STGOD 4 Diplomacy Thread(at least for now)

Dahak · Post by **Dahak** » 2004-04-09 08:00pm

lazerus wrote:
A puzzled expression appeared on his perfect face.
"Just grow a new one? It's only a hull, a body. Nothing special..."
"Heh. We arn't software based, our minds are hardwired into our physical structure. When we die that information is lost, and when new "units" are made they have minds allready."

God, I can't beleive i'm actually having to explain that humans are born to this arrogant self-obsessed freaks.

He had to keep a traight face. And he nearly failed. He had to rely on his implants to keep his face straight.
"You really belive that...drivel? Then you haven't even begun to understand the human mind. For me, this body is just a hull. One I can change if I should so choose. To be limited to one space, one body. How...depressing..."

<<I somehow feel pity for them,>> he datasighed.
<<We can't help them. If they prefer to live in the darkness of their own existence...>> one of his assisstants on board the Demonstration of Force answered.

lazerus · Post by **lazerus** » 2004-04-09 08:00pm

"Odd that you should say that. Our troops' training is expensive; humanitarian concerns aside, simply throwing their lives away is a waste of all that training,"

"There are certan things i'm not allowed to say, but we have drasticaly reduced our training costs by building low-cost training centers. Making all the equipment resuable."
He thinks.
"Also, I was refering to troops that have been maimed to the point where they won't serve again, not troops that can be saved and reintegrated into the service."

lazerus · Post by **lazerus** » 2004-04-09 08:02pm

"You really belive that...drivel? Then you haven't even begun to understand the human mind. For me, this body is just a hull. One I can change if I should so choose. To be limited to one space, one body. How...depressing..."

"We dont' really mind. We actually did some experments into copying human mental signals into comptuers, they all ended badly. Although our sentiant AI growing process is quite advanced."

Dahak · Post by **Dahak** » 2004-04-09 08:07pm

lazerus wrote:
"You really belive that...drivel? Then you haven't even begun to understand the human mind. For me, this body is just a hull. One I can change if I should so choose. To be limited to one space, one body. How...depressing..."
"We dont' really mind. We actually did some experments into copying human mental signals into comptuers, they all ended badly. Although our sentiant AI growing process is quite advanced."

"That seems to be some seriously primitive computer technology you have there... Do you eve n have neural interfaces? You seriously need some centuries making it even past 'primitive'. But if it suits your needs..."

lazerus · Post by **lazerus** » 2004-04-09 08:09pm

"That seems to be some seriously primitive computer technology you have there... Do you eve n have neural interfaces? You seriously need some centuries making it even past 'primitive'. But if it suits your needs..."

"Yes, we have neural interfaces. We may be a bit behind, but we arn't completly primitive."

Jaded Masses · Post by **Jaded Masses** » 2004-04-09 09:12pm

The Psilons had been silent so far, and had remained unnoticed, despite being some of the few non-humans here. They all watched the proceedings and recorded all the details. He waited in till some of the "pleasantries" were exchanged then introduced himself.

"I am Ekter, an ambassador for the Psilon Imperium"

"Our species is new to the area and is in need of maps and history of this area of space, we are willing to pay in valuable metal, or perhaps technology."

"We also wish to begin trade with empires in this area of space, to do this efficiently we would like to set up star gates in systems, for easy transportation"

lazerus · Post by **lazerus** » 2004-04-09 09:17pm

"We would be happy to trade for raw materials, and allready have an efficent gate assembly and distrubuion system to speed that process up."

And the fact that that would let us spy on you and know every detail of your gate system is a nice side benifit.

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2004-04-09 09:18pm

"Welcome, Ambassador Ekter! On behalf of the Nashtar Republic, I welcome you and your people. We would be interested in trade, though star gates directly to our inner systems could be problematic to my superiors. Perhaps we can arrange for gates to an outer colony or uninhabited system for a trading post and let our own shipping take in the goods?" Shelton steepled his fingers and leaned on the table, awaiting a response.

Pablo Sanchez · Post by **Pablo Sanchez** » 2004-04-09 09:40pm

Dahak wrote:He had to keep a traight face. And he nearly failed. He had to rely on his implants to keep his face straight.
"You really belive that...drivel? Then you haven't even begun to understand the human mind. For me, this body is just a hull. One I can change if I should so choose. To be limited to one space, one body. How...depressing..."

"You're an amusingly self-important creature," Duke Peipus said with a cold smile.

"Excuse me?"

Peipus looked back to Malastaral, "I assume you're a fairly high level mage? Don't you find his childish posturing annoying? Their bodies and their consciousnesses exist in only the prime material plane, as weak flesh-bags or as electrical discharges--and they mumble platitudes about how advanced and free they are!

"Child," he continued, "there is more to me than you can percieve, hidden in another plane. And more to these other people as well. You left your soul behind when you copied your brain away. But enough of philosophy."

The Duke winked slightly at the Arcane Empire's envoy. The mage knew exactly what the Vampire referred to. The great and ancient Vampires were much greater in extent than their basic physical form showed. Much of their mass and power were hidden on other planes...

ooc:
my highest-end vampires are somewhat similar to those in Hellsing... they keep the largest portion of their bodies hidden...

Jaded Masses · Post by **Jaded Masses** » 2004-04-09 09:51pm

"It would be acceptable to set up trading posts for the benefit for all. what is a good system for you?"

"For trade we have liberal amounts of Iron, processed hydrogen, and technology. We would also be willing to set up solar power stations for your use, though we would man them our selves and take precautions to prevent them being copied. The station they work with is relatively small, but an extremely light sail can be unfurled spanning thousands of square miles in space. It provides cheap energy which we can beam to you with microwaves."

"And if the Jardanians have their own gate technology, we would be more then willing to use it, instead of ours"

lazerus · Post by **lazerus** » 2004-04-09 09:54pm

"We have need of Processed Hydrogen, as for the gate system, we always keep a number of gates on standby for millitary purposes. But i'm sure we could arrange for a few to be 'ported to your home system and activated right away."

Jaded Masses · Post by **Jaded Masses** » 2004-04-09 10:08pm

Like the Republic of Nashtar (Rogue9) we are leery of putting the ability to instantly arrive at our homeworld in the hands of unknowns. Perhaps a trading post can be created for all....

lazerus · Post by **lazerus** » 2004-04-09 10:10pm

"Our gate technology dosn't work that way, we could arrive in your home system just as fast without one. All the gate will do is let YOU dial out."

Jaded Masses · Post by **Jaded Masses** » 2004-04-09 10:15pm

I doubt that, we are very far away and I doubt you would have anything approaching accurate coordinates...

lazerus · Post by **lazerus** » 2004-04-09 10:16pm

"I was speaking technologily, not from a tacitcal standpoint. But if coordinates are a problem we could give you the gates and you ship them to your homeworld."

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2004-04-09 10:16pm

Jaded Masses wrote:"It would be acceptable to set up trading posts for the benefit for all. what is a good system for you?"

"For trade we have liberal amounts of Iron, processed hydrogen, and technology. We would also be willing to set up solar power stations for your use, though we would man them our selves and take precautions to prevent them being copied. The station they work with is relatively small, but an extremely light sail can be unfurled spanning thousands of square miles in space. It provides cheap energy which we can beam to you with microwaves."

"And if the Jardanians have their own gate technology, we would be more then willing to use it, instead of ours"

"Actually, our established trading colony is Verling Station. We have the trading post outside our core worlds because we are located in a dense star cluster, making navigation difficult and time consuming at faster than light speeds. The coordinates are here." Shelton slid a small datapad across the table after inserting a disk and punching up a file. "We prefer it if traders inform us of their arrival in advance so the traders can prepare the docks and payment can be ready. If you show up unannounced you may have to wait for other ships to clear the station."

Jaded Masses · Post by **Jaded Masses** » 2004-04-09 10:42pm

lazerus wrote:"I was speaking technologily, not from a tacitcal standpoint. But if coordinates are a problem we could give you the gates and you ship them to your homeworld."

Ah, that clears things.

Anyhoot, we would just as soon stay private and keep foreign objects out. We would rather set up our own gate at a neutral point where both of our gates can operate. A location in deep space would be preferable.

@Rogue9

Excellent, a gate ship should arrive with in the week, with a small escort while the gate is set up. When they get with in a few light years they will broadcast their arrival.

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2004-04-09 10:53pm

"Good. Glad to work with you. What sort of technology do you have for trade, and what do you wish in exchange? I will tell you that my government will likely be highly interested in truly efficient solar power. We live in a star cluster. The light's no problem." Shelton winked at that.

Jaded Masses · Post by **Jaded Masses** » 2004-04-09 11:12pm

We are experiencing several population booms and are in interested prefabricated civilian space stations and land arcologies to handle the pressure. We are also in need of maps and histories of the surrounding space.

In return we would be happy to set up solar power plants, however this would necessitate a larger military presence where ever you wish us to set up the plants, to protect them. We are not currently prepared to offer the technology it self. Due to our scientific bend, we have developed a limited number of excess supercomputers and research laboratories, which we would like to sell or trade to any interested parties. We have some 30 supercomputers, and 10 research labs avaliable as of now. They are of the finest quality. We also have iron and hydrogen in abundance, however we would rather sell those for money and buy from markets numbers of smaller items.

Jaded Masses · Post by **Jaded Masses** » 2004-04-09 11:16pm

To everyone else:

"I am interested if there is a commonly excepted currency that functions as an inter-empire exchange? if there isn't perhaps some of you want to form an economic alliance for that purpose alone?"

Darksider · Post by **Darksider** » 2004-04-09 11:25pm

The KSE ambassador turned to the Jardanian delegate

"The Asteroid field in the Cration system is our territory. If you want to mine it you can pay us just like the private corporations."

lazerus · Post by **lazerus** » 2004-04-10 12:13am

"The Asteroid field in the Cration system is our territory. If you want to mine it you can pay us just like the private corporations."

"From a diplmatic standpoint, I can prove we set markers in that asteroid field long before you even started scouting that system. From a practical standpoint as of......."
The admiral looks at his watch.
"7 minutes ago the miners would have begun conscrution of the prefab station, mining operations should begin within 2 days."

"I am interested if there is a commonly excepted currency that functions as an inter-empire exchange?

"Excellent idea, but what would this new currency be based on?"

we would just as soon stay private and keep foreign objects out. We would rather set up our own gate at a neutral point where both of our gates can operate. A location in deep space would be preferable.

"That can be arranged. Any perticular location?"

We are experiencing several population booms and are in interested prefabricated civilian space stations and land arcologies to handle the pressure. We are also in need of maps and histories of the surrounding space.

"We can provide the space stations and the maps in exchanged for supercombers and labs. Can we talk specifics?"

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2004-04-10 01:45am

Having completed their declaration before the assembly, the delegates of the Hajr spread out into the crowd, engagin an small talk and observing the proceedings. The earthbound's customs were both strange and interesting.

Jaded Masses · Post by **Jaded Masses** » 2004-04-10 01:59am

"Excellent idea, but what would this new currency be based on?"

I'm thinking we could base it off an average cost on producing usable energy. ergo, generally it costs x amount to release y amount of energy which corresponds to z amount of Galactica Bucks.

"That can be arranged. Any perticular location?"

The Republic of Nashtar will allow us to set up a general trading post (AIM) at the Verling system which will save us gate construction. We may trade though that gate.

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2004-04-10 02:02am

Jaded Masses wrote:We are experiencing several population booms and are in interested prefabricated civilian space stations and land arcologies to handle the pressure. We are also in need of maps and histories of the surrounding space.

In return we would be happy to set up solar power plants, however this would necessitate a larger military presence where ever you wish us to set up the plants, to protect them. We are not currently prepared to offer the technology it self. Due to our scientific bend, we have developed a limited number of excess supercomputers and research laboratories, which we would like to sell or trade to any interested parties. We have some 30 supercomputers, and 10 research labs avaliable as of now. They are of the finest quality. We also have iron and hydrogen in abundance, however we would rather sell those for money and buy from markets numbers of smaller items.

Ambassador Shelton smiled. "Check the datapad I gave you. The star charts for this entire quadrant are in there. Consider it a gesture of goodwill.

"We can do space stations. Civilian applications only makes it easier, though we also have military models if you are interested. What are you willing to trade in, say, supercomputers and use of a solar station for space stations capable of housing 10,000 comfortably?"