Petroleum prices

Tsyroc · Post by **Tsyroc** » 2004-03-31 08:17pm

Exonerate wrote:Southern California, around LA. I don't have an exact price, but around 2.30/gal is pretty close.

http://www.losangelesgasprices.com/

The low: $1.94 at Costco in Lancaster
The high: $2.45 at Shell in Downey

Guardsman Bass · Post by **Guardsman Bass** » 2004-03-31 08:27pm

Salt Lake, Utah. $1.79/ga. Christ, I can remember when it was 89 cents a gallon.

Bob McDob · Post by **Bob McDob** » 2004-03-31 10:29pm

And I can remember when we had the highest gas prices in the nation :\ It's around $2 a gallon and climbing (don't remember the exact price as I don't drive), and Chevron is reacting violently to capping the price.

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2004-03-31 11:05pm

According to John Kerry, gas prices here are nearly $3/gallon. According to my persona observations, they average a little less than $2.

Symmetry · Post by **Symmetry** » 2004-03-31 11:29pm

Col. Crackpot wrote:
Mr Bean wrote: The grand Republic of California will or normaly is always the highest prices because only oil refined in California can be used in California gas stations which adds rougly .20C to every galleon regardless of price otherwise
well thats a stupid law!

All protectionism is equally stupid.

TrailerParkJawa · Post by **TrailerParkJawa** » 2004-04-01 01:11am

Col. Crackpot wrote:
Mr Bean wrote: The grand Republic of California will or normaly is always the highest prices because only oil refined in California can be used in California gas stations which adds rougly .20C to every galleon regardless of price otherwise
well thats a stupid law!

Yeah, its a dumb law. There is nothing wrong with standard federal gasoline standards but we get to use our special gas with MTBE ...hmmm yum!

Northern California gets it worse that So Cal. Right now $20 bucks wont completely fill my Civic EX. I think 87 right now is somewhere around $2.31 a gallon.

Uraniun235 · Post by **Uraniun235** » 2004-04-01 03:52am

Why is gasoline so expensive in Europe?

TheDarkling · Post by **TheDarkling** » 2004-04-01 05:19am

Uraniun235 wrote:Why is gasoline so expensive in Europe?

In the UK at least it is because 75p in the £ is Petrol Tax, most West European nations have a similar level of tax.

Sokar · Post by **Sokar** » 2004-04-01 06:05am

Here in Indiana its hovering at just below $2.00 a gallon.
Std. - $1.77
Mid. - $1.87
High. - $1.97

Considering that just last night when I filled up it was only 1.74 for mid-grade.......this should finally get them to curb the gas tax at least for a bit.

Col. Crackpot · Post by **Col. Crackpot** » 2004-04-01 07:57am

TrailerParkJawa wrote:
Col. Crackpot wrote:
Mr Bean wrote: The grand Republic of California will or normaly is always the highest prices because only oil refined in California can be used in California gas stations which adds rougly .20C to every galleon regardless of price otherwise
well thats a stupid law!
Yeah, its a dumb law. There is nothing wrong with standard federal gasoline standards but we get to use our special gas with MTBE ...hmmm yum!

Northern California gets it worse that So Cal. Right now $20 bucks wont completely fill my Civic EX. I think 87 right now is somewhere around $2.31 a gallon.

over here (RI Mass CT) MBTE was banned because it was poisoning the water. The funny thing is that the enviro-nuts shoved MBTE down our throats to reduce air polution, and never bothered to reasearch the shit fully. It was a year or two before they realized it was poisoning water and killing marine life.

EmperorChrostas the Cruel · Post by **EmperorChrostas the Cruel** » 2004-04-01 12:19pm

Sorry Mr Jawa, but California has banned MTBE as well.http://www.energy.ca.gov/mtbe/ It has been banned since the start of the beginning of this year.
This adds to the cost even MORE, because they have to use ethanol as a substitute. The changeover, and the greater cost of ethanol, make California gas the highest.
Also, New York, Mass. and a few other states have banned MTBE as well, making ethanol more expencive as well. (supply and demand)
Also, there was a big explosion in a large Texas refinery recently.
And OPEC has announced they intend to cut production by 4%, AND China has increased it's oil consumption aprox 10% per year the last 3 years, in a global market that is only just barely ahead of demand.(and is expected to grow as much this year as well)
Compound interest adds up, and China is now the #3 importer of petrolium in the world, with. USA#1, andJapan #2.
The #3, (refinery explosion) doesn't have an immediate effect physicly on the supply, but causes prices to go up, via speculation, and futures markets.

Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi · Post by **Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi** » 2004-04-01 06:33pm

It's around $1.59 where I live. I'd say more people travelling is one of the causes (IIRC, there was a short period of time after 9/11 where gas was 99 cents a gallon at some places where I lived).

Dahak · Post by **Dahak** » 2004-04-01 07:08pm

Uraniun235 wrote:Why is gasoline so expensive in Europe?

The gas prices here in Germany consist of around 76% taxes (VAT, "eco tax", gas tax...), ~5% of misc stuff, and around 19% for the actual gas itself.

Patrick Degan · Post by **Patrick Degan** » 2004-04-02 12:29am

What I think the president ought to do is he ought to get on the phone with the OPEC cartel and say we expect you to open your spigots.

—George W. Bush, January 2000 (during a presidential debate)

Soooo.... When does Georgie the Wonder-Chimp get on that phone?

Post by **RogueIce** » 2004-04-02 12:33am

RedImperator wrote:around $1.50 or so for regular. It should be noted New Jersey has some of the lowest gas prices in the country.

Isn't self serve illegal there, too, forcing full service upon everybody? Or was I lied to/mixing things up?

kornstar08562 · Post by **kornstar08562** » 2004-04-02 02:33am

Isn't self serve illegal there, too, forcing full service upon everybody? Or was I lied to/mixing things up?

You are right it is illegal to pump my own gas.
here its been hovering at 1.60 to 1.69 lately which sucks cause im filling my tank twice a week

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2004-04-02 02:41am

I don't know what you people are complaining about. Gas prices in Ontario have been fluctuating between 65 cents/L and 80 cents/L for the past few weeks; it's ridiculous.

PS. 65 CDN cents/L is around $2.00/gallon after currency and volume conversions. 80 CDN cents/L is around $2.45/gallon.

The worst thing about this is that so much of the price is taxes, and the gas tax is supposed to pay for roads and public transit, but instead it's simply going into the general slush fund for politicians to pay off their friends with.

Slartibartfast · Post by **Slartibartfast** » 2004-04-02 02:47am

You people and your cheap gas.

Post by **Vympel** » 2004-04-02 04:11am

Well, I paid 99.9 cents/L today.

His Divine Shadow · Post by **His Divine Shadow** » 2004-04-02 04:22am

Admiral Valdemar wrote:I heard the explosion in Texas at one refinery may affect prices in that area at least (people blamed al-Qaeda first, hardly surprising as thems terrorist folks cause all the evils of this world).

OPEC has plans to cut production sometime this year, but negotiations are still going on as cutting production with the price of oil now would seem silly.

And we all know OPEC are perfectly rational people.

I wish OPEC was horribly murdered.

BoredShirtless · Post by **BoredShirtless** » 2004-04-02 04:29am

Patrick Degan wrote:What I think the president ought to do is he ought to get on the phone with the OPEC cartel and say we expect you to open your spigots.

—George W. Bush, January 2000 (during a presidential debate)

Soooo.... When does Georgie the Wonder-Chimp get on that phone?

He already warned OPEC not to cut production. No, he didn't tell them. He warned them. Best. Diplomat. Ever.

BoredShirtless · Post by **BoredShirtless** » 2004-04-02 04:31am

BoredShirtless wrote:No, he didn't tell them.

That should have been "ask" them.

Post by **Vympel** » 2004-04-02 04:53am

The fiscal inconvenience aside- who the fuck is anyone to tell a country what it should and shouldn't do with it's own fucking resources- really? Just order OPEC to "open its spigots"? Who the fuck owns that oil, shrubby? You? The guy was proven an idiot long before he was President.

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2004-04-02 05:01am

Vympel wrote:The fiscal inconvenience aside- who the fuck is anyone to tell a country what it should and shouldn't do with it's own fucking resources- really? Just order OPEC to "open its spigots"? Who the fuck owns that oil, shrubby? You? The guy was proven an idiot long before he was President.

Uhm, we cut off all exports of Oil to Japan in 1941. Wow. That Worked
So well

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2004-04-02 05:03am

And besides, we could break OPEC if we wanted to...we produce just as
much oil as Saudi Arabia...