Is Man the Fifth Race? (SG-1 Question)

Stravo · Post by **Stravo** » 2004-04-25 04:24pm

I watched the first three seasons religiously but lost interest for awhile, occasionally popping in and out and I always wondered if humans were the sixth race that would join the ancients. I always suspected that as the case. I was also interested in the near mythical status humans have as the Tokarai (I think I got that right).

If this question has already been answered in the series please forgive me, but I just haven't been keeping up.

Keevan_Colton · Post by **Keevan_Colton** » 2004-04-25 04:27pm

Stravo wrote:I watched the first three seasons religiously but lost interest for awhile, occasionally popping in and out and I always wondered if humans were the sixth race that would join the ancients. I always suspected that as the case. I was also interested in the near mythical status humans have as the Tokarai (I think I got that right).

If this question has already been answered in the series please forgive me, but I just haven't been keeping up.

You mean fifth race, and according to the Asgaard we were on our way to being it

CaptainChewbacca · Post by **CaptainChewbacca** » 2004-04-25 05:15pm

Unless, of course, humans are ancients, in which case we're the first AND fifth race. Those aliens from "Space Race" would be the sixth.

Stravo · Post by **Stravo** » 2004-04-25 05:23pm

CaptainChewbacca wrote:Unless, of course, humans are ancients, in which case we're the first AND fifth race. Those aliens from "Space Race" would be the sixth.

There was that race of ancients that 'disappeared' IIRC. That would be very interesting indeed.

Jeremy · Post by **Jeremy** » 2004-04-25 08:03pm

CaptainChewbaca, those were the Serrakin. The Serrakin found Hebridan and liberated the Humans from their Goa'uld masters. Herbidan appeared to be the capital world of a nation state of consisting of hybrids, Humans, and Serrakin. It makes since to me that the capital world would have been the home of the Serrakin which produced a highly advanced interstellar race capable of defeating Goa'uld in battle.

We also saw an amphibious species early in Season 1 who assisted Human overthrow of the Goa'uld on Earth, who I believe to be the Furlings.

First Race = Ancients, they summarily ascended after being afflicted with an incurrable virus
Second Race = Asgard, live in another galaxy and have some holdings in this one
Third Race = Nox, isolationist-arrogant-hippies
Fourth Race = Furlings, ???
Fifth Race = Americans, because we kick ass

CaptainChewbacca · Post by **CaptainChewbacca** » 2004-04-25 08:04pm

Jeremy wrote:CaptainChewbaca, those were the Serrakin. The Serrakin found Hebridan and liberated the Humans from their Goa'uld masters. Herbidan appeared to be the capital world of a nation state of consisting of hybrids, Humans, and Serrakin. It makes since to me that the capital world would have been the home of the Serrakin which produced a highly advanced interstellar race capable of defeating Goa'uld in battle.

We also saw an amphibious species early in Season 1 who assisted Human overthrow of the Goa'uld on Earth, who I believe to be the Furlings.

That guy was something like the last of his race, I think.

Winston Blake · Post by **Winston Blake** » 2004-04-25 08:33pm

That might explain why we haven't seen any Furlings.

Howedar · Post by **Howedar** » 2004-04-25 08:36pm

Why is everyone assuming that there will be a Sixth Race?

Winston Blake · Post by **Winston Blake** » 2004-04-25 09:09pm

Why is everyone assuming that there will be a Sixth Race?

Let me answer entirely in quotes from this thread:

You mean fifth race, and according to the Asgaard we were on our way to being it

Unless, of course, humans are ancients, in which case we're the first AND fifth race. Those aliens from "Space Race" would be the sixth.

those were the Serrakin. The Serrakin found Hebridan and liberated the Humans from their Goa'uld masters.

Also, doesn't it look like the Hebridians are about 50 years ahead of us technologically? Wouldn't the Asgard say they were on their way to becoming 'the fifth race', instead of us?

Shinova · Post by **Shinova** » 2004-04-25 10:15pm

Winston Blake wrote:Also, doesn't it look like the Hebridians are about 50 years ahead of us technologically? Wouldn't the Asgard say they were on their way to becoming 'the fifth race', instead of us?

I wouldn't say so because if technological development were the criteria, the Goa'uld would be more fifth race than humans.

It's the humans probably cause they're related to the Ancients but more importantly because O'Neill set a great example for the Asgard and showed that the human race had more potential to become a great race in the future.

Winston Blake · Post by **Winston Blake** » 2004-04-25 10:20pm

I wouldn't say so because if technological development were the criteria, the Goa'uld would be more fifth race than humans.

The Goa'uld would never be allowed into the big Alliance thing with the Asgard, they're too evil.

Shinova · Post by **Shinova** » 2004-04-25 10:44pm

Winston Blake wrote:
I wouldn't say so because if technological development were the criteria, the Goa'uld would be more fifth race than humans.
The Goa'uld would never be allowed into the big Alliance thing with the Asgard, they're too evil.

Exactly my point, which is why technological development isn't the criteria for acceptance as fifth race.

Winston Blake · Post by **Winston Blake** » 2004-04-26 12:23am

I was just noticing the trend that the Asgard, Nox and Ancients have/had far superior technology to any other species.

But, yes, i agree that acceptance isn't purely technological.

Howedar · Post by **Howedar** » 2004-04-26 01:55am

Winston Blake wrote:
Why is everyone assuming that there will be a Sixth Race?
Let me answer entirely in quotes from this thread:

Okay, if they address the point then that's fine.

You mean fifth race, and according to the Asgaard we were on our way to being it

Okay, that has nothing to do with a sixth race.

Unless, of course, humans are ancients, in which case we're the first AND fifth race. Those aliens from "Space Race" would be the sixth.

Assumes that there will be a sixth race to the alliance; does not provide any justification for such an assumption.

those were the Serrakin. The Serrakin found Hebridan and liberated the Humans from their Goa'uld masters.

Details about said race, nothing about why there will be a sixth race.

Also, doesn't it look like the Hebridians are about 50 years ahead of us technologically? Wouldn't the Asgard say they were on their way to becoming 'the fifth race', instead of us?

Again, does not address the liklihood of there being a sixth race to the alliance.

Well golly gee, looks like you entirely missed the point.

Jeremy · Post by **Jeremy** » 2004-04-26 02:05am

Yes, that was information on the Serrakin, almost as if I wasn't trying to say they would be the sixth race or even that there would be a sixth race.

The Asgard showed a willingness to allow the Americans to eventually enter in (if the other members would or wouldn't is unknown), so it is likely that they would support the entry of another equally righteous nation to enter. Perosnally, it has sparked off a bit of fan-fiction/speculation.

Winston Blake · Post by **Winston Blake** » 2004-04-26 03:55am

Well golly gee, looks like you entirely missed the point.

Before the thread name was changed, Stravo said "is man the sixth race" when he should have said "fifth" because there is currently no fifth race. I assumed you misread, and i was wrong. I apologise.

Daltonator · Post by **Daltonator** » 2004-04-27 07:29am

Stravo wrote:I watched the first three seasons religiously but lost interest for awhile, occasionally popping in and out and I always wondered if humans were the sixth race that would join the ancients. I always suspected that as the case. I was also interested in the near mythical status humans have as the Tokarai (I think I got that right).

You mean the Tau'ri?

Stravo wrote:If this question has already been answered in the series please forgive me, but I just haven't been keeping up.

Have you ever seen the second season episode The Fifth Race? That's where the Asgard tell O'Neill that humanity has taken its first step towards becoming the fifth race.

Tragic · Post by **Tragic** » 2004-04-27 09:16am

Why does Jeremy keep saying "Americans" will be the fifth race? Isn't it suppose to be the entire earth?

Daltonator · Post by **Daltonator** » 2004-04-27 10:34am

Tragic wrote:Why does Jeremy keep saying "Americans" will be the fifth race? Isn't it suppose to be the entire earth?

Yeah, that's a good question. The Americans might run the Stargate program on Earth, but they have a Russian team and there are also several other colonies of humans who explore through the Stargate, like the Kewlonans.

Jeremy · Post by **Jeremy** » 2004-04-27 09:08pm

Jingoism

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