Bush Pushes for Expanded Patriot Act

Oni Koneko Damien · Post by **Oni Koneko Damien** » 2004-04-20 11:37am

It is a bad sign when a single event in the country will tie together pretty much every possible viewpoint in opposition to it. I mean, how fucking stupid does our president have to be to make a decision that unites pretty much every political viewpoint on this board against him? Normally you'll get a wide array of views on a given topic, but this time, well, take a look at it:

Prez: I want to renew the Patriot Act.

Far Right: Get the fuck out of our country you fascist asshole.
Right: Ditto
Moderates: Ditto
Left: Ditto
Far Left: Ditto
Independents: Ditto.

-Damien

Ma Deuce · Post by **Ma Deuce** » 2004-04-20 12:54pm

Oni Koneko Damien wrote:<snip>

Indeed. We can only hope that this will become Team Bush's fatal mistake...

BoredShirtless · Post by **BoredShirtless** » 2004-04-20 12:56pm

Ma Deuce wrote:
Oni Koneko Damien wrote:<snip>
Indeed. We can only hope that this will become Team Bush's fatal mistake...

Have you seen the latest polls? Bush is actually breaking away from Kerry! What the fuck?!

Col. Crackpot · Post by **Col. Crackpot** » 2004-04-20 01:04pm

BoredShirtless wrote:
Ma Deuce wrote:
Oni Koneko Damien wrote:<snip>
Indeed. We can only hope that this will become Team Bush's fatal mistake...
Have you seen the latest polls? Bush is actually breaking away from Kerry! What the fuck?!

thats because Kerry is a no balls waffler and is now backing away from his rehtoric from the primaries. He now opposes removing troops from Iraq. He opposes gay marriage. he is advocating corporate assistance to prevent outsourcing. etc..... All of this and the Kerrys refuse to turn over their income tax information and Kerry now refuses to release his military records after he demanded Bush do the same.

BoredShirtless · Post by **BoredShirtless** » 2004-04-20 01:39pm

Crackpot, do you have sources to back your cries of backpedaling?

Ma Deuce · Post by **Ma Deuce** » 2004-04-20 02:54pm

All of this and the Kerrys refuse to turn over their income tax information and Kerry now refuses to release his military records after he demanded Bush do the same.

What is he thinking?! He is refusing to turn over his military records when he demanded his opponent do so, especially since Bush actually complied with that demand

. Kerry is shooting himself in the foot, and now he is probably going to lose (unless Team Bush has a fuckup so stupendous, that all their previous bungling would absolutely pale in comparison). If Kerry loses this election, it's his own fault

.

Thankfully, there is the 2-term limit (Bush could still do alot of damage in the next 4 years, however). How I wished there was such a thing in Canada after Mssr. Cretin was elected to a third term...

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » 2004-04-20 03:15pm

Col. Crackpot wrote: He now opposes removing troops from Iraq.

I don't know about the others, but this is understandable. While a year ago I may have said that I wanted our boys out of there as soon as possible, now that's simply not feasible. There is too much violence, and we've already made our bed there. We'd better sleep in it.

Col. Crackpot · Post by **Col. Crackpot** » 2004-04-20 03:20pm

BoredShirtless wrote:Crackpot, do you have sources to back your cries of backpedaling?

The Boston Globeis reporting that Kerry refuses to release all of his military records. The same thing he demand of Bush. To which Bush did comply.

Newsmaxis reporting that the Kerrys are refusing to disclose all of their income and tax info to the public.

The Miami Heraldreports that he against gay marriage, and supports the half assed civil unions comromise.

The Miami Herald wrote:Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry says he believes people are born gay but are not guaranteed the right to marry within their own gender.

USA Today reports that Kerry actualy favors increasing the troop deployments in Iraq.

John Kerry wrote:"if it requires more troops in order to create the stability that eliminates the chaos...that's what we have to do."

that good enough BS?

Ma Deuce · Post by **Ma Deuce** » 2004-04-20 03:36pm

Col. Crackpot wrote: Newsmax is reporting that the Kerrys are refusing to disclose all of their income and tax info to the public.

Except that I tend not to believe stuff I read on Newsmax unless I see the same story in other sources...

consequences · Post by **consequences** » 2004-04-20 08:00pm

Great, so we're going to be stuck under Herr Bush for four more years because we didn't want a President who raised their voice.
On the plus side, I'll be getting a decent paycheck helping to crush terrorists under the iron heel of democracy(Post edited by the Patriot Commision)

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2004-04-20 11:49pm

So are they going to literally piss on the bill of rights and the magna carta instead of just figurativly?

JME2 · Post by **JME2** » 2004-04-21 12:17am

The Yosemite Bear wrote:So are they going to literally piss on the bill of rights and the magna carta instead of just figurativly?

If Bush has his way, yah.

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2004-04-21 12:24am

So at what point does Geneva allow for our invasion in order to restore basic civil rights....

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2004-04-21 12:25am

Locke calls for us to rise up and take back our government, by force if need be...

JME2 · Post by **JME2** » 2004-04-21 12:43am

Alyrium Denryle wrote:Locke calls for us to rise up and take back our government, by force if need be...

Well under normal circumstanses, kicking the ass of a Texan would, well, kick ass. However, these are not normal circumstanses...

JME2 · Post by **JME2** » 2004-04-21 01:16am

In any event, with the current mess that this world is, even Caligula's going 'What the f*** are you people doing?!"

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » 2004-04-21 01:58am

The NY Times is reporting that Kerry is releasing all of his military records.

BoredShirtless · Post by **BoredShirtless** » 2004-04-21 06:21am

Col. Crackpot wrote:that good enough BS?

Nope. You said he's waffling and backpedaling. He's waffling on the gay marriage issue, but that's about it as far as I can see.

Col. Crackpot · Post by **Col. Crackpot** » 2004-04-21 06:41am

BoredShirtless wrote:
Col. Crackpot wrote:that good enough BS?
Nope. You said he's waffling and backpedaling. He's waffling on the gay marriage issue, but that's about it as far as I can see.

what about the tax issue? he can effectively make millions of dollars and hide it in her name, because she says she's entitled to privacy. Well i've got news for her, if she want to be first lady, privacy is not an option. The American public is entitled to know where the first family gets their money.

BoredShirtless · Post by **BoredShirtless** » 2004-04-21 07:07am

Col. Crackpot wrote:
BoredShirtless wrote:
Col. Crackpot wrote:that good enough BS?
Nope. You said he's waffling and backpedaling. He's waffling on the gay marriage issue, but that's about it as far as I can see.
what about the tax issue? he can effectively make millions of dollars and hide it in her name, because she says she's entitled to privacy. Well i've got news for her, if she want to be first lady, privacy is not an option. The American public is entitled to know where the first family gets their money.

Is that all you got? Sheesh.

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2004-04-21 06:35pm

Crackpot, I think the real reason you're not voting for Kerry is because he's a Democrat.

Really though, I think it's kinda obvious that in such a polarized sitution as we find ourselves in today, any vote not for Kerry is a vote for Bush. Kerry is the lesser of two evils; another four years of Bush and the country will be ruined.

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2004-04-21 06:39pm

I would rather be taxed a little more by a democrat and be able to complain about it, than be arrested for sedition for complaining about the fiscal policy of a republican.

The Aliens · Post by **The Aliens** » 2004-04-21 07:22pm

Chardok wrote:Mike, can you point me to a site detailing the requirements for canadian citizenship? Vympel, I need to know Australia's, too, just in case. Canada is just...*too* close....

OFF-TOPIC:

Requirements to be a Canadian Citizen are to have lived in Canada for 3 of the past 4 years, be 18 years of age, speak English or French fluently, and be able to pass a basic test of Canadian history and laws.

JME2 · Post by **JME2** » 2004-04-21 08:57pm

The Aliens wrote:
Chardok wrote:Mike, can you point me to a site detailing the requirements for canadian citizenship? Vympel, I need to know Australia's, too, just in case. Canada is just...*too* close....
OFF-TOPIC:

Requirements to be a Canadian Citizen are to have lived in Canada for 3 of the past 4 years, be 18 years of age, speak English or French fluently, and be able to pass a basic test of Canadian history and laws.

Sounds like a sure-deal to me.

Xenophobe3691 · Post by **Xenophobe3691** » 2004-04-21 09:35pm

Meest wrote:What's scary is the civil war word being used more and more, dunno if that supposed time traveller was just a good political analyst but its coming up more and more.

Forgot who said it but it was during the Rice interview that a democrat tried to stop the crowd from cheering and mentioned that leads to civil war.

Can you find out who it was and when it happened? That's extremely interesting...