15 year old girl charged with 'child porn'?

[h0rus]

Wtf is wrong with this picture? I can't find anymore links with info on this. I'll followup with more info as it becomes available. But this shit just seems ridiculous.

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[Keevan_Colton]

Er, what the FUCK?

[General Zod]

what the hell? okay, so they're going to charge her with posting pictures of herself onto chatrooms. . .admittedly the people on the other end would be a bit twisted if they knew she was really fifteen. but how the hell do they get off charging her for possessing naked pictures of herself? that'd be like charging someone for looking at themselves in the bathroom mirror.

distributing child pornography maybe. but either way that's a pretty fucked up case. . .

[Keevan_Colton]

Did you see the last line?

The teenager has been charged with the possession and distribution of child pornography as well as the sexual abuse of children. ®

There has to be something more to this than they're stating or the last line makes even less sense or is improperly written. *strangles the bad journalists*

[Rogue 9]

Well, they can't exactly let her get away with it. You realize the gigantic legal loophole that would open? All a pedophile would have to do is hand a kid a camera and have her do the work...

[Cosmic Average]

The teenager has been charged with the possession and distribution of child pornography as well as the sexual abuse of children.

God, what stupidity..

However, there's not much information in the article.. No home town or the name of any officals, so how can you verify if it's accurate?

[Cosmic Average]

Did you see the last line?

The teenager has been charged with the possession and distribution of child pornography as well as the sexual abuse of children. ®

There has to be something more to this than they're stating or the last line makes even less sense or is improperly written. *strangles the bad journalists*

Yeah, it does say children as in plural.

[Keevan_Colton]

The teenager has been charged with the possession and distribution of child pornography as well as the sexual abuse of children.

God, what stupidity..

However, there's not much information in the article.. No home town or the name of any officals, so how can you verify if it's accurate?

I'm not sure about how it is in the states, but here in the UK there's very strict laws about what details you can give about pending legal actions involving minors. This shit though lacks coherent details...I'd guess from the last line that there is something more to this than we're being told....or that the local legal system are on PCP or something.

[General Zod]

Well, they can't exactly let her get away with it. You realize the gigantic legal loophole that would open? All a pedophile would have to do is hand a kid a camera and have her do the work...

get away with what? there should be something done because of the distribution, but she was taking pictures of herself!

it's kind of insane to charge her with the sexual abuse of children and possession for that.

[Rogue 9]

Well, they can't exactly let her get away with it. You realize the gigantic legal loophole that would open? All a pedophile would have to do is hand a kid a camera and have her do the work...

get away with what? there should be something done because of the distribution, but she was taking pictures of herself!

it's kind of insane to charge her with the sexual abuse of children and possession for that.

Ah... Missed that part. I've seen this story on another board, but I don't think the particular article linked to over there mentioned an abuse charge. That is ridiculous.

[Keevan_Colton]

Found another place with almost the same piece with a few more bits of info in it
here

Teen who posted own photo charged with child porn

Monday, March 29, 2004

Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

State police have charged a 15-year-old Latrobe girl with child pornography for taking photos of herself and posting them on the Internet.

Police said the girl, whose identity they withheld, photographed herself in various states of undress and performing a variety of sexual acts. She then sent the photos to people she met in chat rooms.

A police report did not say how police learned about the girl. They found dozens of pictures of her on her computer.

She has been charged with sexual abuse of children, possession of child pornography and dissemination of child pornography.

Police said they are trying to identify all the people who receive photos from the girl.

The few bits there which arent in the Register one are likely due to it being UK and using the usual code of practice here.

Anyway...seems to be leaning towards the legal system on PCP from that one...or even worse journalism...

[Durandal]

I seriously doubt that bringing her to court on the very serious charge of child pornography (and possibly tossing her in juvie) is going to help correct whatever psychological issues compelled her to send naked pictures of herself out in the first place.

[Keevan_Colton]

I seriously doubt that bringing her to court on the very serious charge of child pornography (and possibly tossing her in juvie) is going to help correct whatever psychological issues compelled her to send naked pictures of herself out in the first place.

Did you catch the part about her being charged with abuse too?

[Darth Wong]

They're basically charging her with victimizing herself. Now I've seen it all ...

[Illuminatus Primus]

This shit isn't surprising; I've known slutty girls when I was a freshman who would webcam or use a camera and take slutty pictures of themselves. Pretty disturbing that this is frequent, really.

Friends at a West Palm Beach school know guys who got busted for creating a pornographic calender of themselves.

Morons.

[EmperorChrostas the Cruel]

You guys don't get it eh?
It is like this. The state is prosecuting the case.
Just like a woman doesn't have to press charges on a wife beating case if it is witnessed by the police. She no longer has a say in wheather or not it is prosecuted, as the justice system itself is a victim if the law can be broken with impunity.
Laws are funny things, setting precedants, and logical extentions.
The state is picking up the case on behalf of the victim.
The fact that the victim and the perpitrator are one and the same is irrelavant from a legal point of view, since this type of case is not specificaly mentioned in the statute as an exception.(victim and perp being one and the same.)
The same holds true if you go out into your own front yard, and bash your own car, with you own sledgehammer, you will be charged with felony vandalism. Ask James Brown about that one!
The legal theory is the victim doesn't have to press charges for there to be crime, OR victim. The state can and will prosecute victimless crimes, which by definition can't get a victim to press charges!
Clear enough?.

This is a FACT in California, as I have seen it happen.
Arrested for attempted suicide. But I won't press charges!. So what?

[Darth Wong]

The fact that it is legal does not change the fact that it is stupid. You're missing the point; we're criticizing the fact that this is possible, not arguing that it is not possible.

[Keevan_Colton]

Right, that's fucking moronic....would you charge someone that tried to commit suicide with "attempted murder" agaisnt themselves?

Dont be so fucking dense.

[General Zod]

it's like the old law that's still on the books in britain where you'll be sentenced to death if you try comitting suicide. it's idiotic.

[Solid Snake]

Right, that's fucking moronic....would you charge someone that tried to commit suicide with "attempted murder" agaisnt themselves?

Dont be so fucking dense.

In France back in the day, attempted suicide was punishable by death. Ha... Those crazy frogs.

[Keevan_Colton]

So, lets say she masturbated....would that qualify as her commiting child abuse against herself?

The reason for the illegality of suicide in those days was RELIGIOUS, it was a SIN. This smacks of the same stupid fundie mentality...

I do not disagree something would have to be done about the distribution of the pictures, however the ABUSE charge takes it beyond anything that could possibly be justified.

[Thag]

Looking at the article, it seems like the line about the sexual abuse of children seems more like a generic charge than involving more kids. Still, I would think that something more along the lines of public indecency or equivalent would be more appropriate than what she was charged with.

"In other news this evening, a wild bear was arrested on eight counts of disorderly conduct after defacating in the woods."

[kojikun]

I. Hate. People.

If she wants to take pics of herself getting off, so fucking what. Leave the kid be. She doesn't have any psychological disorder or anything. She's being human. She's going through puberty, she's clearly strutting her stuff in an early attempt to find a guy to fuck. Who the hell doesn't do that. Ugh.

And if this shit goes through, it effectively bans masturbation by minors because it's "child molestation". Ugh.

[EmperorChrostas the Cruel]

I hope they nail this cunt to the wall before they shoot her in the legal sence.
She is laying legal landmines that can destroy lives. Cops bust up her opperation, and sieze her computer. They check the web logs, and trace this to you.You downloaded load this picture, (under the impression it was legal)and BANG, you are a convicted sex offender. With all the wonderful stuff that follows. Even if you are not convicted, the stench will follow you forever.
Keevan, you are the fucking dense one here, as you clearly don't understand the difference between stating case law and agreeing with it. I don't see where I even IMPLIED I aproved, much less stated it.
I don't believe there IS such a thing as a victimless crime. No victim, no crime, as far as I am concerned.
Drugs, prostitution, and suicide shouldn't be in and of themselves be crimes.
The very TERM "legal fiction" seems absurd to ME, yet it is a well established legal precedant.
The law is full of stupid, mind boggling acts of insanity, but that is a whole DIFFERENT subject, not addessed by me at all in this thread, except in your mind.
DON'T confuse describing the law as written, ajudicated, and the theory behind it, with defending it.

The child abuse charge comes from the practice DAs have of frontloading a case with every concievable charge you can get out of a situation, even if the charges are redundant. This is for plea bargaining, (in hopes of sparing the state the cost of a trial) and for political reasons. (Inflating your conviction count) It is a tool of intimidation, to stampeed the defendant into not risking a trial. If the defendant doesn't panic, and goes to trial, the prosecution hopes to get licky and not have the charges thrown out increasing the conviction rate and record.
I find the tactic disgusting.
The picture in my mind of a coffin propped up at the Defendants table funny or tragic, as my mood changes.

[lance]

Going by this article I'm guilty on thirty-five hundred accounts of sex with a minor. Also I took a few thousand baths when I was a minor, I washed my genitles on at least half of those. So I also have over a thousand child molestation charges. So I think I should be in jail for longer than the existence of this country.