Slicer VS. Star Fleet

[Darth Sephiroth]

Okay, a friend of mine let me look through his tech manual for Star Trek and I noticed something, in Star Trek they have absolutely no safeguards against hackers, meaning one major advantage SW has are the Slicers, heck even someone from now with the right training could take over pretty much everything. Now would it be possible for one Slicer from the Imperials to be able to take over Star Fleet without a problem or would they figure out what was going on and get some sort of safeguards? I'm sorry if this is a repeated question discussed here, but I didn't see anything on the topic.

[General Zod]

completely alien probes have been able to take over and otherwise fuck with starfleet ships' computers with relative ease in the past. an SW device in the same fashion would seriously fuck up their systems relatively simply.

[neoolong]

To be fair, there is some defense against hackers.

When O'Brien was going undercover for the Orion Syndicate, he set up a trap for one of the Syndicate members that was trying to hack into a computer. It sent some type of electrical shock back into the device the guy was using. So defenses do at least exist, even if they aren't used much.

[Solauren]

I was actually considering using that as a premise for a fan-fic....

Someone get lore's brain, reprograms it, links it into the Federation communication network, and uses it to take over every ship in Starfleet....

[Darth Sephiroth]

yeah, not to mention what kind of damage that would be caused if they interface with the Borg, a personal army as their personal plaything, just imagining what the admiralties reaction would be to the borg playing duel of the fates

[Bob the Gunslinger]

Okay, a friend of mine let me look through his tech manual for Star Trek and I noticed something, in Star Trek they have absolutely no safeguards against hackers, meaning one major advantage SW has are the Slicers, heck even someone from now with the right training could take over pretty much everything. Now would it be possible for one Slicer from the Imperials to be able to take over Star Fleet without a problem or would they figure out what was going on and get some sort of safeguards? I'm sorry if this is a repeated question discussed here, but I didn't see anything on the topic.

Didn't Professor Moriarty hack the Enterprise's systems twice?

If someone from the late 1800s can hack into your computer and take control of your ship, you might be a Redneck.[/Foxworthy]

If they pull it off again the next year, you're just plain redtarded.

[Isolder74]

Okay, a friend of mine let me look through his tech manual for Star Trek and I noticed something, in Star Trek they have absolutely no safeguards against hackers, meaning one major advantage SW has are the Slicers, heck even someone from now with the right training could take over pretty much everything. Now would it be possible for one Slicer from the Imperials to be able to take over Star Fleet without a problem or would they figure out what was going on and get some sort of safeguards? I'm sorry if this is a repeated question discussed here, but I didn't see anything on the topic.

Didn't Professor Moriarty hack the Enterprise's systems twice?

If someone from the late 1800s can hack into your computer and take control of your ship, you might be a Redneck.[/Foxworthy]

If they pull it off again the next year, you're just plain redtarded.

Yes he did but to be fair he had information that a normal 1800's man wouldn't have. It appears the Holodeck put some into into him that he shouldn't have known. But its still no excuse. How can a computer dame character possible even talk to anything else outside ot the program's domain? Why does the Holodeck even need to be connected to the main computer anyway?

[Darth Sephiroth]

Okay, a friend of mine let me look through his tech manual for Star Trek and I noticed something, in Star Trek they have absolutely no safeguards against hackers, meaning one major advantage SW has are the Slicers, heck even someone from now with the right training could take over pretty much everything. Now would it be possible for one Slicer from the Imperials to be able to take over Star Fleet without a problem or would they figure out what was going on and get some sort of safeguards? I'm sorry if this is a repeated question discussed here, but I didn't see anything on the topic.

Didn't Professor Moriarty hack the Enterprise's systems twice?

If someone from the late 1800s can hack into your computer and take control of your ship, you might be a Redneck.[/Foxworthy]

If they pull it off again the next year, you're just plain redtarded.

Yes he did but to be fair he had information that a normal 1800's man wouldn't have. It appears the Holodeck put some into into him that he shouldn't have known. But its still no excuse. How can a computer dame character possible even talk to anything else outside ot the program's domain? Why does the Holodeck even need to be connected to the main computer anyway?

Must we reiterate that the Trek universe's computer skills seem to involve drunken monkey's in charge of their security

[Sarevok]

Slicers should be able to hack starfleet computers easily. Starfleet computers have terrible security features.

[The Third Man]

A single slicer? I think it would depend on how much advance knowledege on Fed language, culture and technology he or she has.

Without this knowledge the slicer would not be familiar with the hardware (bio gel-packs?) would not know the (human) language or even alphabet that the data in the system is written in, would not know the sort of questions the computer was designed to answer, would not know something as fundamental as what the units of measurement (eg "the Ent-D is 650 metres long") being used mean. It would take an unreasonably long time to overcome all this, even if a single slicer would have the necessary skills and specialist knowledge required; the job might require a team - a linguist/protocol droid, a hardware person/droid, a psychologist/sociologist and so on.

In the case of a single unprepared slicer, it would be like sending a script-kiddie with his big CD-ROM of downloaded Windows Hackz'n'Crackz back 200 years and asking him "to hack" a Babbage difference engine.

[Yalius]

In the case of a single unprepared slicer, it would be like sending a script-kiddie with his big CD-ROM of downloaded Windows Hackz'n'Crackz back 200 years and asking him "to hack" a Babbage difference engine.

Federation computers would probably react to an unidentified access by bringing the universal translator online to try to "assist". Then it might give a simple menu like:

Would you like to:
Gain full access to our system?
Lock out all other access?
Crash entire system?
Take control of entire ship?
Take control of entire fleet?
Take control of entire Federation?
Additional help is available if our Wizard system is unable to assist you in gaining unauthorized access.

[Darth Sephiroth]

In the case of a single unprepared slicer, it would be like sending a script-kiddie with his big CD-ROM of downloaded Windows Hackz'n'Crackz back 200 years and asking him "to hack" a Babbage difference engine.

Federation computers would probably react to an unidentified access by bringing the universal translator online to try to "assist". Then it might give a simple menu like:

Would you like to:
Gain full access to our system?
Lock out all other access?
Crash entire system?
Take control of entire ship?
Take control of entire fleet?
Take control of entire Federation?
Additional help is available if our Wizard system is unable to assist you in gaining unauthorized access.

First off, that is one bloody hell of a sig quote, but I digress.

First off, the hacker's gear could probably be able to interface with it and let him or her have their fun, otherwise, if the slicer is stuck with just the Feddie system, he'd probably just end up trashing it because it isn't working right. But another point is that it would be rather easy for the Slicer to hide his tracks because they really don't know what to do against a real hacker

[Kuja]

*Imagins nutty SW hacker using the E-Ds phasers to write '1 \/\/45 H3r3!'*

[Bob the Gunslinger]

*Imagins nutty SW hacker using the E-Ds phasers to write '1 \/\/45 H3r3!'*

He would only get the "1 " part before some phasic metreon cascade crippled the phaser banks and re-routed all control of the enterprise to the Genghis Khan simulation on the Holodock.

"It is time to pillage."[/mongolian]