Morons on the road

Isil`Zha · Post by **Isil`Zha** » 2004-04-04 03:21pm

Hyperion wrote:Don't start me up about the morons who pace at 50-55 on the freeway and can't seem to notice the 2 mile backup behind them, or the lack of *any* cars on the same side of the freeway in front of them.

The speed limit on the freeways here in Washington is 60mph, on Hwy16 (the one I commute on daily), the average speed is 65-67 in the right lane and as high as 75-80 in the left. So it gets really ugly when some fuckwit does 50 in either lane.

Yes, I really do hate those damn people, especially in heavy traffic. You'd think they'd take the damn hint when there's a line of cars a mile long behind them and only a few in the lane next to them.... not to mention they're going 50 in the left lane in a 70 zone... That reminds me. I was coming back up through Sacramento one day and there was this old fucker doing exactly that... 50 in a 65/70 zone.. in the left lane. Well, we merged onto a part of I-80/99 where the freeway is *7 fucking lanes wide*. And what does this fuckface do? He goes *straight* for the *furthest left lane, still doing 50*. Fuckers like this are why there's heavy traffic - everyone piles up behind them.

Isil`Zha · Post by **Isil`Zha** » 2004-04-04 03:28pm

His Divine Shadow wrote:I was going to work this morning, as usual, the route takes me around 10km of rural road where there is just forrest and fields and a lake, anyway I am coming at this particular 90% curve and I see a car infront of me, it's doing 30kph in a 80 zone, what the fuck?

I have to drive past this dumb, slow fuck I am thinking, but the bastard is almost in the middle of the road, I use the horn so he'll know I wish to get past, he then proceeds to drive absolutely in the middle of the road!

Well fuck that motherfucking piece of anal lube, I squeeze myself in to the right of the road and drive past him on the inside whilst waving the universal fuck you sign through the window, I really wanted to stop across the road, go up to him and beat his fucking face in, fortunately I have work to get to.

I've gotten behind people like this before - one such example would've been on a road.. with about the same speed limit (55 mph), and it's a road that's pretty much perfectly straight, but passing in this particular section isn't allowed cause it goes up and down hills so you can't see that far ahead. Well, suddenly I have to SLAM on my brakes cause this fuckface *practically snaps his neck to cut me off* and then *drives fucking 25-30mph*. It was still the no passing section and there cars had been coming anyway, but after about oh... 1/4 mile he had managed to pile up about 10 cars behind him already. So after I saw it was clear.. as far as I could see, I fucking FLEW passed that bitch while blazing my horn... and I looked back to see 5 other cars all pass him with me with their horns blazing as well - the dumbfuck seemed to be oblivious that he was a slow moving road hazard.

Hyperion · Post by **Hyperion** » 2004-04-04 08:51pm

I laugh at how the cops go head over heels to nail speeders, yet they seem to ignore the slow-moving fuckwits who *really* cause the road rage and wrecks. Especially given the research study I heard about a few years ago where the insurance companies checked the accident records of habitual speeders (5-15 over) to that of the people doing the speedlimit or below. Turned out the speeders had *much* better accident records.

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2004-04-04 09:37pm

Something else that pisses me off is people who honk their fucking car horns to say hello to a friend. If I ever have a bout of road rage, it will be at some 19 year old prick in an SUV honking his horn 3 goddamn times just to announce his presence to some asshole in another car. I mean, you shouldn't honk your horn unless you have to; it's rude, and disruptive to the other drivers.

Einhander Sn0m4n · Post by **Einhander Sn0m4n** » 2004-04-04 10:27pm

Oni Koneko Damien wrote:I don't really mind people doing 50 on the freeway, they're easy enough to spot and pass. It's the fuckwits that come in pairs, both doing fifty, and both KEEPING PARALLEL WITH EACH OTHER SO NO ONE CAN PASS. They're the kind of people that make me glad my horn doesn't work because I'd probably cause an accident with the amount of leaning I do on it when I'm stuck behind them.

-Damien

I saw that happen (and posted it here a couple times: search for 'traffic jam')on the bridge across the Mississippi River, except it was four Alzheimers impressionists (one for each lane) going at least 20mph below the limit. The resulting traffic jam didn't disperse for hours...

EmperorMing · Post by **EmperorMing** » 2004-04-04 11:43pm

Hyperion wrote:I laugh at how the cops go head over heels to nail speeders, yet they seem to ignore the slow-moving fuckwits who *really* cause the road rage and wrecks. Especially given the research study I heard about a few years ago where the insurance companies checked the accident records of habitual speeders (5-15 over) to that of the people doing the speedlimit or below. Turned out the speeders had *much* better accident records.

Speeders generate money for the city/town/state. Slow drivers do not.

EmperorMing · Post by **EmperorMing** » 2004-04-04 11:45pm

Isil`Zha wrote: ...
Yes, I really do hate those damn people, especially in heavy traffic. You'd think they'd take the damn hint when there's a line of cars a mile long behind them and only a few in the lane next to them.... not to mention they're going 50 in the left lane in a 70 zone... That reminds me. I was coming back up through Sacramento one day and there was this old fucker doing exactly that... 50 in a 65/70 zone.. in the left lane. Well, we merged onto a part of I-80/99 where the freeway is *7 fucking lanes wide*. And what does this fuckface do? He goes *straight* for the *furthest left lane, still doing 50*. Fuckers like this are why there's heavy traffic - everyone piles up behind them.

One reason why people in the left lane go that slow is because they think they are safe on the left or right side of the freeway; and incorrectly thinking that the speeders go fast in the middle lanes.

Einhander Sn0m4n · Post by **Einhander Sn0m4n** » 2004-04-04 11:57pm

EmperorMing wrote:
Hyperion wrote:I laugh at how the cops go head over heels to nail speeders, yet they seem to ignore the slow-moving fuckwits who *really* cause the road rage and wrecks. Especially given the research study I heard about a few years ago where the insurance companies checked the accident records of habitual speeders (5-15 over) to that of the people doing the speedlimit or below. Turned out the speeders had *much* better accident records.
Speeders generate money for the city/town/state. Slow drivers do not.

You took the words out of my mouth. Why the hell does this country think only in terms of money and profit? I think America's going to the Ferengi...

MarkIX · Post by **MarkIX** » 2004-04-05 12:50am

HemlockGrey wrote:
They have rules they aren't your rules, and I don't know if they are the official rules but they work, and they work quite well. It only looks chaotic from an american perspective because Cars do not automatically have right of way, and people aren't afraid of them.
Bullshit. There was a traffic accident every six blocks, and every single driver seemed to THINK he had right of way, judging by the number of times I was nearly run over by cars while crossing a street at the fucking crosswalk.

Well lets get on the same page shall we. Define What you call an accident, because I have spent a couple of weeks travelling around Beijing and a about 1.25 years in China and I have not seen the amount of accidents your observations seem to indicate. I have seen two accidents in Beijing, one involving bicycles and one a car and a bike, and a handful of accidents outside of Beijing mostly bike/motorcycle on car.
I have travelled all over the place in transport from trains to bicycles, buses and cars, on all kinds of roads I haven't seen that many accidents. I have crossed innumerable pedestrian crossings and never been hit by anything even when operating on auto pilot, one other person I have met have told me that where they worked there were many accidents, that was near the Korean border in an undeveloped region. Many accidents has not been my exprience not where I worked last year not where I'm working now and not in Beijing.
I think you are exaggerating.

Oni Koneko Damien · Post by **Oni Koneko Damien** » 2004-04-05 02:53pm

EmperorMing wrote:One reason why people in the left lane go that slow is because they think they are safe on the left or right side of the freeway; and incorrectly thinking that the speeders go fast in the middle lanes.

*blinks* A middle lane? Whisky Tango Foxtrot is that? I live out in the rugged farmlands, I've never heard of this 'middle-lane' concept.

-Damien

Korvan · Post by **Korvan** » 2004-04-05 05:33pm

Darth Yoshi wrote:
MarkIX wrote:They have rules they aren't your rules, and I don't know if they are the official rules but they work, and they work quite well. It only looks chaotic from an american perspective because Cars do not automatically have right of way, and people aren't afraid of them.
Theoretically, pedestrians also have the right of way in the US.

When I was in China, what what I could observe, right of way is determined primarily by vechicle mass. The tour bus I was one entered an alley way filled with bicylces. Our driver just leaned on the horn and the result was like seeing a school of fish being scattered by a shark. We hit three of them, by my count, but I don't think they were seriously injured.

I was actually hit once there by a car, myself. I thought I had plenty of room to cross the street, but I didn't take into account that the car would actually speed up and swerve to intentionly hit me. I was able to dive for the sidewalk and it only clipped my foot, but that imparted enough angular momentum to wrap me around a lamp post.

Dahak · Post by **Dahak** » 2004-04-05 05:45pm

Doing only 50mph would be...unwise on a German Autobahn, and you'd certainly get fined (unless it's a traffic jam...).

A Big Flying Fish · Post by **A Big Flying Fish** » 2004-04-05 06:29pm

Slow drivers are far from the worst problem. Try having a wanker at the front of a line of traffic through a heavy volume commuter village, which is the only road through the area, who sees a friend at the side of the road, stops in the middle of the lane to chat, and doesn't move for 10 minutes. The road is one lane wide either way, and the other lane has enough traffic to make it nigh on impossible to pull out. If it doesn't give the urge to disembowel, nothing will.

Vertigo1 · Post by **Vertigo1** » 2004-04-05 06:57pm

Einhander Sn0m4n wrote:I saw that happen (and posted it here a couple times: search for 'traffic jam')on the bridge across the Mississippi River, except it was four Alzheimers impressionists (one for each lane) going at least 20mph below the limit. The resulting traffic jam didn't disperse for hours...

Gah, I remember that...even made the news for a few days.

EmperorMing · Post by **EmperorMing** » 2004-04-06 12:46am

Oni Koneko Damien wrote:
EmperorMing wrote:One reason why people in the left lane go that slow is because they think they are safe on the left or right side of the freeway; and incorrectly thinking that the speeders go fast in the middle lanes.
*blinks* A middle lane? Whisky Tango Foxtrot is that? I live out in the rugged farmlands, I've never heard of this 'middle-lane' concept.

-Damien

Head to a more populated city/town and you will see what I mean. Some idjiots think they are safer on the edges and let the maniacs drive in the middle. Ignant idjiots.

Tolya · Post by **Tolya** » 2004-04-06 06:54am

Left lane on a a 3-lane road, coming up to the bridge (Siekierki in Warsaw).
It was around 22pm, the road was totally empty, so I decided to speed up a bit and have some fun. No cars in vicinity. I was going about 120km/h (something like 70miles/h). I start slowing down because there is some traffic up ahead. And suddenly...I see a car without lights right in front of me and its coming up fast! I brake and change the lane. And what comes up? Some fucker left a broken car on the left lane, WITHOUT any lights or emergency triangle. Happened twice there, once for me, once for my father.

Tolya · Post by **Tolya** » 2004-04-06 06:58am

Idiot drivers in Poland are far too numerous. The make up for the majority of the drivers.
Im no safety-freak, but whenever I drive fast or slow, aggressively or normally, whenever Im in hurry or not, I try to behave responsibly and have other people in mind. But when a small Fiat, driving at 40km/h changes middle lane to left lane, where Im driving at 80km/h, without looking in the mirror and putting me in one crappy situation...my personal aggression rating goes through the roof.

Col. Crackpot · Post by **Col. Crackpot** » 2004-04-06 09:26am

i drove in Dade county Florida a few years back. Fuck, between the bluehairs plunging their grand marquis into the canal system, and entire lanes of traffic blasting through redlights for 30 seconds after the light changes, i was suprised i lived through the experience. Funny thing, i was in Montreal last summer and it is exactly the opposite there. People jam on their brakes to stop for yellow lights and get an early start by taking off before the light turns green.

theski · Post by **theski** » 2004-04-06 09:52am

Col. Crackpot wrote

and entire lanes of traffic blasting through redlights for 30 seconds after the light changes, i was suprised i lived through the experience.

If that ain't BOSTON drivers I don't know what is

Lord of the Farce · Post by **Lord of the Farce** » 2004-04-06 10:05am

HemlockGrey wrote:
They have rules they aren't your rules, and I don't know if they are the official rules but they work, and they work quite well. It only looks chaotic from an american perspective because Cars do not automatically have right of way, and people aren't afraid of them.
Bullshit. There was a traffic accident every six blocks, and every single driver seemed to THINK he had right of way, judging by the number of times I was nearly run over by cars while crossing a street at the fucking crosswalk.

A traffic accident every six blocks? Then Beijing must be different compared to Shenzhen more than I've ever previously thought possible, because in all of the time I've ever spent in China (about 10 years all together, spent mainly in Shenzhen and occasional visit to Guangzhou), I've witnessed less than a dozen accidents that were more than just light bumps.

Also, a quick search for people killed in traffic accidents in China and in America returned the (respective) results of 100,600 (for 2001) and 42,815 (for 2003). Using population statistics from the CIA website, your chance of being in a fatal road accident is (to four decimal places):

USA: 0.0147%
China: 0.0078%

Col. Crackpot · Post by **Col. Crackpot** » 2004-04-06 10:05am

theski wrote:Col. Crackpot wrote
and entire lanes of traffic blasting through redlights for 30 seconds after the light changes, i was suprised i lived through the experience.

If that ain't BOSTON drivers I don't know what is

Beantown isn't so bad anymore with the dig almost done, Although you still need balls of steel to parallel park on the north end.

Dahak · Post by **Dahak** » 2004-04-06 10:22am

After getting tailgated by a Daimler doing 200+ km/h (a fairly normal occurance on German Autobahns), you won't get frightened by much else...

Tribun · Post by **Tribun** » 2004-04-06 10:35am

Dahak wrote:After getting tailgated by a Daimler doing 200+ km/h (a fairly normal occurance on German Autobahns), you won't get frightened by much else...

Ah yes, the Autobahn.

While my drive's license test I've seen there things. I had a speed of 130km/h but still a Porsche drove left of me with a speed that it was out of sight in seconds.
But really funny it is when two or even three trucks start a Elefantenrennen (elephant race). No chance to get past them, no way to see the exit in time......

Dahak · Post by **Dahak** » 2004-04-06 10:54am

Tribun wrote:
Dahak wrote:After getting tailgated by a Daimler doing 200+ km/h (a fairly normal occurance on German Autobahns), you won't get frightened by much else...
Ah yes, the Autobahn.

While my drive's license test I've seen there things. I had a speed of 130km/h but still a Porsche drove left of me with a speed that it was out of sight in seconds.
But really funny it is when two or even three trucks start a Elefantenrennen (elephant race). No chance to get past them, no way to see the exit in time......

What I hate are idiots crawling out from behind a truck to the left lane doing 80km/h, and can FUCKING SEE YOU coming in with 200km/h...
One of these days I long for a rocket launcher in my car...

Col. Crackpot · Post by **Col. Crackpot** » 2004-04-06 11:03am

Dahak wrote: What I hate are idiots crawling out from behind a truck to the left lane doing 80km/h, and can FUCKING SEE YOU coming in with 200km/h...
One of these days I long for a rocket launcher in my car...

You wouldn't last long driving in the States.

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