Ranma 1/2 vs. DragonBall Z

consequences · Post by **consequences** » 2002-10-22 01:55am

On-topic again, if you take all of the inconsistencies in DBZ, and rationalise them towards the high end figures, they win. If you take DBZ, and give it credit for the lowest energy possible for the effects seen, they will lose under the conditions I have set forth.
And I am still waiting for a rational reason that fighters who could react in picoseconds would have to sit around and wait for the sound of each others speech to reach each other, when that would be the subjective equivant to approximately THIRTY-THREE THOUSAND YEARS to you or me for one character to say anything to another, and the same time for a reply to be intelligible, when they would have to maintain such awareness against a fighter capable of reacting at that speed the entire time. If they communicated to each other in some form of sign language, it would be barely conceivable, oh, wait, no it wouldn't, since the speed of light means it would take them nanoseconds to actually see anything that happened more than a foot in front of them regardless of how fast they reacted.

Yogi · Post by **Yogi** » 2002-10-22 01:56am

This is getting rediculous, time to end it. NOW.

Ranma crew (all) vs. Vegeta.

Time Start:Starting bell rings
Start +0.00000000001 seconds:There is now a five kilometer wide crater where the battlefield used to be.

Somebody close this thread please. I don't think anything useful is going to come out of it.

consequences · Post by **consequences** » 2002-10-22 01:57am

If someone has a bow with antimatter arrows, then yes, they can beat the U.S. army, although it will be more of a draw, since the archer would be dead to. Do be more specific when you are attempting to mock people, please.
My apologies if I misconstrued your statement.

Yogi · Post by **Yogi** » 2002-10-22 02:01am

Re: Precieving at FTL speeds.

Before this point, all refrences to light have been made to Real Life light. However, Dragonball light apparently travels much faster, since they were able to hold real-time conversations between seperate planetary systems. Also why the Taiyouken can hit people.

Re: Talking at FTL speeds.

While the shockwaves from various blows apparently take time to travel, sound apparently isn't affected. The most obvious cause is that one is able to hear the planets explode, despit the fact that there is no air in space. So sound also behaves diffrently in the Dragonball Universe.

Yogi · Post by **Yogi** » 2002-10-22 02:04am

All right, I know what's coming. "There's no sound in the Manga, is there?" Frankly, I haven't read all of it, so I don't know. Therefore, I shall have to provide another reason.

The sound coming out of their mouths are enhanced by their Ki. Since Ki travels at FTP speeds, the vibration of thee air molecules (which is really energy, provided by Ki) also travels at super speed.

lgot · Post by **lgot** » 2002-10-22 02:09am

I was being sarcastic since the BDZ have the power to blew planets and Ranma to blew walls...

But then, You fun...
People talking during the fights are some of the incosistences of BDZ. Why do not take that off ?
Wait, you call incosistences the fact they can blew planets and stuff ? And not that Ranma can turn in a woman and there is a drowned squid fountain, that Shampoo can erase memories with lotions or that the best fighters of the whole series are two old dwarves (Happo and Cologne ) ?
Wait, Ranma special techiniques are ok and DBZ - which is btw, all the series is about. Go to Mike Wong site and read about suspension of disbilief. So, Ranma will won DBZ if they are not unable to work under the superhumans levels there able to ? Oh, ok. But then, they are not DBZ.
Why do not you face Ranma with Kenshin then ? They produce vacumm with attacks, super speed, but they are no in the super level of DBZ, so you fill in your "powerlevel"

Yogi · Post by **Yogi** » 2002-10-22 02:10am

Final post before bed.

1: If you were reffering to my post, I would like to clarify that Vegeta is standing above the wreckage smiling to himself.

Did I say Vegeta? No, I meant Nappa. Yes freaking Nappa was able to casually tac-nuke a city with no damage to himself. Think about what Vegeta could do.

2: I don't think taking the strongest incarnation of Ranma vs. the weakest version of DBZ is very "professional" At the very lest, it reveals your fanboyism. There's a term used for these types of fights in one of the forums I visit. It's "Captain America (with the Hammer of Thor) vs. Batman (nacked and tied to a tree)"

SylasGaunt · Post by **SylasGaunt** » 2002-10-22 02:23am

The general idea seems to be-

"If we take the strongest ranma, give him a buttload of enhancements and ignore most of the feats in DBZ he can win!"

The fact of the matter is that Ranma and co. can't stand up to someone who can flatten a city with a gesture.

Post by **Mr Bean** » 2002-10-22 09:30am

Indeed this is gone on to long, Consequences is reverting to Darkstar esk tatics that can be summed up thusly

Ramna will win becuase the DBZ Fighters will stand there and talk and talk and Ramna will kick thier ass

Its called ignoring Evidance Fokes, Its pretty damn obvious when one ignores every single pieace of evidance in front of them and invents abitiles and situations where a Bloody Frenchman with a stick could win! I can recall a few fights where Ranma talks but you know what? I don't bring them up because frankly its a non-factor, its the same as saying that any fight is winable as long as the other guy does nothing

Consequences I rarely do this but you HAVE to get it through your head that even lowly Nappa could kick the ass of every single Ramna charater with one hand tied behind is back, Hell the only fair fight I can think of for DBZ would be Goku during the very FIRST Epsode, And even then the Ramna crew would be hard pressed to stop him

Anyway this topic is dead for all intents and purposes, Its near Treky Fanboyism, Nay its worse than that, Its apporching the Cult of Connie level of ignorance and I can not sit by and see the oxygen being wasted

Thread Closed
(And of course as always you free to PM you comments/insults/death-threats if you disagree)