Attention AOL Users!

Kamakazie Sith · Post by **Kamakazie Sith** » 2004-04-23 12:42pm

CrimsonRaine wrote:
Rogue 9 wrote:Or DarkStar. Or Kelly Antilles. Or TK. Or that athletics group that invaded a long time ago. Or any other one of the myriad people this board's pissed off in its existence.
Hm. Kelly Antilles may have..well, been very irate with certain members of this board but she left on her own accord. From my information, other trolls would probably be more guilty.

Needless to say this does not warrant any intelligence on AOL and its techs.. I still say we affirm that AOHell sucks, adding to an already long list of shitty things that company does.

'Raine

AOLs techs have nothing to do with this. That's like blaming the cashier for the policies of the store.

Tsyroc · Post by **Tsyroc** » 2004-04-23 12:52pm

SyntaxVorlon wrote:What I want to know is who the fuck is calling SDnet a spammer domain?

On the current AOL 9.0 there's a nice little button at the bottom of your inbox that says "spam". You can designate any mail you want as spam. It's right next to the "delete" so I can see where people might get in the habbit of hitting "report spam" instead of "delete". You can go back and correct the error later but I imagine that some people don't notice what they've done or others really intended to do it.

Leave it to AOL to come up with something that's supposed to make the internet simple but still let's boneheads jack things up.

JME2 · Post by **JME2** » 2004-04-23 01:34pm

Rogue 9 wrote:Against the computer? Man, you suck, I was talking about on battle.net.

My LAN doesn't support battle.net. I suck on Starcraft, but do decently with Armada II.

Tsyroc · Post by **Tsyroc** » 2004-04-23 01:36pm

Anyway, I asked earlier about email address from sd.net and since everyone has been rushing to help here are a couple I came up with.

mike@stardestroyer.net
bbs@stardestroyer.net

and these which I'm not sure exists or not. admin@stardestroyer.net or maybe it's administrator@stardestroyer.net

So, if AOL's crap is working like it says it's supposed to work putting those email address in your address book should let them through regardless of how much everyone else has reported them as spam or if you've got the rest of your settings all jacked up.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2004-04-23 04:38pm

All E-mails sent from this board have the return address bbs@stardestroyer.net. However, I don't think AOL is filtering on the E-mail address per se; that's too easy to spoof. I thnk they're filtering on the SMTP server, so E-mail coming from the bbs.stardestroyer.net E-mail SMTP server is being rejected. If I sent it from my home computer, it goes through my ISP's SMTP server rather than the BBS server, so there's no problem.

In short, the problem is that the board itself has been put on the spamlist based on its IP address. And I can't get it off the blacklist because they have a very narrow set of requirements for getting off the blacklist, and we don't meet it. I'm not sure what effect internal complaints would have, or this address-book idea that Tysroc came up with.

Sharp-kun · Post by **Sharp-kun** » 2004-04-23 04:45pm

Darth Wong wrote: In short, the problem is that the board itself has been put on the spamlist based on its IP address. And I can't get it off the blacklist because they have a very narrow set of requirements for getting off the blacklist, and we don't meet it.

What are the requirements?

CrimsonRaine · Post by **CrimsonRaine** » 2004-04-23 04:51pm

Kamakazie Sith wrote:
CrimsonRaine wrote:
Rogue 9 wrote:Or DarkStar. Or Kelly Antilles. Or TK. Or that athletics group that invaded a long time ago. Or any other one of the myriad people this board's pissed off in its existence.
Hm. Kelly Antilles may have..well, been very irate with certain members of this board but she left on her own accord. From my information, other trolls would probably be more guilty.

Needless to say this does not warrant any intelligence on AOL and its techs.. I still say we affirm that AOHell sucks, adding to an already long list of shitty things that company does.

'Raine
AOLs techs have nothing to do with this. That's like blaming the cashier for the policies of the store.

I believe I said AOL in there, brainiac.

'Raine

Batman · Post by **Batman** » 2004-04-23 05:00pm

CrimsonRaine wrote:
Kamakazie Sith wrote:
CrimsonRaine wrote:*snippety-snip*
Needless to say this does not warrant any intelligence on AOL and its techs..
'Raine
AOLs techs have nothing to do with this. That's like blaming the cashier for the policies of the store.
I believe I said AOL in there, brainiac.
'Raine

Emphasis mine. You DID include their techs, which makes Sith's critisism valid.
While I have no love for AOL, the one time I needed their tech support they were more than up to the task.
'Course, that was AOL Germany, who are supposedly not quite as stupid as their parent company.

EDITed to fix quote tags

Kamakazie Sith · Post by **Kamakazie Sith** » 2004-04-23 05:37pm

Batman wrote:
CrimsonRaine wrote:
Kamakazie Sith wrote: AOLs techs have nothing to do with this. That's like blaming the cashier for the policies of the store.
I believe I said AOL in there, brainiac.
'Raine
Emphasis mine. You DID include their techs, which makes Sith's critisism valid.
While I have no love for AOL, the one time I needed their tech support they were more than up to the task.
'Course, that was AOL Germany, who are supposedly not quite as stupid as their parent company.

EDITed to fix quote tags

Hopefully not. AOL in the US likes to layoff their experienced employees and hire people with no computer experience at all so they won't question what the little helper programs solution is. I imagine it'll only be a matter of time before the same thing happens all over.

muse · Post by **muse** » 2004-04-23 06:12pm

*snort* go figure, considering that AOHell is responsible for over half the spam in my throwaway email account...

Frank Hipper · Post by **Frank Hipper** » 2004-04-23 07:36pm

Tsyroc wrote:
SyntaxVorlon wrote:What I want to know is who the fuck is calling SDnet a spammer domain?

On the current AOL 9.0 there's a nice little button at the bottom of your inbox that says "spam". You can designate any mail you want as spam. It's right next to the "delete" so I can see where people might get in the habbit of hitting "report spam" instead of "delete". You can go back and correct the error later but I imagine that some people don't notice what they've done or others really intended to do it.

Leave it to AOL to come up with something that's supposed to make the internet simple but still let's boneheads jack things up.

That was my first thought.
I, however, take the time to at least read who the sender was before reporting spam, although I've been tempted to report The History Channel out of pure spite.

Alyeska · Post by **Alyeska** » 2004-04-23 08:53pm

Rogue 9 wrote:Apparently some members of the board are highly offended that I would name Kelly Antilles among the possibilities for this occurrence. I withdraw the statement.

Well those people need to grow a fucking spine and not get so sensitive about someone who was PERMANENTLY BANNED.

darthdavid · Post by **darthdavid** » 2004-04-23 09:06pm

I say we launch a retailtory campaign against aohell. Find every important aol adress that the company it's self uses and sign them up to about 800 spam lists.

Wicked Pilot · Post by **Wicked Pilot** » 2004-04-23 10:34pm

Ummm, don't use AOL.

Problem solved.

Tsyroc · Post by **Tsyroc** » 2004-04-24 12:01am

Darth Wong wrote:All E-mails sent from this board have the return address bbs@stardestroyer.net. However, I don't think AOL is filtering on the E-mail address per se; that's too easy to spoof. I thnk they're filtering on the SMTP server, so E-mail coming from the bbs.stardestroyer.net E-mail SMTP server is being rejected. If I sent it from my home computer, it goes through my ISP's SMTP server rather than the BBS server, so there's no problem.

In short, the problem is that the board itself has been put on the spamlist based on its IP address. And I can't get it off the blacklist because they have a very narrow set of requirements for getting off the blacklist, and we don't meet it. I'm not sure what effect internal complaints would have, or this address-book idea that Tysroc came up with.

So far I don't think my address book idea will work. I got one PM today that I should have been notified by email and it didn't come through.

Well, I've emailed AOL about the problem so I'll let people know how it goes.

darthdavid · Post by **darthdavid** » 2004-04-24 12:07am

Ditch AOHell then. They're stoopid, overpriced and unreilable.

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2004-04-24 12:08am

darthdavid wrote:I say we launch a retailtory campaign against aohell. Find every important aol adress that the company it's self uses and sign them up to about 800 spam lists.

Umm...no.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-04-24 12:18am

darthdavid wrote:I say we launch a retailtory campaign against aohell. Find every important aol adress that the company it's self uses and sign them up to about 800 spam lists.

You really learn nothing, do you?

darthdavid · Post by **darthdavid** » 2004-04-24 12:40am

I think your sarcasm detector needs a tune up.

Nathan F · Post by **Nathan F** » 2004-04-24 12:48am

Just a suggestion, but shouldn't this be stickied somewhere?

JME2 · Post by **JME2** » 2004-04-24 01:09am

darthdavid wrote:I think your sarcasm detector needs a tune up.

Heh. The will of the people...

The Aliens · Post by **The Aliens** » 2004-04-24 12:23pm

Why would you use AOl in the first place? Jusy get a free Hotmail account and change your mailing address to that (you can do that once you've registered, correct?)

Post by **Dalton** » 2004-04-24 01:19pm

The Aliens wrote:Why would you use AOl in the first place? Jusy get a free Hotmail account and change your mailing address to that (you can do that once you've registered, correct?)

Can't register period if you put in a Hotmail address, unless under special circumstances.

The Aliens · Post by **The Aliens** » 2004-04-24 04:14pm

Dalton wrote:
The Aliens wrote:Why would you use AOl in the first place? Jusy get a free Hotmail account and change your mailing address to that (you can do that once you've registered, correct?)
Can't register period if you put in a Hotmail address, unless under special circumstances.

Can't be changed after the fact?

General Zod · Post by **General Zod** » 2004-04-24 04:19pm

The Aliens wrote:
Dalton wrote:
The Aliens wrote:Why would you use AOl in the first place? Jusy get a free Hotmail account and change your mailing address to that (you can do that once you've registered, correct?)
Can't register period if you put in a Hotmail address, unless under special circumstances.
Can't be changed after the fact?

You can change it after you've been approved. Which as i mentioned earlier i did myself a week or two ago.