Fallout 2

[phongn]

...EPA base...

The...uh...
What?

That one geek kid mentions it when you talk to him. It was planned to be a fairly sprawling base, IIRC, but due to time constraints it was canned. It's a pity that, say, an extra month couldn't be allocated to FO2's development and for bugfixing.

[PeZook]

...EPA base...

The...uh...
What?

That one geek kid mentions it when you talk to him. It was planned to be a fairly sprawling base, IIRC, but due to time constraints it was canned. It's a pity that, say, an extra month couldn't be allocated to FO2's development and for bugfixing.

Well, I remember him talking about pre-holocaust military bases where you could find endorphine blockers, and the base is right where it's supposed to be
I must have missed something. Too bad Myron's already dead in the game i'm running now...

[Arthur_Tuxedo]

Chardok: You might check this link on how to get cool stuff early on - Navarro run (some spoilers)

IMHO going straight to Navarro right after Arroyo ruins the whole game.

No kidding. Or tagging steal and taking everything in sight, then loading whenever you get caught, or any of that kind of crap. Might as well just use a hacked character. Hell, might as well just uninstall the game because you're not going to have any more fun with it once you do stuff like that.

[Ghost Rider]

Chardok: You might check this link on how to get cool stuff early on - Navarro run (some spoilers)

IMHO going straight to Navarro right after Arroyo ruins the whole game.

No kidding. Or tagging steal and taking everything in sight, then loading whenever you get caught, or any of that kind of crap. Might as well just use a hacked character. Hell, might as well just uninstall the game because you're not going to have any more fun with it once you do stuff like that.

I've done it a couple times and yes it takes everything out.

Sorry when you're basically able to spit in the general direction...you're not playing the game.

Besides...the most fun is playing either a true thief(sneaky + high steal...and I mean HIGH) or diplomat. Combat is great in the beginning but bulldozing gets eh after the 10th time.

[phongn]

Well, once you beat the game it can be fun to use FALCHE and make an ubercharacter

And I was wrong on an earlier point. I thought FO2 was just rushed by a month or two ... no. It was rushed by eight months thanks to those fools at Interplay.

[Ghost Rider]

And I was wrong on an earlier point. I thought FO2 was just rushed by a month or two ... no. It was rushed by eight months thanks to those fools at Interplay.

Seriously?

I wonder what else was cut out?

[Oberleutnant]

And I was wrong on an earlier point. I thought FO2 was just rushed by a month or two ... no. It was rushed by eight months thanks to those fools at Interplay.

Seriously?

I wonder what else was cut out?

The Fallout Bible is your friend.

[Ghost Rider]

And I was wrong on an earlier point. I thought FO2 was just rushed by a month or two ... no. It was rushed by eight months thanks to those fools at Interplay.

Seriously?

I wonder what else was cut out?

The Fallout Bible is your friend.

Link?

[DPDarkPrimus]

http://fallout.blackisle.com/bible.html


Google is your friend.

[Oberleutnant]

Link?

In my post on the second page of this thread.


Edit: DPDarkPrimus got there first. Should refresh the page more often...

[Ghost Rider]

http://fallout.blackisle.com/bible.html


Google is your friend.

Danke...and yes I know that Google is my friend...I'm being lazy and a bitch

[The Yosemite Bear]

Yes, I was working on an ASVS patch with Rob as a book (Fanfics) peddeling Deathclaw as one of the encounters.....

Holodisk: Starcrossed
Holodisk: anotated version of DOZ's fanfics Vol I
Holodisk: As above but vol II
......
Holodisk: as the proceeding Holodisks but Vol MCXLIII
Holodisk: Mark Sheppard Fanfics: incompletly may result in pop boy crash....


Weapon: Phong's mallat of doom...

[Chardok]

Yeah, Thanks for the cool shit link, but I'm going to play the game honestly before I go fucking with the order of things. Seems wrong to have MkIII power armor or whatever so early on. Goddamn I forgot how much fun fallout was. Oh, and about the rehash, the reason I thought it was a rehas, is that I've played fallout 2 before apparently, not all the way through, or even close to all the way through. My brother had fallout 2 awhile back, but he only had one of the two disks (My version only has one disk) so I was only able to play until disk 2 was required. but anyway, Fuck this is fun. I'm playing a lucky, smart character now. weak, though. But with luck on my side and an imperial assload of brains, the conversations get REAL interesting. got me a doctor ghoul, and some dude named cassidy, and Vic. All have survived for awhile now, and are proving invaluable in combat. Still having the screen flashy problem, though. oh well. Back to the game...FUCK I'M ADDICTED!!! THE GAME IS LIKE JET!!! I GOT THE SHAKES BAD, MAN!

[Ghost Rider]

Vic isn't too bad. At least he's human and can wear Power Armor.

Cassidy, do not use any drugs...stims fine, but any drug will pretty much kill him. He becomes very nice with a Gauss.

Ghoul Doctor...eh...he's a bullet soaker.

[phongn]

Current party:

1. Vic: Hardened Power Armor, Gauss Rifle
2. Cassidy: Hardened Power Armor, Gauss Rifle
3. Sulik: Advanced Power Armor, G11E & Super Sledgehammer
4. Marcus: No Armor, Turbo Plasma Rifle
5. Lenny: Power Armor, Gauss Pistol
6. Me: Advanced Power Armor Mk. II, Gauss Pistol & Bozar

[Batman]

Current party:
1. Vic: Hardened Power Armor, Gauss Rifle
2. Cassidy: Hardened Power Armor, Gauss Rifle
3. Sulik: Advanced Power Armor, G11E & Super Sledgehammer
4. Marcus: No Armor, Turbo Plasma Rifle
5. Lenny: Power Armor, Gauss Pistol
6. Me: Advanced Power Armor Mk. II, Gauss Pistol & Bozar

5 party members? I could never gather the CHA for that.
My usual near-endgame lineup was

Vic:Advanced Power Armor, Gauss Rifle
Cassidy: Hardened Power Armor, Gauss Rifle
Sulik: Hardened Power Armor, G11E
Me: Power Armor, Bozar & Sniper Rifle

[phongn]

Oh, no, this is a 'cheat' game so my Charisma was 10

Marcus really seems to like the Turbo Plasma Rifle -- in fact, he'll favor it over the Vindicator. Vic might favor energy weapons at the end, too -- I've checked the Bible, it shows Energy Weapons at 10 points higher than Small Guns. I'll give him my pulse rifle if it works out

Lenny is kinda useless, I'm afraid. I'm tempted to replace him with Skynet + Gauss Rifle.

The Bozar is really wonderful ... I find it works better than the Vindicator, plus the ammunition is dirt cheap and plentiful. I also have Bonus Rate of Fire and Fast Shot, so my Gauss Pistol only takes 2 AP to fire

[Ghost Rider]

Oh, no, this is a 'cheat' game so my Charisma was 10

Fun isn't it...course with my cheat I called myself the Living God(ah to have straight tens...a variety of skills and perks on level 1...and going HtH because not short of another god is going to hit or hurt me.)

Marcus really seems to like the Turbo Plasma Rifle -- in fact, he'll favor it over the Vindicator. Vic might favor energy weapons at the end, too -- I've checked the Bible, it shows Energy Weapons at 10 points higher than Small Guns. I'll give him my pulse rifle if it works out

Cool...didn't know Vic liked the energy...someone to use the Eletro Pulse rifles.

Lenny is kinda useless, I'm afraid. I'm tempted to replace him with Skynet + Gauss Rifle.

Skynet is fun but a wee bit testy since he can't use Stims and his armor is average.

The Bozar is really wonderful ... I find it works better than the Vindicator, plus the ammunition is dirt cheap and plentiful. I also have Bonus Rate of Fire and Fast Shot, so my Gauss Pistol only takes 2 AP to fire

Booyah.

That and Bozar can be a mean and nasty kill gun when you're in front...thus not worrying about some yokel of your getting fragged.

[Pablo Sanchez]

The Bozar is really wonderful ... I find it works better than the Vindicator, plus the ammunition is dirt cheap and plentiful. I also have Bonus Rate of Fire and Fast Shot, so my Gauss Pistol only takes 2 AP to fire

But then you miss out on the fun of shooting everyone in the groin. I played one game with a FALCHE'd character wherein every attack was a called shot to the groin (except for robots, of course). Frank Horrigan was clearly messing with the wrong dude, but he only realized it after I pounded a few 2mm EC rounds into his groinal plate and knocked him to his knees.

[Batman]

Oh, no, this is a 'cheat' game so my Charisma was 10

Ah, 'kay. That explains that.

Marcus really seems to like the Turbo Plasma Rifle -- in fact, he'll favor it over the Vindicator. Vic might favor energy weapons at the end, too -- I've checked the Bible, it shows Energy Weapons at 10 points higher than Small Guns. I'll give him my pulse rifle if it works out

I've never liked Marcus due to his inability to wear armor. My power-armored colleagues went down fast enough as it is.*shrugs*
Vic with a pulse rifle sounds nifty, though
*ponders wether to restart FO2 AGAIN*

Lenny is kinda useless, I'm afraid. I'm tempted to replace him with Skynet + Gauss Rifle.

Who in blazes is Lenny? And I always found the SCI investment needed to get Skynet (130+ IIRC) to be way out of proportion to the benefit of getting that robot.

The Bozar is really wonderful ... I find it works better than the Vindicator, plus the ammunition is dirt cheap and plentiful.

No 'I find' about it. If you do the calcs, the Bozar has the second best per-round damage of all the bullet-using guns in the game. Combine this with the availability of .223 and the Bozars narrow field-of-fire...

[phongn]

But then you miss out on the fun of shooting everyone in the groin. I played one game with a FALCHE'd character wherein every attack was a called shot to the groin (except for robots, of course). Frank Horrigan was clearly messing with the wrong dude, but he only realized it after I pounded a few 2mm EC rounds into his groinal plate and knocked him to his knees.

Oh, I did that before -- I grabbed every bonus for a sniper-character I could (increased damage, sniper, sharpshooter, etc.) and went for the groin in one variation. In another I just used the Bozar a few times while he dealt with the gun turrets and the squad I persuaded to join up (who, according to the FO Bible lived on and fought in many adventures).

Fun isn't it...course with my cheat I called myself the Living God(ah to have straight tens...a variety of skills and perks on level 1...and going HtH because not short of another god is going to hit or hurt me.)

I did that and hunted geckos with my bare hands

Cool...didn't know Vic liked the energy...someone to use the Eletro Pulse rifles.

Yes. I never had use for it, what with my preference for the Bozar/Gauss Pistol combo. Imagine the carnage a place could do if they made a Gatling Gauss Gun or even twin-turreted gauss rifles.

Skynet is fun but a wee bit testy since he can't use Stims and his armor is average.

Yeah, that's the problem with him -- average armor, no stims -- but he does autorepair.

That and Bozar can be a mean and nasty kill gun when you're in front...thus not worrying about some yokel of your getting fragged.

Oh, yes. I went in New Reno, became a Made Man for the Wright Family and proceeded to mow everyone else down

Lenny is kinda useless, I'm afraid. I'm tempted to replace him with Skynet + Gauss Rifle.

Who in blazes is Lenny? And I always found the SCI investment needed to get Skynet (130+ IIRC) to be way out of proportion to the benefit of getting that robot.

Lenny is the guy next to Harold in Gecko. He's primarily a doctor, but is okay with handguns.

No 'I find' about it. If you do the calcs, the Bozar has the second best per-round damage of all the bullet-using guns in the game. Combine this with the availability of .223 and the Bozars narrow field-of-fire...

Exactly. I actually calculated that the Avenger theoretically had the best firepower, but it sprays rounds everywhere and there's no way you can get near the max roll for each round.

[Shadowhawk]

Pfft.
The best party members are the two cyberdogs and Dogmeat.

Sure, they won't last against Hubologists, Press Gangs, or Enclave Patrols, but still.

Ok, I think I need to reinstall the games now.

[Chardok]

Update:

Sadly, Vic was killed last night. The victim of a wanamingo strike. He, like the moron that he is, failed to follow orders and stay close to me as we Dusted off. Cassidy and Lenny and I made it out fine. In fact, we did better than fine, we fucked up that whole nest. We're now heading off to the toxic caves again to see if'n we can pick that elevator lock. I bet there's some neat stuff down there.

Vic's epitaph:

Here lies Vic.
Dipshit. Got what he deserved.

For all time
upon silver wings you fly
clear blue skies above you, like a
Kite in the breeze
Your life blew
out.
up, up, up, until heaven you reach.


(Read the first letters of the poem, going down to see a secret message! I saw an actual picture of a headstone with something like this, that spelled "Fuck you" I stole the idea. If you've seen it before and it's not funny to you, read the first letters again to hear my response!


OHm and has anyone else noticed that burst mode for most guns isn't worth it? My best weapon so far is an eyeshot with my .223 sniper rifle. I can kill wanamingos with two or three shots. In fact, with my current weapons, that's about the only thing that does any appreciable god damn damage to the things. I Just BARELY managed to clean out those bastardized caves last night. Now I gotta figure out how to take the Khans...hopefully there's some cool Gang member killing stuff in the toxic caves vault thingy. I hit it lucky at the tables and bought a boatload of books in san fran, now my science, and doctor and stuff is pretty up there, but my lockpicking still sucks...hope the electronic lockpicks healp.

[phongn]

Sadly, Vic was killed last night. The victim of a wanamingo strike. He, like the moron that he is, failed to follow orders and stay close to me as we Dusted off. Cassidy and Lenny and I made it out fine. In fact, we did better than fine, we fucked up that whole nest. We're now heading off to the toxic caves again to see if'n we can pick that elevator lock. I bet there's some neat stuff down there.

Pity, because Vic becomes useful if you have to repair stuff and he's an extra gun. There are others that you can pick up, though.

So did you sell back the deed for a nice $1500 profit?

OHm and has anyone else noticed that burst mode for most guns isn't worth it? My best weapon so far is an eyeshot with my .223 sniper rifle. I can kill wanamingos with two or three shots. In fact, with my current weapons, that's about the only thing that does any appreciable god damn damage to the things. I Just BARELY managed to clean out those bastardized caves last night. Now I gotta figure out how to take the Khans...hopefully there's some cool Gang member killing stuff in the toxic caves vault thingy. I hit it lucky at the tables and bought a boatload of books in san fran, now my science, and doctor and stuff is pretty up there, but my lockpicking still sucks...hope the electronic lockpicks healp.

Burst mode for most weapons is indeed not worth it. The Sniper Rifle will serve you well, too. As for the Toxic Caves, remember to find some Rubber Boots and wear them, otherwise you'll take damage and eventually grow a mutated toe. Finally, you must use an electronic lockpick on the door. Repair the generator, too.

[Pablo Sanchez]

Finally, you must use an electronic lockpick on the door. Repair the generator, too.

What about the killbot at the bottom of the stairs? I remember that one reaming me pretty bad, but then again I wasn't expecting it.