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Al-Jazeera has a track record of accurate reporting - which is why its journalists have been criminalised and its offices bombed

Arthur Neslen
Wednesday April 21, 2004

When US forces recently demanded that a team from the Arabic TV station al-Jazeera leave Falluja as a condition for reaching a ceasefire with the local resistance, it came as no surprise at the network's headquarters in Doha. Reliable sources there say that coalition officials threatened to close down the al-Jazeera bureau in Baghdad earlier this year and last week sent a letter accusing the network of violating the Geneva convention and the principles of a free press.

Since the "war on terror" began, al-Jazeera has been a thorn in the side of the Pentagon. "My solution is to change the channel," Brigadier General Mark Kimmitt said this month in Baghdad, "to a legitimate, authoritative, honest news station. The stations that are showing Americans intentionally killing women and children are not legitimate news sources."

The trouble for Kimmitt is that millions of people in the Middle East disagree. Al-Jazeera has become the most popular TV network in the region - with a daily audience of 35 million - precisely because it has shown the human carnage that US military onslaughts leave in their wake. If it became a "legitimate, authoritative, honest news station" of the kind that routinely censors the realities of US military operations, it would lose its audience.

The al-Jazeera reports of US snipers firing at women and children in the streets of Falluja have now been corroborated by international observers in the city. Perhaps it is natural that a military force should seek to suppress evidence that could be used against it in future war crimes trials. But it is equally natural that a free media should resist.

Democratising the Middle East may have been the neo-cons' case for the conquest of Iraq. But on the ground, the US is acting against the flowering of Middle East media freedom, which al-Jazeera initiated.

The station was launched in 1996, by disenchanted BBC journalists, after Saudi investors pulled the plug on the Arabic TV division of the BBC News service. Since then, it has spawned a plethora of competitors such as EDTV, Abu Dhabi TV, the Lebanese Broadcasting Company and, most significantly, al-Arabiya. Like al-Jazeera, al-Arabiya has been banned by the US-appointed Iraqi governing council for weeks at a time for "incitement to murder", after airing tapes of Saddam Hussein. Two of its journalists were shot dead by US forces at a US checkpoint in March.

Last November, George Bush declared that successful societies "limit the power of the state and the military ... and allow room for independent newspapers and broadcast media". But three days earlier, an al-Jazeera camera man, Salah Hassan, had been arrested in Iraq, held incommunicado in a chicken-coup-sized cell and forced to stand hooded, bound and naked for up to 11 hours at a time. He was beaten by US soldiers who would address him only as "al-Jazeera" or "bitch". Finally, after a month, he was dumped on a street just outside Baghdad, in the same vomit-stained red jumpsuit that he had been detained in.

Twenty other al-Jazeera journalists have been arrested and jailed by US forces in Iraq and one, Tariq Ayoub, was killed last April when a US tank fired a shell at the al-Jazeera offices in Baghdad's Palestine hotel. It was an accident, the Pentagon said, even though al-Jazeera had given the Pentagon the coordinates of its Baghdad offices before the war began.

As the invasion was getting underway, aljazeera.net was taken offline by a hacker attack mounted from California by John William Racine III. With a maximum tariff of 25 years available, the US attorney's office agreed a sentence of 1,000 hours community service.

Ever since al-Jazeera broadcast videotapes of Osama bin Laden in the aftermath of the 9/11 attacks, Washington has treated it like a fifth column. There have been allegations that intense pressure from the White House led the network to silence some of its more outspoken journalists, such as aljazeera.net's senior website editor, Yvonne Ridley, who was dismissed in November 2003.

In the weeks following 9/11, Colin Powell visited Emir al-Thani, the ruler of Qatar - and financier of al-Jazeera - to request that he rein in his country's free press. The emir went public about Powell's mission and, during the subsequent war in Afghanistan, al-Jazeera's offices in Kabul were bombed - by accident, the Pentagon said.

Sami al-Haj, an al-Jazeera cameraman seized in Afghanistan, remains detained in Guantánamo Bay to this day, and al-Jazeera's journalists in the west have been singled out. After attending the European social forum in Paris, I myself was detained for an hour by British special branch officers at Waterloo station. The questioning focused on my employer. The officers also wanted information about other al-Jazeera journalists in Paris and London, and asked if I would speak to someone in their office on a regular basis about my work contacts. I declined both requests.

The targeting of al-Jazeera is all the more remarkable, given that it is the only Arab TV network to routinely offer Israeli, US and British officials a platform to argue their case. The Israeli cabinet minister Gideon Ezra famously told the Jerusalem Post: "I wish all Arab media were like al-Jazeera". Kenton Keith, the former US ambassador to Qatar, commented: "You have to be a supporter of al-Jazeera, even if you have to hold your nose sometimes."

Al-Jazeera has a track record of honest and accurate reporting, and has maintained a principled pluralism in the face of brutal and authoritarian regimes within the region, and increasingly from those without. This is why it has been vilified, criminalised and bombed. It is also why it should be defended by those who genuinely believe that successful societies depend upon an independent media.

· Arthur Neslen was until last week London correspondent for aljazeera.net. He is writing a book about Israeli identity for Pluto Press
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I think...

Bullshit.

What international observers? Sorry, I was IN the army. no fucking way you will EVER convince me that american snipers say, "LOOK! Iraqi woman! Let's SHOOT her!!!"

Complete bullshit, until I see EVIDENCE to the contrary.
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Chardok wrote:I think...

Bullshit.

What international observers? Sorry, I was IN the army. no fucking way you will EVER convince me that american snipers say, "LOOK! Iraqi woman! Let's SHOOT her!!!"

Complete bullshit, until I see EVIDENCE to the contrary.
You won't accept anything less than real-time streaming video. I hope you levy this same level of evidence against the claims of the US.
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Stark wrote:You won't accept anything less than real-time streaming video. I hope you levy this same level of evidence against the claims of the US.
He does. Just look at his new sig. :wink:
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Stark wrote:You won't accept anything less than real-time streaming video. I hope you levy this same level of evidence against the claims of the US.
As its very hard, if not damned near impossible to find real-time streaming video coming out of Falluja, a cursory search on Google gives the following results:

Getting aid past US snipers is impossible

Americans slaughtering women & children In Falluja

Christian peacemakers report killings of women and children by US troops in Fallujah
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Chardok wrote:I think...

Bullshit.

What international observers? Sorry, I was IN the army. no fucking way you will EVER convince me that american snipers say, "LOOK! Iraqi woman! Let's SHOOT her!!!"

Complete bullshit, until I see EVIDENCE to the contrary.
And unless you are subscribing to a grand international conspiracy among aid workers and reporters, I don't see why this evidence shoudl not be sufficient.
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Supreme_Warlord wrote:
Chardok wrote:I think...

Bullshit.

What international observers? Sorry, I was IN the army. no fucking way you will EVER convince me that american snipers say, "LOOK! Iraqi woman! Let's SHOOT her!!!"

Complete bullshit, until I see EVIDENCE to the contrary.
And unless you are subscribing to a grand international conspiracy among aid workers and reporters, I don't see why this evidence shoudl not be sufficient.
Get Reuters, the BBC, the CSM, the NYT, hell anyone on the higher end of the credibility hierarchy to report it and I'll believe it. I'm with Chardok on this one.
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Joe wrote:
Supreme_Warlord wrote:
Chardok wrote:I think...

Bullshit.

What international observers? Sorry, I was IN the army. no fucking way you will EVER convince me that american snipers say, "LOOK! Iraqi woman! Let's SHOOT her!!!"

Complete bullshit, until I see EVIDENCE to the contrary.
And unless you are subscribing to a grand international conspiracy among aid workers and reporters, I don't see why this evidence shoudl not be sufficient.
Get Reuters, the BBC, the CSM, the NYT, hell anyone on the higher end of the credibility hierarchy to report it and I'll believe it. I'm with Chardok on this one.
If any of those people had incriminating footage, do you think they'd screen it?
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let me get this straight, we are supposed to believe a quote with no link to a source? and then when asked for a source we are given links to a tabloid and the websites of two politcal groups. Thats akin to saying God exists because the Roman Catholic Newsletter, and the GOP and Christian Coalition websites have op-ed pieces that say he does. :roll: if this wasn't sad it would be funny.
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www.rense.com

A site who, on the main page, has an ad for a book about our ancestors coming from the stars, and THEY'RE COMING BACK!!! :roll:

We saw mainly bullet wounds for the majority of civilians. Families are getting injured when they try to leave the house, trying to escape for Baghdad. A bullet goes astray or it gets them in their house. Then a lot of people are injured from shelling. They get hit by shrapnel that gets into the house
Yeah, Snipers AIMING for women and children. My ass.
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I think this speaks for itself.

anyway, fallujah is a warzone, If there are "Friendly fire" Sniper incidents, I HIGHLY doubt the ROE state "Shoot anything that moves" Probably more like "Shoot anything that moves after curfew." With an enemy like the one we are currently facing, well, the casualties are...regrettable...but unavoidable.

I could always take the other side's propagandist route and say: "THE INSURGENTS ARE DOING IT! THEY SHOOT AT PEOPLE AND BLAME THE U.S.!!!!!
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I call BS with everyone else. Those "sources" you listed are hardly credible. If US snipers were targetting women and children, it would be ALL OVER THE FRICKEN NEWS, not just the shaky-at-best Guardian or the outright insane www.rense.com.
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