Even at a cursory glance after many an anime con I can usually grasp within a year or two of the average 13-15 year old who dresses skimpier then most strip joints, but Milla herself has a full bodies figure and her face has some youth but hardly the same fullness of a 15 year old.
I don't exactly understand this, exactly what do you mean?
I don't know how old you are but there comes a point in your life where a 15 or 16 year old kid looks like a kid. When you are 15-20, she may look hot but as you mature they look like kids.
Mostly because they are.
I work with people of all ages (18-50's) and sometimes a teenager will come in for one reason or another and alot of the younger guys at work will swoon. I look and I see a scantly clad kid.
Mila has age on her. Not a bad thing, just she is obviously fully grown. No plumpness of teenagers still growing or developing, and not the overdone inexperienced makeup, dress, ect....(granted, she's a modle and actress, so sometimes the make up and dress are exagerated).
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But as far as board culture in general, I do think that young male overaggression is a contributing factor to the general atmosphere of hostility. It's not SOS and the Mess throwing hand grenades all over the forum- Red
Knife wrote:
I don't know how old you are but there comes a point in your life where a 15 or 16 year old kid looks like a kid. When you are 15-20, she may look hot but as you mature they look like kids.
(emphasis mine)
Ah, explains why I think Milla looks 16...
Mila has age on her. Not a bad thing, just she is obviously fully grown. No plumpness of teenagers still growing or developing, and not the overdone inexperienced makeup, dress, ect....(granted, she's a modle and actress, so sometimes the make up and dress are exagerated).
"plumpness of teenagers still growing"? Exactly what do you mean?
And "obviously fully grown"? I still think her breasts are awfully small for someone her age.
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I almost can't believe that this started from you complaining that you didn't like the size of Milla Jovovich's tits. Seriously, the fact that you defended yourself to reach this point is mind-boggling.
I generally prefer smaller breasts, like C and under, because that's just what I like.
I'm 22 years old and girls under 17 might as well be children to me, because that's all I can see them as. Some may be cute, some may be pretty, but they are still children in my eyes.
Jovovich looks nothing like a child to me, and everything like a thin, somewhat small-chested beautiful woman.
To be blunt, Simon, you're just fucked up.
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The Kernel wrote:PT, are you really saying that this woman isn't hot?
(looks at pic)
I'm sorry, but her mammary glands appear completely vestigial on that pic. Practically nonexistant breasts are among the biggest turnoffs I can think of... this side of The Innsmouth Look.
Sorry, but in my book, that constitutes a smoking hot piece of heavenly ass.
In my book, that constitutes proof that beauty is a 100% subjective concept.
Spanky the Dolphin wrote:How old are you, Simon?
I'm a bit uncomfortable with giving away personal details, but let's just say that I'm above the age of consent but not old enough to vote.
I almost can't believe that this started from you complaining that you didn't like the size of Milla Jovovich's tits. Seriously, the fact that you defended yourself to reach this point is mind-boggling.
At least I didn't pull the eating disorder card! (unless the mention of Calista Flockhart counts...)
To be blunt, Simon, you're just fucked up.
Thank you for stating the blindingly obvious.
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The thing I liked about the movie is it looked like fundies had lost pretty much all power. I mean, almost all the women in the movie dressed like *that*, and no religious nuts complaining about it, I wouldn't mind living in that future, grease and all.
Oh, and if orange-head (whatever her name is, Lee-something) had a bigger chest, I believe I wouldn't find her as attractive as I do now. Some women make small chests work for them, she's one of them.
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Peregrin Toker, your entire concept of female beauty seems to be one-dimensionally tied up in breast size. That's superficial and utterly ridiculous; you have pretty much stated that you would be completely unattracted to a woman who was beautiful in every other way but didn't have big tits. You seem to think that women without big tits always look childish; I would say that guys who are one-dimensionally obsessed with big tits are childish. Grow up.
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I am mistaken for someone 10-15 years my junior from a distance, until close enough to see the wrinkles on my face.
Many of the signs of "aging," are in fact a result of bad habits prematurly aging the body.
Case in point, elasticity of the skin, and wrinkles, or lack thereof. Cigarette smoking, and over exposure to the sun cause the skin to become less elastic, giving the "granular" look to skin pulled tight. When the skin hangs under it's own weight, like "granny tricep", it is usuasly because the skin has been flexed so much, so many times, it has permanently streched.
Gravity and elasticity are in a tug of war, which gravity eventualy wins. Giving gravity a boost, through abuse by environment make you look older, faster.
Also, as you age and prosper, your metabolism and your activity level both decline, leading to putting on a few pounds a year. This is cumulative, and accelerates gravities pull. Being fatter makes you look older.
I, like my father, am very lean, from genetics.
THEREFORE, taking good care of your skin, (sunblock, no smoking, getting vitamins) and staying physicaly fit, working out more, (because you no longer need your muscles for money or trasportaion) automaticaly makes you look younger.
Bear in mind there is genetics as well. Some of my peers had full beards in high school, whereas I grew 2 inches taller in my 23rd year. I know this, because I was in the US Army, and had to buy new uniforms!
You don't start getting old, until you fully mature, but you can "pseudo"age yourself with bad habits long before you are mature.
When you get a case of delayed maturity, combined with healthy choices, the person in question "looks like a kid" from a distance, until you get close enough to examine the bone structure.
Tennagers look somewhat different from adults, because the brain part of the skull reaches full size before the jaw grows into it.
I believe that is what Knife is refering to as "lookes like a kid." Unconsciously he has determined the bone structure is immature, reguardless of the hips and breasts.
Big tits are NOT an absolute sign af age. There are many a double D in highschool, and even some in juniour high. Hell, there are aready some with decent sized tits inelementary school.
Just as slim figures are not a sign of youth.
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Peregrin Toker wrote:I'd rather take a woman who's 29 and looks like a 29-year old over one who's 29 but looks like she's 16.
And I'd take one who's 16 and whose parents would never press charges........ did I say that out loud?
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Darth Wong wrote:Peregrin Toker, your entire concept of female beauty seems to be one-dimensionally tied up in breast size. That's superficial and utterly ridiculous; you have pretty much stated that you would be completely unattracted to a woman who was beautiful in every other way but didn't have big tits.
What a huge obvious strawman.
My entire concept of female beauty is NOT tied one-dimensionally up in breast size.
I know plenty of females who don't have particularly big racks but nonetheless are very hot.
What you're saying is basically that I only find women attractive if they have really big tits. That's a total misrepresentation of my preference - I can easily find moderately-endowed women hot, what I don't like are women whose breasts appear vestigial.
What I priorize highest in terms of looks are a pretty face and some actual body curvature. (the latter which Milla lacks)
Besides - I'm not the only one who doesn't find Milla attractive:
[Milla Jovovich] is incredibly skinny, and has a face that says "I'm stupid". I ask; what's there to find attractive? - "Caylen-Tor", this thread on the Bal-Sagoth forum
As for Milla Jovovich? I just don?t get it. Oh, sure, I get it on Luc Besson?s part; he was sleeping with her. Nevertheless, she looks like a 14 year old boy with really awful skin in this movie; that "bandage" get up is practically revolting, and for so many to absolutely fawn over how "gorgeous" she looks here? Just don?t get it. - Ziggy's Video Realm's review of The 5th Element
You might also ask Zaia of this very forum, who IIRC has lost a lot of potential boyfriends due to women which Z. herself describes as "model-thin little twiggies". (a definition which probably coined to describe Milla Jovovich and her ilk)
So it's not as if my opinion is some sort of freakish anomaly.
You seem to think that women without big tits always look childish; I would say that guys who are one-dimensionally obsessed with big tits are childish. Grow up.
So I'm one-dimensionally obsessed with big tits because I prefer women who actually are curvaceous? Funny that you, of all people, resort to strawman fallacies.
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Peregrin Toker wrote:I'd rather take a woman who's 29 and looks like a 29-year old over one who's 29 but looks like she's 16.
And I'd take one who's 16 and whose parents would never press charges........ did I say that out loud?
if you live in Japan or some european countries, 16 is legal.
in japan 13 is legal.
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See, now that's just wrong. Joking about it is one thing, but letting children decide to have sex is not cool. Adults already show abominable judgement when confronted with sex, and somehow it's a good idea to let someone who's irrational by definition make those decisions?
Do you know how easy it is to cajole teenagers into doing stupid things? "No, we don't need to wear a condom, baby, you just urinate right afterwards and you won't get pregnant." "Oh OK"
For anyone who would defend 16 and younger ages of consent, I ask you this three part question: Can that same 16 year old sign a legally binding contract? Why not? So why should she be allowed to make a decision that can ruin her life?
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fgalkin wrote:Only on SDN will a discussion of a kickass movie turn into a discussion of Milla's rack (or lack thereof).
I'm definitely with fgalkin there... i wasn't expecting THIS turn of affairs! a little about milla, sure, but i was thinking more along a discussion of the movie in general... but who am I to complain, with all these sweet pics being posted!
Darth_Zod wrote:what makes you think anyone here is actually defending it?
Nothing. I anticipated that someone might, though.
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Peregrin Toker wrote:What a huge obvious strawman.
Yeah, sure.
My entire concept of female beauty is NOT tied one-dimensionally up in breast size.
Bullshit.
I know plenty of females who don't have particularly big racks but nonetheless are very hot.
Milla doesn't have a particularly big rack. Yet that is the only flaw you described in her up till this post (when you started inventing a lot of other ad hoc reasons to justify your earlier statement), and as a result, you say she is totally unattractive.
What you're saying is basically that I only find women attractive if they have really big tits. That's a total misrepresentation of my preference - I can easily find moderately-endowed women hot, what I don't like are women whose breasts appear vestigial.
What the fuck does "vestigial" mean in this context, asshole? I'm sick of people who make up bullshit pseudo-terms to avoid saying what they actually think in straight English. YOU THINK WOMEN WITH SMALL BREASTS ARE ALL UNATTRACTIVE, IRRESPECTIVE OF THEIR OTHER QUALITIES. Your hair-splitting with semantics does not change this fact, and that's what I'd call a one-dimensional obsession with breast size.
What I priorize highest in terms of looks are a pretty face and some actual body curvature. (the latter which Milla lacks)
...<snip more anti-Milla ranting>
Frankly, this sounds just like you're trying to justify your earlier bullshit statement that a woman can look hot in every other way but be ugly if she has small tits.
So I'm one-dimensionally obsessed with big tits because I prefer women who actually are curvaceous? Funny that you, of all people, resort to strawman fallacies.
I know bullshit when I see it, and your bullshit is oozing out of your fucking ears. You said that small breasts are "among the biggest turnoffs I can think of", which says it all right there. You find a woman ugly if she has small breasts. Period. One-dimensional attitude personified.
Not only that, but you're not man enough to admit it when you say something stupid, so you try to pretend that it was a "strawman" to take your own statements at face value and not invent a lot of extra bullshit which you subsequently tried to pretend was somehow magically implied by your statements.
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