More Janet Jackson-related bullshit

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2004-04-12 01:23am

Glocksman wrote:It's not only the fundamentalists, you have the feminist whackos as well.
Olga Vives, vice president of the National Organization for Women, praised the cancelation, saying the show only objectifies women.

"We're concerned young women think they have to look this way," Vives said, adding she hoped the cancelation is permanent.
Assholes come in more stripes than just 'fundamentalist'.

True, but the fundies actually have the clout, the will, and the general disregard for civil rights to make these things happen. NOW has been largely marginalized.

Peregrin Toker · Post by **Peregrin Toker** » 2004-04-12 02:59am

Glocksman wrote:It's not only the fundamentalists, you have the feminist whackos as well.

Olga Vives, vice president of the National Organization for Women, praised the cancelation, saying the show only objectifies women.

"We're concerned young women think they have to look this way," Vives said, adding she hoped the cancelation is permanent.
Assholes come in more stripes than just 'fundamentalist'.

Well, there are certain models whose breasts are barely existant, so if Olga Vives are referring to them, I fully understand her concerns...

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2004-04-12 03:08am

Glocksman wrote:It's not only the fundamentalists, you have the feminist whackos as well.

Olga Vives, vice president of the National Organization for Women, praised the cancelation, saying the show only objectifies women.

"We're concerned young women think they have to look this way," Vives said, adding she hoped the cancelation is permanent.
Assholes come in more stripes than just 'fundamentalist'.

Yes, because as an Asian male, I worry about how I compare in regards to the characters I see in movies. It seems like in Asian movies, you have Asian males killing hundreds of people.

God damn, if that doesn't make me feel inadequate.

I guess she figures that young women obviously have such low self-esteem and the only solution is just to cancel shit, instead of addressing the actual problem.

18-Till-I-Die · Post by **18-Till-I-Die** » 2004-04-12 08:04am

neoolong wrote:
Glocksman wrote:It's not only the fundamentalists, you have the feminist whackos as well.

Olga Vives, vice president of the National Organization for Women, praised the cancelation, saying the show only objectifies women.

"We're concerned young women think they have to look this way," Vives said, adding she hoped the cancelation is permanent.
Assholes come in more stripes than just 'fundamentalist'.
Yes, because as an Asian male, I worry about how I compare in regards to the characters I see in movies. It seems like in Asian movies, you have Asian males killing hundreds of people.

God damn, if that doesn't make me feel inadequate.

I guess she figures that young women obviously have such low self-esteem and the only solution is just to cancel shit, instead of addressing the actual problem.

Your implying these anti-sexuality nutjobs have anything behind them besides their own pent-up sexual tensions. They could give a flying fuck about how girls feel or how 'our morality is effected', they dont want to experience sexuality because it reminds them hey cannot enjoy it.

Dahak · Post by **Dahak** » 2004-04-12 09:31am

Darth Wong wrote:One of the interesting comments I saw on this resurgence of puritanism in America was on CNN where they mentioned a politician commenting that they justify these actions because of the fear that American TV will "degenerate toward Europe's level" in terms of sexual liberation.

Is Europe so reviled in the US that it can be used rhetorically as the end of a slippery slope?

I can't see anything like that happening here.
Heck, we had a strip show in TV some 15 years ago, and uncountable naked bodies on TV.
But I don't see the Earth opening up and swallowing Yurop for not being pure and True to the Bible...

General Zod · Post by **General Zod** » 2004-04-12 09:42am

Darth Wong wrote:One of the interesting comments I saw on this resurgence of puritanism in America was on CNN where they mentioned a politician commenting that they justify these actions because of the fear that American TV will "degenerate toward Europe's level" in terms of sexual liberation.

Is Europe so reviled in the US that it can be used rhetorically as the end of a slippery slope?

the fundie prudes are just upset that the rest of the world is getting nookie while they aren't. So they want to make sure that if they aren't getting any, neither is anyone else.[/sarcasm]

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2004-04-12 12:34pm

18-Till-I-Die wrote:Your implying these anti-sexuality nutjobs have anything behind them besides their own pent-up sexual tensions. They could give a flying fuck about how girls feel or how 'our morality is effected', they dont want to experience sexuality because it reminds them hey cannot enjoy it.

That was sort of my point.

18-Till-I-Die · Post by **18-Till-I-Die** » 2004-04-12 01:22pm

neoolong wrote:
18-Till-I-Die wrote:Your implying these anti-sexuality nutjobs have anything behind them besides their own pent-up sexual tensions. They could give a flying fuck about how girls feel or how 'our morality is effected', they dont want to experience sexuality because it reminds them hey cannot enjoy it.
That was sort of my point.

Ah, gotcha. I was just expanding on the point.

salm · Post by **salm** » 2004-04-12 03:03pm

i found a link to a victoria´s secret, USA advertisement from 2007:

Linky