Ah, sweet vindication ...

Axis Kast · Post by **Axis Kast** » 2004-03-31 03:46pm

I can dress my link like a big boy, mommy

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2004-03-31 03:58pm

Pity this still can't vindicate the statements actually made prior to the war, like the 45 minute warning until launch, the nuclear weapons.. But I'm sure you'll just bullshit us on those too.

Aaron · Post by **Aaron** » 2004-03-31 04:01pm

How exactly is this vindication?

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2004-03-31 04:10pm

You know what would be real vindication? Actually finding the damn weapons.

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » 2004-03-31 05:16pm

So, one guy says, "I think it's too soon," and you think you're vindicated?

Vohu Manah · Post by **Vohu Manah** » 2004-03-31 09:02pm

If Iraq possessed illegal weapons, they wouldn't be found for years anyway (assuming they are even still in the country). I'm not saying they did or didn't, just saying that it was a multi-year search, and (if I recall correctly) the administration failed to make that clear.

Montcalm · Post by **Montcalm** » 2004-03-31 09:17pm

Everyone knows that the french took back the WMD before the UN Inspectors arrived in Iraq.

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2004-03-31 09:24pm

You're pretty pitiful, Axi.

Howedar · Post by **Howedar** » 2004-03-31 09:26pm

Vohu Manah wrote:If Iraq possessed illegal weapons, they wouldn't be found for years anyway (assuming they are even still in the country).

Proof?

I'm not saying they did or didn't, just saying that it was a multi-year search, and (if I recall correctly) the administration failed to make that clear.

Failed to make it clear? They stated the exact opposite.

We did, after all, know precisely where the weapons were.

Patrick Degan · Post by **Patrick Degan** » 2004-03-31 09:50pm

Ah, it's Comical Axi in his private little fantasy world again. David Kay said just about the same fucking thing before he started the job and came up empty.

Come back with actual evidence someday.

Fire Fly · Post by **Fire Fly** » 2004-03-31 10:14pm

How come no one listened to the Iraqi scientists themselves? Hasn't just about every Iraqi scientist said that there were no weapons?

But that's just me.

Mayabird · Post by **Mayabird** » 2004-03-31 10:16pm

Fire Fly wrote:How come no one listened to the Iraqi scientists themselves? Hasn't just about every Iraqi scientist said that there were no weapons?

But that's just me.

They gave answers that no one in the Administration wanted to hear. That means they're wrong, of course.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2004-03-31 10:17pm

Fire Fly wrote:How come no one listened to the Iraqi scientists themselves? Hasn't just about every Iraqi scientist said that there were no weapons?

But that's just me.

I saw a picture of an Iraqi Republican Guard soldier in Baghdad wearing a helmet that had a hole in it. Gives you an idea of the state of their military infrastructure; the same infrastructure which was supposedly supporting a sophisticated chemical and biological weapons program which was capable of threatening the entire Middle East and even the United States.

Aaron · Post by **Aaron** » 2004-03-31 10:21pm

Fire Fly wrote:How come no one listened to the Iraqi scientists themselves? Hasn't just about every Iraqi scientist said that there were no weapons?

But that's just me.

They have selective hearing. They're all for listening to exiled Iraqi's and defectors who have a reason to lie: to get their country liberated and them into power. As far as I can see the Iraqi scientisits don't have any reason to lie. But they need to find these weapons because they used them to start the war.

Crown · Post by **Crown** » 2004-03-31 10:53pm

Vohu Manah wrote:If Iraq possessed illegal weapons, they wouldn't be found for years anyway (assuming they are even still in the country). I'm not saying they did or didn't, just saying that it was a multi-year search, and (if I recall correctly) the administration failed to make that clear.

You are correct they did indeed 'fail to make that clear', one of the ways they failed is when Donald was asked if he new where the WMD were he said;

'Yes they are near the Kirkurt area.'

I'd say they failed to make it clear that they were spinning bullshit too.

Vohu Manah · Post by **Vohu Manah** » 2004-04-01 12:34pm

Pointing to this site (GlobalPolicy,org) only for the the years in the first descriptive paragraph (1991 - 1998), the years of the previous round of UN Weapons Inspections in Iraq.

Call this a stretch if you wish, but considering the UN (or atleast powerful elements of, not really interested in doing a full background search of the politics of the matter) felt that seven years was still too short a time for the matter to be satisfied fully, I would consider that the same to be true the second time around. Saddam had an additional three to four years to potentially rebuild an arsenal of "banned" weapons and hide them throughout his country. IF he had such weapons, and he chose not to use them against the invading forces, they would arguably remain well hidden.

Sir Sirius · Post by **Sir Sirius** » 2004-04-01 01:39pm

Saddam couldn't even hide himself, but he is supposed to have been capable of hiding stores of WMD, along with the production facilities used to produce these weapons and the people responsible for the production of these weapons?

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2004-04-01 01:40pm

You gotta be shitting me, Axis Kast. One official in the CIA says that it's too soon to tell about Iraq's NBC programs and you claim you're vindicated, even though you claimed that the weapons ACTUALLY EXISTED?

BoredShirtless · Post by **BoredShirtless** » 2004-04-01 02:26pm

How can someone who writes like an author have the reasoning abilities of a 6 year old? What are you?

Post by **Vympel** » 2004-04-02 03:54am

BoredShirtless wrote:How can someone who writes like an author have the reasoning abilities of a 6 year old? What are you?

It's quite the juxtaposition, really. If he wasn't absolutely crazy, he'd be quite easy to read.

Mayabird · Post by **Mayabird** » 2004-04-03 12:18pm

Vindication, you say?

Powell admits Iraq evidence mistake

[Nelson]HA HA! [/Nelson]

Fire Fly · Post by **Fire Fly** » 2004-04-03 01:12pm

So does that mean they knew that their information was very sketchy but still wanted the war?

But that's just me.

Mayabird · Post by **Mayabird** » 2004-04-03 01:14pm

Fire Fly wrote:So does that mean they knew that their information was very sketchy but still wanted the war?

But that's just me.

It means that Comical Axi is going to be rather entertaining for the next few days as he rather unsuccessfully tries to explain it away.

Post by **Vympel** » 2004-04-03 01:20pm

He's wayyyyyyyy beyond going to the trouble of explaining the unmitigated series of intelligence collapses that have been revealed over the past few months- just recently the Iraqi defector known as 'Curveball'- whom the Germans *told* the Americans were full of shit, but, big surprise, they "didn't listen". This defector was the one who made up the mobile labs bullshit (amongst other things)- and who is related to a high-ranking INC member (you know, the guys who've admitted lying to further their glorious cause to put their alleged embezzler leader in charge of Iraq).

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Ah, sweet vindication ...

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