STGOD 4 OOC Thread

Pablo Sanchez · Post by **Pablo Sanchez** » 2004-04-14 08:28am

The lost Prophet wrote:Kinda new to this site, who is the mod of this STGOD, is he/she online currently, and could i PM you to talk about jumping in (wanna run some ideas by you)

Send me a PM, sometime, I'll probably get back to you today at some point.

lazerus · Post by **lazerus** » 2004-04-14 02:23pm

Problem solved. I reckon that as per the agreement made with the Krytos, the Ousters will demand that the Edean system be placed under their control. Since the ringworld is clearly an abomination, it's major centers of industry will be destroyed from orbit, it's shipyards and starships will be destroyed, and it will be let to it's natives. In a couple game-month's time, the system will be colonized by Ousters, and until then, a forwards military base will be built in the asteroid field.

edit:

I meant to say the Ousters will colonize the system- after demolishing it's industry, the Ringworld will be left alone.

That's an act of war, attacking my territory.

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2004-04-14 02:41pm

lazerus wrote:
Problem solved. I reckon that as per the agreement made with the Krytos, the Ousters will demand that the Edean system be placed under their control. Since the ringworld is clearly an abomination, it's major centers of industry will be destroyed from orbit, it's shipyards and starships will be destroyed, and it will be let to it's natives. In a couple game-month's time, the system will be colonized by Ousters, and until then, a forwards military base will be built in the asteroid field.

edit:

I meant to say the Ousters will colonize the system- after demolishing it's industry, the Ringworld will be left alone.
That's an act of war, attacking my territory.

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2004-04-14 03:37pm

It's an act of war it you want it to be. There are plenty of Covenant border systems in need of new management, and perhaps your forces would be better spent occupying them than getting into a lengthy military engagement with a force on which you have little information.

I should point out that your poorly distributed navy would leave you very open to counterattacks should you decide to press the issue- and that you have no Superdreadnoughts in your OOB, which is oddd, becausr you appear to have one deployed over Edean.

lazerus · Post by **lazerus** » 2004-04-14 04:36pm

It's my flagship.

And i'm not interested in pissant planets. The only reason I got involved in this war was because I wanted the ringworld.

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2004-04-14 04:46pm

-shrug-

Suit yourself. I don't think you'll be able to hold it, but whatevs. Your choice....

lazerus · Post by **lazerus** » 2004-04-14 04:59pm

Hold it in the long run, maybe not, but I can still kick your ass in the here and now.

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2004-04-14 05:01pm

Fraid not.

lazerus · Post by **lazerus** » 2004-04-14 05:13pm

Fraid so, unless you brought your entire fleet your outgunned.

Well, I suppose you could godmode your way out.

lazerus · Post by **lazerus** » 2004-04-14 05:13pm

.........or you could run away.

Pablo Sanchez · Post by **Pablo Sanchez** » 2004-04-14 05:54pm

lazerus wrote:It's my flagship.

It's not in your OOB, so it doesn't exist. You're allowed to fudge minor details but not something like a superdreadnought with a bunch of firepower.

And i'm not interested in pissant planets. The only reason I got involved in this war was because I wanted the ringworld.

Considering your behind-the-scenes bullshit and the fact that an easy surrender of the ringworld would be 100% out of character for religious fanatics, you're not going to be allowed to take possession of anything more than a burned husk; one way or the other.

lazerus · Post by **lazerus** » 2004-04-14 05:58pm

It's not in your OOB, so it doesn't exist. You're allowed to fudge minor details but not something like a superdreadnought with a bunch of firepower.

Fine, scratch 2 drednaughts from my OOB and add the super.

Considering your behind-the-scenes bullshit and the fact that an easy surrender of the ringworld would be 100% out of character for religious fanatics, you're not going to be allowed to take possession of anything more than a burned husk; one way or the other.

Do I detect a trace of bitterness.

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2004-04-14 05:58pm

Actually, with the main gun capable of destroying a small moon, I think that 4-5 DNs would be more appropriate.

I WAS just gonna treat your DNs as BBs....

lazerus · Post by **lazerus** » 2004-04-14 06:00pm

Ok, fine, scratch 5DN's

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2004-04-14 06:02pm

Hold on, tiger. Any empire needs numerous worlds devoted to mining resources to supply the major planets with raw materials for the real factories. A secondary world devoted to mining would almost certainly NOT have planetary shields.

lazerus · Post by **lazerus** » 2004-04-14 06:05pm

On a major millitary power that exists in a perpetual "War Economy", that just had it's defenses set to Red Alert, yes it does.

Sides, we mine asteroids in remote systems mostly.

Bugsby · Post by **Bugsby** » 2004-04-14 06:06pm

Now whos God moding?

EDIT: And btw, he said "secondary," not second. Your second most important world might have shields. "Secondary worlds" meaning "worlds of less than primary importance" would not.

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2004-04-14 06:08pm

Lazerus, I think it's safe to say that EVERY power has 6-7 worlds or systems which supply resources to the central worlds, which they can't afford to defend with full planetary shielding (something which has been established as a very expensive luxury.) That's why we have picket fleets and reserve squadrons for planetary defense.

If not hull materials, then chemicals, or circuit boards, or whatever.

Marcao · Post by **Marcao** » 2004-04-14 06:08pm

Most core worlds should have a planetary shield, this being heavily industrialized and populated worlds. Anything more, and it starts ushering strategic immobility. The fact remains that the -entire- Jardanian navy went off to kick some ass. If primary and secondary worlds are equipped with planetary shields, there is no way for you to pay for that blunder. Which is BS. Let me guess, your colony worlds have planetary shields too?

Dahak · Post by **Dahak** » 2004-04-14 06:10pm

Thirdfain wrote:Lazerus, I think it's safe to say that EVERY power has 6-7 worlds or systems which supply resources to the central worlds, which they can't afford to defend with full planetary shielding (something which has been established as a very expensive luxury.) That's why we have picket fleets and reserve squadrons for planetary defense.

If not hull materials, then chemicals, or circuit boards, or whatever.

I only have two systems (plus a small one with outpost), but since I don't need "normal" planets, I have plenty of resources to mine in those...

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2004-04-14 06:13pm

Even in your situation, you would need sources of raw materials which can't be found on gas giants. Asteroid belts only have so much in them, you'd need to have mining colonies in surrounding systems i you plan on maving manufacturing power as high as some of the powers with 12-20 systems.

Dahak · Post by **Dahak** » 2004-04-14 06:15pm

Thirdfain wrote:Even in your situation, you would need sources of raw materials which can't be found on gas giants. Asteroid belts only have so much in them, you'd need to have mining colonies in surrounding systems i you plan on maving manufacturing power as high as some of the powers with 12-20 systems.

That's what you have moons and other planets for. Since no one needs them, I can happily strip mine planets as they come.

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2004-04-14 06:16pm

Ah! good point, good point. Nothing wwrong with wrecking the biosphere if you won't use the place.

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2004-04-14 06:21pm

Oh, bTW, Lazerus, I'm placing this before the GM.

I would say that with most of your fleet gone, you would have numerous planets of some economic or industrial significance unprotected, and that it would be unreasonable for these worlds to all be defended by planetary shields.

I would accept a 1-2 ingame delay on your next run of completed capships as a loss for the bombardment of the world, taking in to account time needed to rebuild and get supply flowing again.

lazerus · Post by **lazerus** » 2004-04-14 07:11pm

And I would argue that most if not all of my mining is done in asteroid belts or gas giants, the few resourses that I don't get that way I can trade for.

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