Beneath the Surface (Gundam/Transformers Crossover)

Darth Fanboy · Post by **Darth Fanboy** » 2005-08-02 04:25am

Author's Note: Well this is a random idea that turned into an interesting little project for me upon my return from three days of binge drinking in San Diego. Inspired by the convention center, home of the San Diego Comic Con, I present to you: Beneath the Surface.

0079 UC Calendar, The surprise attacks carried out by the mobile suits of the Principality of Zeon and the subsequent reprisals by the Earth Federation have left billions dead. Although the ferocious nature of the fighting culminated in the Antarctic treaty, setting humane guidelines for the fighting, there is still no end in sight to the most brutal conflict in the history of humankind.

Despite several initial disadvantages the Principality has gained a firm upper hand in the fighting using mobile suits. Although humanity had failed to scale up mecha technology almost routinely up until that point, the Zeons were somehow able to make a technological breakthrough in the creation of the first Zaku mobile suits. Later, with the development of the Zaku II, it seemed as if there was nothing in the Federation's arsenal that could stop them. That is, until the development of Project V.

The results of Project V were given form in the RX-78 Gundam mobile suit. Not only had the Federation managed to develop a working mobile suit of their own, but they had managed to build one that far surpassed the performances of the Zakus it was assuredly going to face in combat. The only downside is that this suit was still not close enough to mass production, while Zeon was producing mobile suits en masse using captured resources from occupied territory on Earth.

The improbable happened when Zeon discovered the components of the V project in the Side 7 colony and attacked, only to be repelled by a young boy who had nothing but technical aptitude and luck on his side, the career of Amuro Ray had taken off by the time the boy had even first put on a Federation uniform. The higher ups at Zeon would not stand for this.

The Archduke of Zeon, Degwin Zabi, had only recently heard of the news and already he was beginning to get upset. He had been promised a quick end to the war and control of the entire Earth Sphere. It was time to address his concerns to those who had promised him swift victory. Beneath the metropolis that was his military headquarters, Degwin Zabi and a pair of chief guards traveled to a reinforced armored bunker, originally built to house key personnel in case of an impending nuclear attack. However, his cohorts had decided to make it their own central headquarters, in preparation of another impending battle that would make the war in the Earth Sphere look like a child's birthday party.

After navigating a maze of passageways in his limosuine, and a series of elevators, the small convoy that was Zabi's retinue had arrived. The large chamber door was adorned with the deep purple logo of those responsible for Zeon's immediate advantages. All of the technology and military planning, came from behind these doors. The logo itself was a great representation of this, as the hard angles seemed to form the face of the devil himself. A combination of demon and machine that sought to destroy all who would oppose it. The doors slowly opened and the devil's face parted to reveal the real devil inside. they were large enough to accomodate mobile suits, but there were no mobile suits. There were however giant machines...

Seated on a large throne in front of several tactical displays that Zabi could not even understand was Megatron, the architect of the One Year War. One of the most closely guarded of Zeon's secrets was the discovery of alien artificial life forms, secrets that had been witheld from all except those most trusted by the Zabi family. It was then that the unholy alliance had been forged, Megatron had promised Degwin Zabi all of the colonies and Earth, and in exchange when the war was over MEgatron would be allowed unlimited access to Earth's resources. Megatron and his Decepticon soldiers had quitetly snuck into Side 3, where they began teaching Zeon how to build operational and functional mecha based on Cybertronian concepts. Megatron had promised that the war would be over within a month, and that there was no one in this system that could oppose them. Although Megatron and his soldiers could have defeated the Federation on their own, they had chosen to remain hidden lest the people of Earth and Space combine their forces. A war would be the perfect cover to advance their agenda, Megatron had decided.

But something had gone wrong, too many people were getting killed, and Zabi was not about to let MEgatron annhilate the entire human race no matter how much reward was at stake.

"Ah, if it isn't my favorite flesh creature. How goes the process of organic decay this week hmmmm?" Megatron stood at his feet, towering over the diminutive humans. Zabi shouted, even though he knew Megatron's advanced hearing systems would allow him to detect even the slightest whisper, especially if that creep Soundwave was in the room.

"Megatron! I demand an explanation! You said that the war would be over soon, that our mobile suits would march unopposed into the streets of every Federation City and over the smodlering ashes of Jaburo!"

Megatron's playful smile turned into a scowl, if there was one thing he despised about flesh creatures it was their overinflated sense of self importance. One which could rarely be adjusted properly without reducing said creature into its component atoms.

"Megatron always delivers on a promise Degwin Zabi, what trivial concern of yours has so shaken your resolve that you would risk your very life to speak to me right now."

Zabi snapped his fingers and an aide handed him a handful of disks. "I have here in my hand evidence that the Federation has developed its own mobile suit technology. Technology that was supposed to be OURS alone! Have you been dealing behind my back Megatron or is this just an eerie coincidence?"

Megatron tuned his head towards where Soundwave was standing, who immediately deployed Rumble. Rumble walked over towards the humans and raised his hand as if to swat them, causing them all to flinch, before grabbing the disks and handing them to Soundwave. Soundwave analyzed the data and confirmed its authenticity, and then patched the data through a tactical display at Megatron's throne console. Images of the White Mobile Suit popped up on the screen, as the White Mobile suit battled the Zakus that Megatron had designed using basic Cybertronian technology, Megatron's face showed a great anger that Zabi had not seen since his arrival.

Megatron looked at the face of the Gundam, a face he had not seen for millions of years. Yet the familiarity of the face was as clear to him as it had ever been, and although he knew that this Federation mobile suit wasn't his old adversary, he knew that it was his doing. Somehow the Autobots had survived the same catastrophe the Decepticons had, and were now managing to interfere with his plans yet again. Of all the things going through his mind, of all the orders he wanted to give to his minions, there was only one word Megatron was able to say at that point.

"PRIME!"

A Transformers/Gundam Crossover! I'm no Gundam historian, purist, and im not much of a fan but i'll be damned if I don't have a few more ideas for this. I can't promise a lot of updates though. Ciao for now!

Sidewinder · Post by **Sidewinder** » 2005-08-05 04:38pm

That's badass! I wonder if we'll see Transformers adopt forms based on 'Gundam' vehicles, like having Trypticon transform into the Musai.

Oh, Optimus should be more careful with who he chooses as his allies. I've read some 'Gundam' manga, which describes the Earth Federation government as a group of racist assholes who exploited the citizens of the colonies until the Zabis united them in opposition to the Feds. Later, the Feds end up committing genocide-- pumping poison gas into a colony to end a riot against their oppressive rule-- to keep the colonies under control. Optimus would NEVER ally himself with such a group, so you might have to give the Autobots some kind of hold over the Feds, so they wouldn't use Nazi tactics.

While we're talking rewrites, why don't you change Amuro's attitude slightly, so he wouldn't be such a whiny bitch? Have a veteran-- Jazz, maybe?-- be his mentor, so he'd deal with the stress of war better. Have Amuro act like a real man, trying to hide his emotional weaknesses so he wouldn't look bad-- NO WHINING!-- except in the presence of a psychological counsellor. (I was in the military, and I saw counsellors to deal with stress-- trust me, it helps.)

That NOS Guy · Post by **That NOS Guy** » 2005-08-05 05:39pm

Sidewinder wrote: Oh, Optimus should be more careful with who he chooses as his allies. I've read some 'Gundam' manga, which describes the Earth Federation government as a group of racist assholes who exploited the citizens of the colonies until the Zabis united them in opposition to the Feds. Later, the Feds end up committing genocide-- pumping poison gas into a colony to end a riot against their oppressive rule-- to keep the colonies under control. Optimus would NEVER ally himself with such a group, so you might have to give the Autobots some kind of hold over the Feds, so they wouldn't use Nazi tactics.

Actually, the early Earth Federation, while moderately oppressive was fairly liberal in contrast to the Zeon. You're thinkg about the Tians which show up in Zeta Gundam, they're only formed after the devestationg Operation Stardust. If you cut out the Zeon remenants the Feds would likely have never been so facist in the mid 0080s-early 0090's

As for the fanfic, way fucking cool this is just crossover gold man, keep up the good work!

Darth Fanboy · Post by **Darth Fanboy** » 2005-08-06 05:33am

Sidewinder wrote:That's badass! I wonder if we'll see Transformers adopt forms based on 'Gundam' vehicles, like having Trypticon transform into the Musai.

Have you seen one of the newer omega supreme toys? I swear to Jeebus that its a Fed ship.

Oh, Optimus should be more careful with who he chooses as his allies. I've read some 'Gundam' manga, which describes the Earth Federation government as a group of racist assholes who exploited the citizens of the colonies until the Zabis united them in opposition to the Feds.

And i've watched the original 'Gundam' series (the OYW and 0083 are the only two series I enjoyed) and I agree with you wholeheartedly. But the ideologies must compete and perhaps that will be dealt with later.

Later, the Feds end up committing genocide-- pumping poison gas into a colony to end a riot against their oppressive rule-- to keep the colonies under control. Optimus would NEVER ally himself with such a group, so you might have to give the Autobots some kind of hold over the Feds, so they wouldn't use Nazi tactics.

The "One Week War" is over at this point, and the atrocities of the Titans have not yet taken place.

While we're talking rewrites, why don't you change Amuro's attitude slightly, so he wouldn't be such a whiny bitch? Have a veteran-- Jazz, maybe?-- be his mentor, so he'd deal with the stress of war better. Have Amuro act like a real man, trying to hide his emotional weaknesses so he wouldn't look bad-- NO WHINING!-- except in the presence of a psychological counsellor. (I was in the military, and I saw counsellors to deal with stress-- trust me, it helps.)

Amuro is a 15 year kid, he's supposed to be whiny. But the story isn't going to be as White Base centered as the OYW series if it continues as envisioned. Plus, its a transformers series, and Spike Witwicky isn't availiable to fill the role of Bumblebee's whiny companion. Unless....nahhhhh.

So do people actually like this? it isn't getting much in the way of views or feedback it seems.

Sidewinder · Post by **Sidewinder** » 2005-08-06 10:48pm

I can sympathize with your questions regarding the fic's entertainment value, as I almost never get comments on my own fics. But yes, I like it. As for the whining, I think heroes should hid such weaknesses until they're alone, or in the company of a close confidant.

Amuro, as the Fed 'Hero' and 'Ace Pilot', wouldn't be allowed to whine in public, because of the damage to morale. He'd whine in the privacy of his own room, and be comforted by his mother, his best friend, or his lover.

Darth Fanboy · Post by **Darth Fanboy** » 2006-08-09 05:24pm

Author's note. A little late? Or part of an annual tradition perhaps? You decide! Either way here is the second part. Explosions will be due for the third. Inspired by the "Cheesiest Crossover Pitch Ever" thread. ~DF

"We couldn't have asked for a better result General Revil. The RX-78 absolutely steamrolled those zeek bastards."

Revil nodded his agreement but gave a stern glare at his aide de camp, an obscure Colonel that had elevated to his post through the expert handling of paperwork and cushy assignments. More and more officers under his command had taken to using derogatory slurs for the Zeon forces, the last thing he wanted his men to do was dehumanize the enemy in such a manner that could lead to atrocities such as the gas attacks of Sides 1 and 2 early in the war.

"It seems we owe our allies a great thanks. Have our engineering teams completed Operation Archon?"

The Colonel nodded and handed Revil a disk. "Lt. Commander Marsh contacted us less than an hour ago and most of the key components from the Ark have been successfully transferred to Jaburo. The facilities required to begin mass production should be up an running by the end of the month, although it would be sooner if our allies would contribute more than just technical knowledge."

"Colonel, the Autobots are not soldiers under our command. The Earth Federation has made a bargain with them and I intend to honour or side of the agreement without pressuring our potential saviors for more."

The Colonel raised his voice to respond but decided against it. Revil had been the chief representative of the Federation military during the talks and had helped shape the treaty between the Autobots and the Earth Sphere. Arguing against him would prove both difficult to win and detrimental to his career. The last thing he wanted was to be in command of ground forces fighting in northern Russia.

During the treaty the Autobots had pledged technical assistance in weapons development in exchange for the Federation's help in repairing their damaged spacecraft and what little Federation intelligence existed related to the Decepticons. At first Optimus Prime had been quite hesitant, but when Zaku mobile suits began appearing using what appeared to be Cybertronian technology it caused a radical shift in the balance of power. Feeling obligated to restore the balance their wayward cousins had destroyed, the Autobots were now involved for the duration.

The Autobots themselves were busy adapting to their new surroundings at Jaburo, as Federation excavation teams began moving the equipment it was up to the Autobots to escort the equipment, and to secure it from falling into unauthorized hands, Federation or otherwise.

Overseeing the transfer from a fortified cavernous bunker beneath the South American Landscape were Optimus Prime, and his chief technician Wheeljack.

"But Prime, it wouldn't take much longer than a week to have these war factories up and running, we could have this war over in two months, tops." Wheeljack urged.

"I have no doubt that your technical prowess could help the humans become a very powerful fighting force indeed." Prime spoke in a calm and controlled voice as he watched several cranes gingerly lower computer equipment onto a large loader. "However, if we start giving them more help than what the Decepticons are giving the Zeons, then this war will escalate further, and more lives will be lost. Megatron will stop at nothing to win, I suspect that even if we can manufacture better war material he would step into the fighting himself to ensure victory, just like on Cybertron."

Wheeljack cringed, the last time he had seen Megatron personally step into a battle had been back on Cybertron. Over one hundred of his comrades, some of them his closest friends had been torn asunder and their sparks extinguished by Megatron alone. Right before he had detonated the energon bomb that had decimated the civilian population of the city, killing tens of thousands of neutral Cybertronians. Prime looked down at Wheeljack, and placed his hand on his right shoulder.

"So far the Decepticons are holding back what they give Zeon, most likely so that when the Decepticons turn on them later they will still be fighting with inferior weapons. We'll continue to match whatever Megatron throws at us as closely as we can while trying to figure out where the Decepticons are so we can end their involvement ourselves. Hopefully the humans can come to some kind of an agreement."

Wheeljack supressed a sarcastic laugh. "You really think that the humans have it in them to settle this peacefully? It's not like we were able to solve anything back on Cybertron."

Prime hung his head solemnly, regarding the Cybertronian Civil War the most monumental failure of his predecessors, whose legacy he now carried. "I hope so, I would hate for yet another civilization to suffer as we have."

Sidewinder · Post by **Sidewinder** » 2006-08-14 01:39am

Finally! Overall, I think it's a good chapter, with accurate portrayals of the Earth Federation and Autobot sides. Hopefully, we'll be seeing some action soon. (Megatron vs. Amuro's RX-78? Prime vs. Char's Zaku II?)

Prime looked down at Wheeljack, and placed his hand on his right shoulder socket.

Why use the term "shoulder socket"? Is Wheeljack's right arm missing?

Wheeljack supressed a sarcastic laugh. "You really think that the humans have it in them to settle this peacefully? It's not like we were able to solve anything back on Cybertron."

Prime hund his head solemnly, regarding the Cybertronian Civil War the most monumental failure of his predecessors, whose legacy he now carried. "I hope so, I would hate for yet another civilization to suffer as we have."

Excellent quote! You got into Prime's mind quite well.

Darth Fanboy · Post by **Darth Fanboy** » 2006-08-15 02:08pm

Spelling and slight wording alteration to chapter 2 made. Having some difficulty as to how I want to go about #3 but I don't think it will be August of 2007 when it comes out.

Post by **LadyTevar** » 2006-08-15 04:13pm

I hope it's not that long, otherwise I'll have to start hunting you down. I'm still angry at certain people over Certain SG/nBSG crossovers he's not finished yet....

Ritterin Sophia · Post by **Ritterin Sophia** » 2006-08-17 10:16pm

That NOS Guy wrote:Actually, the early Earth Federation, while moderately oppressive was fairly liberal in contrast to the Zeon. You're thinkg about the Tians which show up in Zeta Gundam, they're only formed after the devestationg Operation Stardust. If you cut out the Zeon remenants the Feds would likely have never been so facist in the mid 0080s-early 0090's

Not really, Bask Ohm and Jamitov Hymen (Yes, this is his name) were going to do that anyhow, the purpose of the Zephyranthes and Physalis were to test equipment for a new generation of MS (This was later taken over by the Titans Test Team/T3/Murphy Team and the Gundam HAZEL), the outcome of Operation Stardust merely allowed their plan to progress much more swiftly than before. Remember that Bask and Jamitov were never altruistic men, and the captain of the albion was swiftly punished in a public execution for launching without orders and stealing the Dendrobium Orchis and Stamen.

P.S. If you think Jamitovs name is funny, the letters b and v are treated similarly to l and r, thus Chars alias during Zeta Gundam, Quattro Bajina become Quattro Vagina.

Darth Fanboy · Post by **Darth Fanboy** » 2006-08-18 05:44pm

You do realize you just quoted a post that was well over a year old right?

EDIT:

Is there an official source for Synapse's execution?

That NOS Guy · Post by **That NOS Guy** » 2006-08-18 07:29pm

Darth Fanboy wrote: Is there an official source for Synapse's execution?

I do believe it was in the epilouge of 0083.

General Schatten: Without the Delaz fleet they couldn't have gained any power within the Federation. My assertion that removing the Zeon remenents means no titans and the facist lite policy of the Federation holds.

Darth Fanboy · Post by **Darth Fanboy** » 2006-08-18 07:50pm

Guess i'd better go get the ol tapes and dust off the VCR.

Ritterin Sophia · Post by **Ritterin Sophia** » 2006-08-19 10:06pm

That NOS Guy wrote:General Schatten: Without the Delaz fleet they couldn't have gained any power within the Federation. My assertion that removing the Zeon remenents means no titans and the facist lite policy of the Federation holds.

Think again, Bask and Jamitov were already high-ranking since the death of General Revil by the Solar Ray in 0079, if you remember Bask was the one in charge of the Solar Cannon during Operation Stardust. Gato and Delaz just made it easier for them, without Delaz you'd see more of a paranoia based military build-up, probably going so far as to use the Palpatine-Emperor route to gain power (It would take longewr, but it would happen); on a related note, you never thought that Jamitov and Bask ever had the peoples best interest at heart, right? Bask ordered the gassing of the 30 Bunch Colony because of an UNARMED protest.

Let me guess, you also actually believe that the GP02A was a violation of the Antarctic Treaty?