Well, they could scrap it.
Then they at least could get raw material from it. But otherwise, I think a GCS is totally useless. Nothing more than a ticking time bomb with crew.
How much would a GCS be worth in SW-verse?
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Sales from the production of the unique technology, as well as the licencing rights, would make it worth , if put in terms of relative wealth in today's world, Billions to Tens of Billions of Dollars, at the very least.
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Actually, a war-refit GCS could we worth quite a bit if sold to the proper people.
Consider
Transporter Technology
Almost unknown in the Star Wars universe. Now they suddenly have what could be called a working prototype (bugs to work out yet). Get the bugs worked out, and you've got a rather valuable cargo transportation system.
Hell, given the state of Star Wars civilization and technology, you could probably wipe out Hyperdrive technology.
Envision this: Star Trek transporters without any bugs, and it confirmed it's not a life-death-life process as Star Trek portrays. (During any era, there are enough force users to do this, or even non-Force trained telepaths).
Combine that with the Holonet.
Step into a transporter on Coruscant, ZAP, your on Tattooine.
This would take a small to modest amount of R&D (remember, this is considering the size of the Star Wars civilization, I consider large amount for them the effort needed to create the Death Star), but once it was in place... However owned the royalties to that technology could probably buy and sell Sectors.
Holodech Technology
Debatable if that level of Holography exsists in the Star Wars universe. There's evidence if they don't have it, they are close. (i.e the holographic disguises from the Young Jedi Knights novels)(I'm assuming they are not beyond it, since I haven't seen evidence of that)
I can see it, again, with the bugs worked out, as the perfect military training simulator. Why waste money on live fire exercises, when you can just hook a Holodeck to a hyperdrive reactor and simulate it out the ass end. Why waste a perfectly good Tie Fighter when a holodeck one will do?
Star Trek medical technology
Debatable. There cloning technology would have definate applications. I can see the Emperor jumping on the chance of growing stable clones in 2 - 3 days time for both his own use, and as Stormtroopers.
(The thought off the Emperor with 100,000,000 2 - 3 day no-insanity cloning tanks and flash imprint technology is just scary. Combine that with World Devestator technology, and I'm terriified/joining the Empire)
Star Trek Weaponary.
Now, this is were the debate will get ugly.
It would appear Star Trek style weaponary (note: I did not say power, just style) and functionality are in development in the Star Wars galaxy. Case in point: Tenloss Disruptor rifle from Jedi Outcast and Jedi Academy. It's effects appear similar to a 'Trek Phaser or Disruptor.
Suddenly having a practical shipsized weapon array to play with, abiet and underpowered one, could be have very interesting on Star Wars military technology and tactics.
Consider this:
Replace the Turbolasers on a Imperial Star Destroyer with an equal power Phaser array. Properly designed, you could increase the overlapping fields of fire on a Star Destroyer buy quite the margin. They might even be smaller too.
(Note: I make no hard claims to that, just 'you never know')
Warp Drive
The biggest impediment to Warp Drives appears to be power and structural ingretity. No juice and weak ships = rather slow compared to hyperdrive FTL.
Imagine a Warp Drive mounted onto a Star Destroyer (obviously, it works in this scenario), being feed power by a ISD's main drive reactor.
Other technology:
Maybe they'd find a use for all that lovely 'warp space and cause freaky effects' subspace technology. Combine that with the sensor readings the ship has of the spacial anomoly that brought it there, some time, effort, and those lovely star charts, that's new territory to conquer....
NOw then.
This is all 'possibles'. Those alone, if demonstrated to the right R&D company (Kuat Drive Yards comes to mind, the Imperial government, alot of major corperations), you could probably net enough to buy yourself a planet or two.
Now, weither or not they have any long term use is really up to the R&D company...
Consider
Transporter Technology
Almost unknown in the Star Wars universe. Now they suddenly have what could be called a working prototype (bugs to work out yet). Get the bugs worked out, and you've got a rather valuable cargo transportation system.
Hell, given the state of Star Wars civilization and technology, you could probably wipe out Hyperdrive technology.
Envision this: Star Trek transporters without any bugs, and it confirmed it's not a life-death-life process as Star Trek portrays. (During any era, there are enough force users to do this, or even non-Force trained telepaths).
Combine that with the Holonet.
Step into a transporter on Coruscant, ZAP, your on Tattooine.
This would take a small to modest amount of R&D (remember, this is considering the size of the Star Wars civilization, I consider large amount for them the effort needed to create the Death Star), but once it was in place... However owned the royalties to that technology could probably buy and sell Sectors.
Holodech Technology
Debatable if that level of Holography exsists in the Star Wars universe. There's evidence if they don't have it, they are close. (i.e the holographic disguises from the Young Jedi Knights novels)(I'm assuming they are not beyond it, since I haven't seen evidence of that)
I can see it, again, with the bugs worked out, as the perfect military training simulator. Why waste money on live fire exercises, when you can just hook a Holodeck to a hyperdrive reactor and simulate it out the ass end. Why waste a perfectly good Tie Fighter when a holodeck one will do?
Star Trek medical technology
Debatable. There cloning technology would have definate applications. I can see the Emperor jumping on the chance of growing stable clones in 2 - 3 days time for both his own use, and as Stormtroopers.
(The thought off the Emperor with 100,000,000 2 - 3 day no-insanity cloning tanks and flash imprint technology is just scary. Combine that with World Devestator technology, and I'm terriified/joining the Empire)
Star Trek Weaponary.
Now, this is were the debate will get ugly.
It would appear Star Trek style weaponary (note: I did not say power, just style) and functionality are in development in the Star Wars galaxy. Case in point: Tenloss Disruptor rifle from Jedi Outcast and Jedi Academy. It's effects appear similar to a 'Trek Phaser or Disruptor.
Suddenly having a practical shipsized weapon array to play with, abiet and underpowered one, could be have very interesting on Star Wars military technology and tactics.
Consider this:
Replace the Turbolasers on a Imperial Star Destroyer with an equal power Phaser array. Properly designed, you could increase the overlapping fields of fire on a Star Destroyer buy quite the margin. They might even be smaller too.
(Note: I make no hard claims to that, just 'you never know')
Warp Drive
The biggest impediment to Warp Drives appears to be power and structural ingretity. No juice and weak ships = rather slow compared to hyperdrive FTL.
Imagine a Warp Drive mounted onto a Star Destroyer (obviously, it works in this scenario), being feed power by a ISD's main drive reactor.
Other technology:
Maybe they'd find a use for all that lovely 'warp space and cause freaky effects' subspace technology. Combine that with the sensor readings the ship has of the spacial anomoly that brought it there, some time, effort, and those lovely star charts, that's new territory to conquer....
NOw then.
This is all 'possibles'. Those alone, if demonstrated to the right R&D company (Kuat Drive Yards comes to mind, the Imperial government, alot of major corperations), you could probably net enough to buy yourself a planet or two.
Now, weither or not they have any long term use is really up to the R&D company...
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they have holograms and force fields. all they have to do is combine the technology in a similar fashion.Solauren wrote: Holodech Technology
Debatable if that level of Holography exsists in the Star Wars universe. There's evidence if they don't have it, they are close. (i.e the holographic disguises from the Young Jedi Knights novels)(I'm assuming they are not beyond it, since I haven't seen evidence of that)
when have we ever been shown that starfleet has that sort of technology?Star Trek medical technology
Debatable. There cloning technology would have definate applications. I can see the Emperor jumping on the chance of growing stable clones in 2 - 3 days time for both his own use, and as Stormtroopers.
(The thought off the Emperor with 100,000,000 2 - 3 day no-insanity cloning tanks and flash imprint technology is just scary. Combine that with World Devestator technology, and I'm terriified/joining the Empire)
hyperdrive is already far superior. Warp Drive would be worthless.Warp Drive
The biggest impediment to Warp Drives appears to be power and structural ingretity. No juice and weak ships = rather slow compared to hyperdrive FTL.
Imagine a Warp Drive mounted onto a Star Destroyer (obviously, it works in this scenario), being feed power by a ISD's main drive reactor.
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Holodecks are kind of useless, even as military training sims. They already have realistic simulators for most craft, and we saw in Specter of the Past that live-fire exercises are conducted using the lowest power settings, with all damage being simulated based on normal weapon yields.
Also, Lando Calrissian ran a theme park called Hologram Fun World for a short time. IIRC, force fields were used on some attractions to give the holograms some degree of corporeality, ala the holodeck.
Warp drive isn't all that great a technology compared to hyperdrive. At Warp 9.9, maximum warp for most Starfleet vessels, it's still several orders of magnitude slower than most hyperdrives. Also, assuming that a more powerful reactor, especially one that functions in a completely different manner than a warp core, will make a warp drive go faster is a non sequitur. AFAIK, we have no evidence that a warp drive can even function without a warp core as its power source. (Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong)
Given the Empire's xenophobia, and the fact that Dominion cloning technology (which I assume is what you're referring to) depends on certain aspects of Jem'Hadar DNA to work so quickly, it is highly unlikely that the Empire would want to make use of the technology.
Phasers, compared to a Star Destroyers present weaponry, would be almost useless. They're far less powerful evan at their highest settings, and they depend on an exotic reaction with certain types of matter to work. They're nearly useless against armor and shields IIRC.
The disruptor rifle in JO and JA is not an accurate representation of what the weapon actually is, which is essentially a short-range, extremely powerful blaster. Never use game mechanics to argue a point, as the only part of a game which can even be considered a part of the SW universe it the story. For example, they couldn't even depict the Merr-Sonn PLX-2M or the Golan FC-1 correctly, and for some reason they're obsessed with making bowcaster bolts green in the JK games.
Also, Lando Calrissian ran a theme park called Hologram Fun World for a short time. IIRC, force fields were used on some attractions to give the holograms some degree of corporeality, ala the holodeck.
Warp drive isn't all that great a technology compared to hyperdrive. At Warp 9.9, maximum warp for most Starfleet vessels, it's still several orders of magnitude slower than most hyperdrives. Also, assuming that a more powerful reactor, especially one that functions in a completely different manner than a warp core, will make a warp drive go faster is a non sequitur. AFAIK, we have no evidence that a warp drive can even function without a warp core as its power source. (Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong)
Given the Empire's xenophobia, and the fact that Dominion cloning technology (which I assume is what you're referring to) depends on certain aspects of Jem'Hadar DNA to work so quickly, it is highly unlikely that the Empire would want to make use of the technology.
Phasers, compared to a Star Destroyers present weaponry, would be almost useless. They're far less powerful evan at their highest settings, and they depend on an exotic reaction with certain types of matter to work. They're nearly useless against armor and shields IIRC.
The disruptor rifle in JO and JA is not an accurate representation of what the weapon actually is, which is essentially a short-range, extremely powerful blaster. Never use game mechanics to argue a point, as the only part of a game which can even be considered a part of the SW universe it the story. For example, they couldn't even depict the Merr-Sonn PLX-2M or the Golan FC-1 correctly, and for some reason they're obsessed with making bowcaster bolts green in the JK games.
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What part of
These are possibles. As in, sell the ship to a rich R&D company with a deal for royalties if the technology is feasible, then go into hiding in case it's not and bounty hunters come a calling...
I do notice no one disagreed with my 'if they got the kinks out of transporters and combined with the holonet' idea....
Did you not get?Now then.
This is all 'possibles'. Those alone, if demonstrated to the right R&D company (Kuat Drive Yards comes to mind, the Imperial government, alot of major corperations), you could probably net enough to buy yourself a planet or two.
Now, weither or not they have any long term use is really up to the R&D company...
These are possibles. As in, sell the ship to a rich R&D company with a deal for royalties if the technology is feasible, then go into hiding in case it's not and bounty hunters come a calling...
I do notice no one disagreed with my 'if they got the kinks out of transporters and combined with the holonet' idea....
Darth_Zod wrote:Solauren wrote:when have we ever been shown that starfleet has that sort of technology?Star Trek medical technology
Debatable. There cloning technology would have definate applications. I can see the Emperor jumping on the chance of growing stable clones in 2 - 3 days time for both his own use, and as Stormtroopers.
(The thought off the Emperor with 100,000,000 2 - 3 day no-insanity cloning tanks and flash imprint technology is just scary. Combine that with World Devestator technology, and I'm terriified/joining the Empire)
Depends on how you define 'has it'
We've seen a few instances of it in Star Trek.
for example
TNG Episode; Riker and Pulaski clones grown very fast. It was also the episode with the Irish colonists and the clone-world.
DS9 Episode: The 'tri-phasic' clone. Odo framed for murder.
Bashir appeared familair with it.
I'll admit and agree, we've never seen star fleet employ it, but given there level of stupidity for stuff like that, i'm beating it's all on file somewhere in a Galaxy Class ships computer core
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I'd think a FTL drive that can operate within a gravity well would be useful in escaping/evading interdictors.
Also, a drive that operates between a SW ship's fastest sublight yet and slowest FTL velocity may have an interesting evasion envelope.
And of course you have the wonderful Swiss Army Deflector Dish!
Also, a drive that operates between a SW ship's fastest sublight yet and slowest FTL velocity may have an interesting evasion envelope.
And of course you have the wonderful Swiss Army Deflector Dish!
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Transporter kill the oriiginal copy and replace it with a clone. Due to this reason no one in the SW galaxy would be interested in being transported.Robert Walper wrote:One would think the transporter technology alone would make it extremely valueable, even in the military's eyes.Ghost Rider wrote:Possibly a few tens of million to possibly billions credits to a collector.
It's certainly a one of a kind
However transporter would be good for moving around non living things such as droids and cargo.
I have to tell you something everything I wrote above is a lie.
I saw that idea mentioned in a fic about a war between the species 84... -well, you know who I'm talking about- and the Empire. It doesn't seem too far-fetched. The "no-one will accept it" may be true or may not be. Certainly, cloned stormtroopers won't care a shit for being cloned yet again so the concept would at least have some interest for the military.
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Solauren wrote:
Depends on how you define 'has it'
We've seen a few instances of it in Star Trek.
for example
TNG Episode; Riker and Pulaski clones grown very fast. It was also the episode with the Irish colonists and the clone-world.
not starfleet technology. They also didn't bother getting schematics for the clone chambers.
This doesn't show that they actually know how to implement this technology though. Having the simple blueprints or a rough idea of how a technology works is not sufficient to recreate it in any practical level in and of itself.DS9 Episode: The 'tri-phasic' clone. Odo framed for murder.
Bashir appeared familair with it.
I'll admit and agree, we've never seen star fleet employ it, but given there level of stupidity for stuff like that, i'm beating it's all on file somewhere in a Galaxy Class ships computer core
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Ten thousand, all in advance.The question is how much would the GCS be worth?
Truely, its only worth is as an oddity. Almost every thing on it is duplicated and improved upon is SW technology. Twould be like asking a shit load of cash for a broke down AMC Pacer when you could spend it on a nice Corvette.
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Interdictors probably mess with warp drive too. And you'd grow old getting anywhere; doesn't fit with a jet-set lifestyleEnola Straight wrote:I'd think a FTL drive that can operate within a gravity well would be useful in escaping/evading interdictors.
Also, a drive that operates between a SW ship's fastest sublight yet and slowest FTL velocity may have an interesting evasion envelope.
And of course you have the wonderful Swiss Army Deflector Dish!
LOL Warp drive would actually make SW early warning useful; they're so slow they'd be on the scopes for hours, perhaps days.
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While none of the ship's tech is necessarily that much better, I'm sure there are rich people that would like an copy of the database, if only for entertainment and/or humanistic studies. (art, language, janeway porn, etc) The pure physics might be interested in subspace, as well.
Holodecks might not be unforseeable with SW tech, but there are no known "holodecks" that combines all the functions of an trek holodeck. There might be marginal advances to be made from the trek holodeck, and it should be petty easy to reverse engineer.
As for warp/impulse drives, they can probably serve as an auxiliary drive for interdictors evasion or maybe as star fighter drives since their acceleration seems fairly decent. Mass lighting technology would certainly be welcome on the fighters if it does not interfear with other tech.
Holodecks might not be unforseeable with SW tech, but there are no known "holodecks" that combines all the functions of an trek holodeck. There might be marginal advances to be made from the trek holodeck, and it should be petty easy to reverse engineer.
As for warp/impulse drives, they can probably serve as an auxiliary drive for interdictors evasion or maybe as star fighter drives since their acceleration seems fairly decent. Mass lighting technology would certainly be welcome on the fighters if it does not interfear with other tech.
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As said, the value of a GCS wouldn't be in the ship itself, but the potential to advance and refine the technologies aboard it. (Assuming similar technologies haven't already been invented and abandoned for various reasons.)
A phaser at Federation power levels isn't too impressive (in comparison to SW tech), but with some R&D, a 200 GT phaser would give BDZ capability to much smaller craft. And a 200 GT phaser blast is still going to transfer 200 GT to its target, even if NDF doesn't take over like it does against the UFP's opponents.
Mass lightening can up SW sublight acceleration rates even more. Why am I envisioning a mass-lightened Death Star?
A GCS' warp core has the potential of hopping galaxies (it was either the first Traveler episode or the time Barclay took control of the Enterprise from the holodeck)... The Federation hasn't figured out how to harness it, and it's unknown if the Empire can duplicate feat given a warp drive. But only a fool would refuse researching it given the fact that it has been done at least once before.
The episode with the Enterprise repeatedly blowing up during some kind of time storm (caused by creatures in a Romulan power supply) had neat little devices that put people on different time rates.... or whatever it was called. If records of those devices were found, some R&D on them would have interesting military applications. (Namely, the ability to fight at Culture-level speeds.)
Just because the UFP can't or isn't willing to develop its technology to its full potential doesn't mean the Empire won't give it a try given the chance.
A phaser at Federation power levels isn't too impressive (in comparison to SW tech), but with some R&D, a 200 GT phaser would give BDZ capability to much smaller craft. And a 200 GT phaser blast is still going to transfer 200 GT to its target, even if NDF doesn't take over like it does against the UFP's opponents.
Mass lightening can up SW sublight acceleration rates even more. Why am I envisioning a mass-lightened Death Star?
A GCS' warp core has the potential of hopping galaxies (it was either the first Traveler episode or the time Barclay took control of the Enterprise from the holodeck)... The Federation hasn't figured out how to harness it, and it's unknown if the Empire can duplicate feat given a warp drive. But only a fool would refuse researching it given the fact that it has been done at least once before.
The episode with the Enterprise repeatedly blowing up during some kind of time storm (caused by creatures in a Romulan power supply) had neat little devices that put people on different time rates.... or whatever it was called. If records of those devices were found, some R&D on them would have interesting military applications. (Namely, the ability to fight at Culture-level speeds.)
Just because the UFP can't or isn't willing to develop its technology to its full potential doesn't mean the Empire won't give it a try given the chance.
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Their sensors use subspace already. They have subspace tech; and it's better than ST. Next.SWPIGWANG wrote:While none of the ship's tech is necessarily that much better, I'm sure there are rich people that would like an copy of the database, if only for entertainment and/or humanistic studies. (art, language, janeway porn, etc) The pure physics might be interested in subspace, as well.
I thought Lando's holo tech was functionally identical. Frankly, I'd rather use a real woman.SWPIGWANG wrote:Holodecks might not be unforseeable with SW tech, but there are no known "holodecks" that combines all the functions of an trek holodeck. There might be marginal advances to be made from the trek holodeck, and it should be petty easy to reverse engineer.
Impulse is total rubbish. They need to mass-lighten their ships to get even the meager gs they *can* pull. Compare; ISD = 3000g, GCS = 1500g. Big improvement there :rolls:SWPIGWANG wrote:As for warp/impulse drives, they can probably serve as an auxiliary drive for interdictors evasion or maybe as star fighter drives since their acceleration seems fairly decent. Mass lighting technology would certainly be welcome on the fighters if it does not interfear with other tech.
Mass-lightening would just make subspace jamming even MORE effective, and make ships far easier to detect, which would far outweigh any possible advantages. The TIE has garbage-can sized engines, and it's significantly faster and more agile than anything in ST.
CLONING technology? On a GCS?Solauren wrote: Debatable. There cloning technology would have definate applications. I can see the Emperor jumping on the chance of growing stable clones in 2 - 3 days time for both his own use, and as Stormtroopers.
(The thought off the Emperor with 100,000,000 2 - 3 day no-insanity cloning tanks and flash imprint technology is just scary. Combine that with World Devestator technology, and I'm terriified/joining the Empire)
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It would be far, far cheaper just to build a new ship with SW technology than to upgrade a GCS hull to SW standards. Assuming it's possible at all--we have no idea what kinds of stresses hyperdrive imposes on a spaceframe, and it's highly unlikely a GCS frame could survive the extremely high sublight accelerations SW craft are capable of.
Forget putting in a SW power plant, too. Remember, all that power needs to be transmitted from the reactor to the systems it's powering, and it's extremely unlikely the existing plasma conduits are approppriate for the task. None of the ship's systems will be able to make much use of that extra power anyway--the physical components are designed for certain voltages or power levels or what have you, and running orders of magnitude more energy through them is only going to be good for starting fires.
Basically, in order to refit it, you'd have to strip the thing down to the frame and rebuild it, and even that might not be possible. Imagine trying to refit the U.S.S. Constitution into a modern fighting warship, and then remember the technological gap between the Federation and the SW civilization is much, much wider.
The way I see it, there are only a few interesting technologies on board. The phasers' NDF effect might have some application. Transporters have many potential applications even if their problems with heavy metals and energy fields are insolvable. And the holodecks combine replicators and transporters with forcefields and clever light manipulation--more of an idea than a technology, but it might be interesting to someone.
Other than that, the ship is only valuable as an artifact of an extragalactic civilization. Her value would be as a museum piece, not a functioning starship.
Forget putting in a SW power plant, too. Remember, all that power needs to be transmitted from the reactor to the systems it's powering, and it's extremely unlikely the existing plasma conduits are approppriate for the task. None of the ship's systems will be able to make much use of that extra power anyway--the physical components are designed for certain voltages or power levels or what have you, and running orders of magnitude more energy through them is only going to be good for starting fires.
Basically, in order to refit it, you'd have to strip the thing down to the frame and rebuild it, and even that might not be possible. Imagine trying to refit the U.S.S. Constitution into a modern fighting warship, and then remember the technological gap between the Federation and the SW civilization is much, much wider.
The way I see it, there are only a few interesting technologies on board. The phasers' NDF effect might have some application. Transporters have many potential applications even if their problems with heavy metals and energy fields are insolvable. And the holodecks combine replicators and transporters with forcefields and clever light manipulation--more of an idea than a technology, but it might be interesting to someone.
Other than that, the ship is only valuable as an artifact of an extragalactic civilization. Her value would be as a museum piece, not a functioning starship.
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You should add the liscensing fees for all the literature and media contained in the main computer. You could probably get a pretty penny from the Star Wars Universe's "Hollywood" if you managed to extract it all.
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Yeah because all Starfleet ships fly arround with copies to top secret not to mention illegal schematics loaded in the databank.Enola Straight wrote:If this GCS happens to have an experimental Federation Phasing Cloak plucked out of the USS Pegasus, I suppose colliding with mass shadows at hyperspeed would be a thing of the past.
RIP Yosemite Bear
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Gone, Never Forgotten