Attention AOL Users!

Post by **Dalton** » 2004-04-24 05:20pm

The Aliens wrote:
Dalton wrote:
The Aliens wrote:Why would you use AOl in the first place? Jusy get a free Hotmail account and change your mailing address to that (you can do that once you've registered, correct?)
Can't register period if you put in a Hotmail address, unless under special circumstances.
Can't be changed after the fact?

If you're approved.

The Aliens · Post by **The Aliens** » 2004-04-24 05:53pm

Ohhh, I understand- you can't get approved to change your e-mail on AOL because it's not accepting any e-mails from here. So if you've registered on an AOL account and haven't logged in at least once, you're out of luck. I'm a freaking idiot.

Einhander Sn0m4n · Post by **Einhander Sn0m4n** » 2004-04-24 05:58pm

Stupid AOL!

www.findanisp.com www.dslreports.com

There

Problem Solved.

Post by **The Wookiee** » 2004-04-24 09:21pm

The Aliens wrote:Ohhh, I understand- you can't get approved to change your e-mail on AOL because it's not accepting any e-mails from here. So if you've registered on an AOL account and haven't logged in at least once, you're out of luck. I'm a freaking idiot.

Well, you can't get approved to even have an account here if you have AOL because of the spam blacklist. So you're fucked from the start.

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2004-04-24 09:23pm

Well damn it.

Post by **The Wookiee** » 2004-04-24 09:23pm

Rogue 9 wrote:Well damn it.

I *guess* they could work around it by asking an admin to change their email or posting a request in testing...

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2004-04-24 09:29pm

Damn AOHell to... Itself, I suppose.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2004-04-24 11:07pm

The Wookiee wrote:
The Aliens wrote:Ohhh, I understand- you can't get approved to change your e-mail on AOL because it's not accepting any e-mails from here. So if you've registered on an AOL account and haven't logged in at least once, you're out of luck. I'm a freaking idiot.
Well, you can't get approved to even have an account here if you have AOL because of the spam blacklist. So you're fucked from the start.

That's not strictly true; if one of us sends the activation link from our own home E-mail account, it will get through even if the "From" field is a stardestroyer.net E-mail address, because the SMTP server won't be bbs.stardestroyer.net, and that's what AOL is blacklisting (I tested this earlier, by sending an E-mail from one of my stardestroyer.net addresses to an AOLer).

However, an AOLer would be unable to change his account E-mail on his own, because it will send a confirmation E-mail to the AOL address before the E-mail address change takes effect, and this confirmation E-mail will naturally come from the board rather than one of our own home computers, so it will be bounced.

Just a damned mess all around; maybe internal complaints will alleviate the problem.

Tsyroc · Post by **Tsyroc** » 2004-04-25 05:35am

Darth Wong wrote: That's not strictly true; if one of us sends the activation link from our own home E-mail account, it will get through even if the "From" field is a stardestroyer.net E-mail address, because the SMTP server won't be bbs.stardestroyer.net, and that's what AOL is blacklisting (I tested this earlier, by sending an E-mail from one of my stardestroyer.net addresses to an AOLer).

If I'm following this correctly what your saying means that even if you changed the email address bbs@stardestroyer.net to something slightly different it would still be blocked by AOL because it's originating from the same SMTP server (not that I know what that is)?

Does this also mean that AOL would block items that are sent from the original SMTP server that are forwarded from a second server (please let me know if I'm being totally clueless here because I really don't know what I'm asking)?

Just a damned mess all around; maybe internal complaints will alleviate the problem.

Let's hope so. I've been complaining alot and I think I got the problem fully explained to them this time.

Phantasee · Post by **Phantasee** » 2004-04-25 04:35pm

Ok I don't have an AOL account, but when I registered I used my dad's email. I can't check that, and I got in trouble when I checked it to get my activation email. So could I change it to my regular hotmail account in my profile? Just wondering...

Vertigo1 · Post by **Vertigo1** » 2004-04-25 06:30pm

Tsyroc wrote: If I'm following this correctly what your saying means that even if you changed the email address bbs@stardestroyer.net to something slightly different it would still be blocked by AOL because it's originating from the same SMTP server (not that I know what that is)?

Does this also mean that AOL would block items that are sent from the original SMTP server that are forwarded from a second server (please let me know if I'm being totally clueless here because I really don't know what I'm asking)?

SMTP = Simple Mail Transfer Protocol. An SMTP server is an actual mail server. This is what AOL is blocking. Mike could have an e-mail addy of "freeporn@fuckoffspammers.com and it would still be blocked by AOL. The e-mail address doesn't matter, its the server ITSELF thats being blacklisted.

Tsyroc · Post by **Tsyroc** » 2004-04-26 12:36pm

Vertigo1 wrote: SMTP = Simple Mail Transfer Protocol. An SMTP server is an actual mail server. This is what AOL is blocking. Mike could have an e-mail addy of "freeporn@fuckoffspammers.com and it would still be blocked by AOL. The e-mail address doesn't matter, its the server ITSELF thats being blacklisted.

Gotcha.

Anyway, so far I've recieved one Official Email from AOL regarding my original comments about their spam blocker. It didn't really tell me anything I didn't already know so I'm waiting to see if I get anything from the follow up messages I sent.

So far, adjusting the settings on my email has just let more spam through but still no bbs@stardestroyer.net.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2004-04-26 04:34pm

You know, for all those people that are putting blame on certain people, you're dead wrong.

AOL has a shitty spam filter and it tends to catch any instituational mailing and automatically dump it in a spam folder. The board's notification Emails are among those so labeled. The contents of said spam folder, unless the user goes in and corrects the mistake wind up being sent to AOL as spammers. Enough of these wound up going through and we got nailed.

Trolls have nothing to do with it, just the usual AOL shit.

Einhander Sn0m4n · Post by **Einhander Sn0m4n** » 2004-04-26 04:44pm

Stormbringer wrote:You know, for all those people that are putting blame on certain people, you're dead wrong.

AOL has a shitty spam filter and it tends to catch any instituational mailing and automatically dump it in a spam folder. The board's notification Emails are among those so labeled. The contents of said spam folder, unless the user goes in and corrects the mistake wind up being sent to AOL as spammers. Enough of these wound up going through and we got nailed.

Trolls have nothing to do with it, just the usual AOL shit.

So what you're saying, it's all AOL's fault. I can believe that any day.

As I said before:

Einhander Sn0m4n wrote:Stupid AOL!

www.findanisp.com www.dslreports.com

There Problem Solved.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2004-04-26 05:16pm

Einhander Sn0m4n wrote:
Stormbringer wrote:You know, for all those people that are putting blame on certain people, you're dead wrong.

AOL has a shitty spam filter and it tends to catch any instituational mailing and automatically dump it in a spam folder. The board's notification Emails are among those so labeled. The contents of said spam folder, unless the user goes in and corrects the mistake wind up being sent to AOL as spammers. Enough of these wound up going through and we got nailed.

Trolls have nothing to do with it, just the usual AOL shit.
So what you're saying, it's all AOL's fault. I can believe that any day.

Yup, that's what I'm saying.

Tsyroc · Post by **Tsyroc** » 2004-04-27 05:06am

Stormbringer wrote:You know, for all those people that are putting blame on certain people, you're dead wrong.

AOL has a shitty spam filter and it tends to catch any instituational mailing and automatically dump it in a spam folder. The board's notification Emails are among those so labeled. The contents of said spam folder, unless the user goes in and corrects the mistake wind up being sent to AOL as spammers. Enough of these wound up going through and we got nailed.

Trolls have nothing to do with it, just the usual AOL shit.

That's pretty much what I've thought.

What's annoying is that they say that their spam filter will always let through people in your address book. Well, it doesn't seem to be working for me. Either that or it takes a long damn time for the settings to take effect.

It didn't take long for more of their spam to get through when I shut off their filter though.