Well, the casualty list for Iraq is now at 600

Post by **Vympel** » 2004-03-31 05:58am

A "military vehicle" was blown up by an IED directly underneath it, killing 5 US soldiers

Combined with an earlier death,that brings the total to 600. That makes March a damn shitty month, and confirms my earlier thought that February (with it's record low number of deaths) was as much a statistical out-lier as the nightmare month of November (almost 90 IIRC).

Faram · Post by **Faram** » 2004-03-31 08:57am

Damn.

To bad on the ones that their life.

I have mixed feelings about that whole mess.

I don't wish anyone dead but I can understand that the Iraqi isn’t to pleased to be under an occupation force.

Stofsk · Post by **Stofsk** » 2004-03-31 09:52am

600? Wow. I didn't think it was that high. I only hope this will all be worth it (though I am somewhat dubious).

Tribun · Post by **Tribun** » 2004-03-31 10:58am

I've read some online-news about an attack, whose aftermath reminds of Somalia 1993.....bodys dragged through the streets.

Col. Crackpot · Post by **Col. Crackpot** » 2004-03-31 11:05am

actually, some fine specimins of manhood belonging to the Religion of Peace mutilated the charred corpses, tore them to pieces and hung them from bridges for all to see while they danced in the streets like cavemen sacrificing virgins to appease the sun. if you don't believe me check out the pictures for yourself!

an educated savage is a savage nonetheless

Post by **Vympel** » 2004-03-31 11:11am

That was actually a seperate attack against civilians, not the 5 US soldiers that were killed. But yeah, charming. Barbarous.

Chardok · Post by **Chardok** » 2004-03-31 03:09pm

on NPR this morning was a story about two dead soldiers dragged through the streets and *literally* torn into pieces by the angry crowd (In fellujah) the pieces hung up on display. Fucking sickening. I'm seriously getting close to saying fuck this and bug out. I'm sorry, but that piece of shit country isn't worth 1 american life, let alone 600, not to mention other coalition deaths. They don't want us there? Fine. See ya.

*fumes*

Col. Crackpot · Post by **Col. Crackpot** » 2004-03-31 04:00pm

Chardok wrote:on NPR this morning was a story about two dead soldiers dragged through the streets and *literally* torn into pieces by the angry crowd (In fellujah) the pieces hung up on display. Fucking sickening. I'm seriously getting close to saying fuck this and bug out. I'm sorry, but that piece of shit country isn't worth 1 american life, let alone 600, not to mention other coalition deaths. They don't want us there? Fine. See ya.

*fumes*

we're in a position now, where we'll be criticized and spit upon regardless of what we do. If we stay we are imperialist american oppressors. if we leave we are careless cowboys who make a mess and leave it for others to deal with. Do i give a fuck anymore if some scumbags who would tear a human corpse limb from limb, decorate the street with body parts and do the mexican hat dance around a charred human skull have to live in a shithole? ummm... NO. Fuck them.... they'll hate us any damn way, so fuck them.

Aaron · Post by **Aaron** » 2004-03-31 04:03pm

Are there any figures on how many wounded there have been?

theski · Post by **theski** » 2004-03-31 04:09pm

This begs the question.... Can a fully Muslim country have a "True Democratic government"???

Howedar · Post by **Howedar** » 2004-03-31 04:20pm

Of course it can. Just as a fully Christian country could be democratic. THe thing that matters is how fucking psycho you are about said religion.

consequences · Post by **consequences** » 2004-03-31 04:20pm

theski wrote:This begs the question.... Can a fully Muslim country have a "True Democratic government"???

By their standards, sure. By our standards, hell no, half the population is going to be denied the vote automatically.

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2004-03-31 04:36pm

Turkey is fairly democratic, with a reasonably secular government, aren't they?

General Zod · Post by **General Zod** » 2004-03-31 04:37pm

Howedar wrote:Of course it can. Just as a fully Christian country could be democratic. THe thing that matters is how fucking psycho you are about said religion.

Are there any fully christian countries? most that i can think of offhand allow for other religions to exist for the most part, even though the christian belief might be the majority present.

Aaron · Post by **Aaron** » 2004-03-31 04:42pm

HemlockGrey wrote:Turkey is fairly democratic, with a reasonably secular government, aren't they?

Yes they are. In fact their the only democratic predominatly Muslim country in existance.

TheDarkling · Post by **TheDarkling** » 2004-03-31 04:47pm

HemlockGrey wrote:Turkey is fairly democratic, with a reasonably secular government, aren't they?

Turkey has the military standing watch to make sure that the government remains secular.

Raptor 597 · Post by **Raptor 597** » 2004-03-31 05:28pm

consequences wrote:
theski wrote:This begs the question.... Can a fully Muslim country have a "True Democratic government"???
By their standards, sure. By our standards, hell no, half the population is going to be denied the vote automatically.

And the other half will elect a elect a "moderate" religious man and the nation receives a Neo Theocracy edge somewhat worsethan the US. Or we could always play with puppets.

Rye · Post by **Rye** » 2004-03-31 05:59pm

Darth_Zod wrote: Are there any fully christian countries? most that i can think of offhand allow for other religions to exist for the most part, even though the christian belief might be the majority present.

England, in theory. But the anglican church has been neutered for donkeys years, does the vatican count as a christian country?

There are iirc some christian nasty-ass-shit military coups going down in deepest darkest africa though.

p.S how democratic are Jordan and egypt, they're fairly islamic aren't they?

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2004-03-31 06:13pm

Faram wrote:Damn.

To bad on the ones that their life.

I have mixed feelings about that whole mess.

I don't wish anyone dead but I can understand that the Iraqi isn’t to pleased to be under an occupation force.

If more then a small fraction of the Iraqi population really didn't want US forces in country the situation would be untenable for them.

StarshipTitanic · Post by **StarshipTitanic** » 2004-03-31 06:21pm

Rye wrote:
Darth_Zod wrote: Are there any fully christian countries? most that i can think of offhand allow for other religions to exist for the most part, even though the christian belief might be the majority present.
England, in theory. But the anglican church has been neutered for donkeys years, does the vatican count as a christian country?

But the Queen's the Defender of the Faith!

*funny images of old ladies fighting Papal ninjas ensue*

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2004-03-31 06:50pm

Sea Skimmer wrote:
Faram wrote:Damn.

To bad on the ones that their life.

I have mixed feelings about that whole mess.

I don't wish anyone dead but I can understand that the Iraqi isn’t to pleased to be under an occupation force.
If more then a small fraction of the Iraqi population really didn't want US forces in country the situation would be untenable for them.

"they don't want us there" and "they're willing to rise up violently and risk their own lives to attack soldiers with superior training and equipment en masse" are two different things. The majority of the French didn't want the Nazis there, but it wasn't untenable for the Nazis.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2004-03-31 08:10pm

Darth Wong wrote: "they don't want us there" and "they're willing to rise up violently and risk their own lives to attack soldiers with superior training and equipment en masse" are two different things. The majority of the French didn't want the Nazis there, but it wasn't untenable for the Nazis.

That's because the Germans garrisoned France more heavily and where willing to use unrestrained brutality to take care of problems that arose. When an occupier is ruthless resistance becomes much harder. For example when the SS Das Reich division was slowed by partisans when moving towards Normandy, one of its regiments stopped and killed 642 people in the village of Oradour-sur-Glane, leaving only one survivor. Afterwards only allied air attacks hampered its march.

Symmetry · Post by **Symmetry** » 2004-03-31 08:24pm

Darth Wong wrote:
Sea Skimmer wrote:
Faram wrote:Damn.

To bad on the ones that their life.

I have mixed feelings about that whole mess.

I don't wish anyone dead but I can understand that the Iraqi isn’t to pleased to be under an occupation force.
If more then a small fraction of the Iraqi population really didn't want US forces in country the situation would be untenable for them.
"they don't want us there" and "they're willing to rise up violently and risk their own lives to attack soldiers with superior training and equipment en masse" are two different things. The majority of the French didn't want the Nazis there, but it wasn't untenable for the Nazis.

True, and in fact a majority of iraqis think we should leave now, though most supported the invasion. Also, 17% call the attacks against americans "acceptable." Thats pretty bad, but I assume it would have been higher in occupied France.

Symmetry · Post by **Symmetry** » 2004-03-31 08:26pm

Here is good copy of the broken link above.

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Well, the casualty list for Iraq is now at 600

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