, or a sibling of the same gender? (2)
No.* About whom you intend to write a story later? (2)
YES.* Does the character have a profession you WISH you had? (1)
At the end of the story, he kills almost all his friends at the rest of them hate him and describe him as evil. I should get -1 for that.*Does everyone wind up liking the character? (1)
Yes... clone.* Does the character just "know things?" (2)
Bwahah.* Of evil? (-1)
I should also get -1 for this.* Is the character the smartest character in the story? (1)
That would be Kynes.* The best looking? (1)
No. I should get -1 for that, the most "powerful" character (highest ranked) which actually appears is Deimos Anomaly* The most powerful? (1)
Gets his ass kicked by a computer geek (who was admittedly also a Ubiqtorate assassin clone) despite having the advantage of a weapon.* The best fighter? (1)
God no.* Does the character have sex with another character at some point in the story? (1)
No. He's an asshole... but so am I.* Would you like to be friends with the character if you met in real life? (1)
Yes. I do dislike the person he's based on, as well.* Would you dislike the character if you met them in real life? (-2)
They should hate him. Again, a -1 I deserve but don't get.* Do you think everyone who reads the story should like the character? (1)
Yes. I relish it.* If someone doesn't like the character, do you take it as a personal attack on you? (1)
... how did you know?!?* Do you ever pretend, if just to yourself, that you ARE the character? (1)
Indeed.* Is the character the main character of the story? (2)
Well, he sort of starts as a member of the titular group.* When the character is introduced, is he or she immediately, or after a few pages of tense plotting, admitted into the group of other characters? (1)
Hah. No.* Does the character manage to develop a relationship with an otherwise villanous character, and through this relationship, reform the other character? (2)
Does this count if the Mary Sue being tested, the main character, and the villain are the same person, and the action is merely "not evil" rather than "selfless?"* Does the villain became evil again after losing the character, but retain some last vestige of goodness, evidenced by one selfless action at the end of the story? (4)
Well, yeah, but it doesn't count. 'Cos he killed all the others.* Does the character save the day, or another character's life? (2)
No.* Do you plan to write more stories revolving around this character? (2)
Not gonna add it up.0-22 points: This is not a Mary Sue.
22-33 points: Borderline; could go either way depending on the author's skill.
34-45 points: Mary Sue. Proceed with the greatest caution.
46+ points: Reconsider your character and plot. Please.
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Re: The Mary Sue Test
I've written a grand total of one fantasy story, although the present stuff I work on could be considered fantasy, in the same way that Star Wars could be considered fantasy. Anyways...
* A name the character chose for him or herself? (1)
* Is the character any non-human race? (1)
* Is the character beautiful or handsome? (1)
* Is the character plain? (-2)
* Does the character have notably golden, dusky, or pale skin? (1)
* Does the character share your religious beliefs? (1)
* Does the character have a profession you WISH you had? (1)
* Is the character any inherently magical race? (1)
* Does the character come from a different world or dimension? (Heaven and Hell count.) (1)
* Is the character the best fighter? (1)
* Does the character fall in love with another character at some point in the story? (1)
* Would you like to be friends with the character if you met in real life? (1)
* Does the character save the day, or another character's life? (2)
* Do you plan to write more stories revolving around this character? (2)
13: This is not a Mary Sue.
* A name the character chose for him or herself? (1)
* Is the character any non-human race? (1)
* Is the character beautiful or handsome? (1)
* Is the character plain? (-2)
* Does the character have notably golden, dusky, or pale skin? (1)
* Does the character share your religious beliefs? (1)
* Does the character have a profession you WISH you had? (1)
* Is the character any inherently magical race? (1)
* Does the character come from a different world or dimension? (Heaven and Hell count.) (1)
* Is the character the best fighter? (1)
* Does the character fall in love with another character at some point in the story? (1)
* Would you like to be friends with the character if you met in real life? (1)
* Does the character save the day, or another character's life? (2)
* Do you plan to write more stories revolving around this character? (2)
13: This is not a Mary Sue.
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Re: The Mary Sue Test
I will, however, put my most recent (and oldest) character of mass devestation and desctruction through the paces...
SECTION 2: Here's Lookin' At You
SECTION 3: History
SECTION 4: The Voodoo You Do
Quite easily, it's sad to say. But that's the way he was made...
SECTION 5: The Love Connection
SECTION 6: The Real World
SECTION 7: The Fiendish Plot
31 points! BORDERLINE!
Trenchin Macgrove. The only part about it that's unusual is the fact that the last name isn't McGrove* Is the character's name unusual in another way? (1)
The working title is "The Legend of Trenchin Macgrove"* Is the character's name the title of the story, or is the title a description of the
character? (i.e., "The Girl Who Could Fly") (3)
A few years, but only because he didn't have a name for a few years.* Did you spend more than a day looking for just the right name? (1)
SECTION 2: Here's Lookin' At You
Does robot/AI count as a race?* Is the character any non-human race? (1)
Yes, most AIs don't have free will. Him and his "family" do.* Is the character not subject to limitations normally put upon members of his or her species?
(i.e., a human who is immortal, a vampire who does not die at dawn, a fairy who is not vulnerable
to iron) (4)
Does the fact that the character inspires fear in every single thing, entity and creature he encounters count?* Is the character ugly? (-3)
* Is this commented on by other characters who are not motivated by jealousy? (-1)
He has no accent whatsoever, unlike myself, who lives in New England. I have whatever accent comes with that.* Does the character have an accent that you do not share? (1)
* Does the character have a strange scar or marking (such as a tattoo) that is noticed by another
character? (1)
Does completely deranged for seventy years count?* Is the character mentally challenged? (-2)
SECTION 3: History
Does exterminating a planet, and then making sure that there were no survivors count as "sole survivor of a calamity?" If it does, I get Mary Sue because he did that so many times...* Add points for each aspect seen somewhere during the character's life:
- sole survivor of a calamity (2)
Nobody likes robots, but he doesn't care.- member of a despised or pariah class or race (1, 2 if the story focuses on overcoming this)
Yes!- death or death equivalent (3)
- resurrection from death (10)
Yes, as he asks for forgivness from someone.* Does the character suffer from guilt about something terrible that he or she did in the past? (1)
* IS it the character's fault? (-1)
Yes. None.* Does the character share your religious beliefs? (1)
Yes.* Does the character have a twin, a clone, or a sibling of the same gender? (2)
SECTION 4: The Voodoo You Do
Well, I did mention plantary destruction.* Is the character extraordinarily powerful for a member of this race? (1)
It's sci-fi.* Does the character come from a different world or dimension? (Heaven and Hell count.) (1)
JEDI MIND TRICKS! WHOO-HOO!!!* Does the character, not being inherently magical by species, have magic anyway? (2)
Yes. He even makes his own damn wings.* Can the character fly? (1)
Does forcing somebody to become permanantly immortal count?* Can the character heal with a touch or a thought? (1)
* The best fighter? (1)* The most powerful? (1)
Quite easily, it's sad to say. But that's the way he was made...
SECTION 5: The Love Connection
SECTION 6: The Real World
I would run for my life, except I knew it wouldn't matter.* Would you dislike the character if you met them in real life? (-2)
SECTION 7: The Fiendish Plot
The book's named after him, afterall.* Is the character the main character of the story? (2)
31 points! BORDERLINE!
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Is the character named after you? (10, automatic Mary Sue.)
Did you spend no time at all looking for the right name, because all of your characters have
the same name? (2)
And it's yours? (10 again. Bad, bad writer.)
Is the character the same gender as you? (1)
Is your character the age you would like to be? (1)
Is the character plain? (-2)
Does the character have a profession you WISH you had? (1)
Would you like to be friends with the character if you met in real life? (1)
If someone doesn't like the character, do you take it as a personal attack on you? (1)
Do you ever pretend, if just to yourself, that you ARE the character? (1)
Is the character the main character of the story? (2)
Do you plan to write more stories revolving around this character? (2)
Is the character named after you? (10, automatic Mary Sue.)
Did you spend no time at all looking for the right name, because all of your characters have
the same name? (2)
And it's yours? (10 again. Bad, bad writer.)
Is the character the same gender as you? (1)
Is your character the age you would like to be? (1)
Is the character plain? (-2)
Does the character have a profession you WISH you had? (1)
Would you like to be friends with the character if you met in real life? (1)
If someone doesn't like the character, do you take it as a personal attack on you? (1)
Do you ever pretend, if just to yourself, that you ARE the character? (1)
Is the character the main character of the story? (2)
Do you plan to write more stories revolving around this character? (2)
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Re: The Mary Sue Test
Just for shits and giggles...
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22-33 points: Borderline; could go either way depending on the author's skill.
Not unless you count ancient Persian kings...SECTION 1: What's In A Name
* Is the character's name unusual in another way? (1)
SECTION 2: Here's Lookin' At You
* Is the character the same gender as you? (1)
Hum, does genetic manipulation count???* Is the character not subject to limitations normally put upon members of his or her species?
(i.e., a human who is immortal, a vampire who does not die at dawn, a fairy who is not vulnerable
to iron) (4)
Hum... being bald, having leather-type skin, weird eyes, and several deep scars count???* Is the character ugly? (-3)
* Is this commented on by other characters who are not motivated by jealousy? (-1)
* Does the character have a strange scar or marking (such as a tattoo) that is noticed by another
character? (1)
SECTION 3: History
* Was the character adopted, or otherwise not raised by his or her own parents? (1)
* Is the character the last surviving member of any species, organization, or family? (1)
* Add points for each aspect seen somewhere during the character's life:
- sole survivor of a calamity (2)
- death or death equivalent (3)
Yeah, 2 metres tall, and weighing 130 Kilos can make a difference...SECTION 4: The Voodoo You Do
* Is the character extraordinarily powerful for a member of this race? (1)
* Does the character have a perceptible aura of power? (1)
* The best fighter? (1)
SECTION 5: The Love Connection
* Does the character fall in love with another character at some point in the story? (1)
* With more than one character? (1)
* Does the character have sex with another character at some point in the story? (1)
* With more than one character? (1 each)
SECTION 6: The Real World
* Would you like to be friends with the character if you met in real life? (1)
* Do you ever pretend, if just to yourself, that you ARE the character? (1)
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* Is the character the main character of the story? (2)
* Does the character save the day, or another character's life? (2)
* Do you plan to write more stories revolving around this character? (2)
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22-33 points: Borderline; could go either way depending on the author's skill.
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Reiyana (from the story that STILL doesn't have a title) got a 14. Not bad.
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Jesus Christ, I'm slow. So that's why it's Nitram. Pretty cool name.LadyTevar wrote:So you're trying to claim that you, Martin, have a character named Nitram, and he's *NOT* named for you?SirNitram wrote:I wouldn't want to be named Nitram. It's a silly name. And no, he didn't pick it. I wrote this all down.. Now if I could only find it all, I could prove it.LadyTevar wrote: AHEM!!!
You forgot a few, m'dear.
Oh my.. Nitram/Martin. Nah, not named for you at all. Unusual? Nah, couldn't be. He chose it himself? Sure, a Small God of Chaos wouldn't name himself. And you don't wish for the name, you *are* the name!
Pull another one, it's got bells on it.
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Re: The Mary Sue Test
And he still claims Nitram's not named for himCrimsonRaine wrote:Jesus Christ, I'm slow. So that's why it's Nitram. Pretty cool name.LadyTevar wrote: So you're trying to claim that you, Martin, have a character named Nitram, and he's *NOT* named for you?
Pull another one, it's got bells on it.
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Nitram, slightly high on cough syrup: Do you know you're beautiful?
Me: Nope, that's why I have you around to tell me.
Nitram: You -are- beautiful. Anyone tries to tell you otherwise kill them.
"A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not preserved, except in memory. LLAP" -- Leonard Nimoy, last Tweet
Me: Nope, that's why I have you around to tell me.
Nitram: You -are- beautiful. Anyone tries to tell you otherwise kill them.
"A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not preserved, except in memory. LLAP" -- Leonard Nimoy, last Tweet
I'd like to suggest something:
We should flesh this list out a bit more and sticky it in the forum to avoid the promulgation of Mary Sues.
A few of my suggestions for addittions:
Does the character have a magic sword? (1)
That is noticably different from a normal sword?(1)
That is longer than 1 meter/3 feet? (2)
That they can talk to (1)
and it talks back? (1)
Telepathically? (1)
Only to the character? (1)
Does the character have a completely ordinary sword, with no magic, no name, and no special history whatsoever? (-4)
Does the character achieve a high rank (General, etc.) in less then half the time it took others to achieve it? (2)
While still in their teens or early twenties? (2)
Because they had a powerful parent who got them a rank? (-4)
Does the character command their own unit? (1)
That serves as their elite bodyguard? (1)
Which the character never needs because the character is so tough?(2)
Which does all the fighting because the character is a coward? (-4)
Is the character such a good fighter that they can perform some trivial action (such as reading or drinking tea) while in the middle of combat? (3)
And continually come out unscathed?(2)
We should flesh this list out a bit more and sticky it in the forum to avoid the promulgation of Mary Sues.
A few of my suggestions for addittions:
Does the character have a magic sword? (1)
That is noticably different from a normal sword?(1)
That is longer than 1 meter/3 feet? (2)
That they can talk to (1)
and it talks back? (1)
Telepathically? (1)
Only to the character? (1)
Does the character have a completely ordinary sword, with no magic, no name, and no special history whatsoever? (-4)
Does the character achieve a high rank (General, etc.) in less then half the time it took others to achieve it? (2)
While still in their teens or early twenties? (2)
Because they had a powerful parent who got them a rank? (-4)
Does the character command their own unit? (1)
That serves as their elite bodyguard? (1)
Which the character never needs because the character is so tough?(2)
Which does all the fighting because the character is a coward? (-4)
Is the character such a good fighter that they can perform some trivial action (such as reading or drinking tea) while in the middle of combat? (3)
And continually come out unscathed?(2)