STGOD 4 OOC Thread

Straha · Post by **Straha** » 2004-04-28 11:47pm

Bugsby wrote:seriously, cut Laz some slack. He made some mistakes. He fixed them. He apologized. And the only thing you guys can do (glares at Rogue, magi, and Aly) is rub his face in it. Let's focus on what's happening now. Any godmoding? *looks around* Nope, dont see any. Now please, PLEASE, just play the game.

For once, I agree. Stop hopping on Laz. He made a couple really big blunders, and deserved what he got (NOTE: PAST TENSE.) But he's learning, and if he isn't power-gaming then he doesn't deserve any shit. This is begining to detract from the game...

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2004-04-29 12:01am

lazerus wrote:With High-Explosives sure, but that's because they leave a chemical trace afterwards.

Naquida is a NUCLEAR explosion, abit a small one (very little naquida in each gun). So any naquida remaining would be measured in indiviual molecules, not enough to detect.

Nuclear explosions leave plenty of shit behind; and locating such material and collecting it is easy. All you need to do is localize a peice to the size of a shovel, then scope up the area and throw it in a lead bucket.

InnocentBystander · Post by **InnocentBystander** » 2004-04-29 12:38am

The only explosions that don't leave anything behind are anti-matter explosions. Of course, there are "other" ways of telling what sort of explosive was used.

Bugsby · Post by **Bugsby** » 2004-04-29 12:59am

InnocentBystander wrote:The only explosions that don't leave anything behind are anti-matter explosions. Of course, there are "other" ways of telling what sort of explosive was used.

And even antimatter makes radiation.

InnocentBystander · Post by **InnocentBystander** » 2004-04-29 01:15am

Well anti-matter anhiliations create either a gluon, a photon or a Z particle, the Z particle decays too fast to detect and the photon isn't anything special; but the release of gluons are a dead giveaway.

Bugsby · Post by **Bugsby** » 2004-04-29 01:17am

InnocentBystander wrote:Well anti-matter anhiliations create either a gluon, a photon or a Z particle, the Z particle decays too fast to detect and the photon isn't anything special; but the release of gluons are a dead giveaway.

Oh, right.... gluons....

InnocentBystander · Post by **InnocentBystander** » 2004-04-29 01:32am

Just think of them as the glue that holds the universe togather.

frigidmagi · Post by **frigidmagi** » 2004-04-29 02:03am

That's a good one.

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2004-04-29 02:24am

Laz, we dont place 2nd level mages in the military. They are not on world. I suggest you edit your post.

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2004-04-29 02:31am

Laz, a ship would have an excellent chance of destroying most of the valuable tech before you'd have time to board it.

InnocentBystander · Post by **InnocentBystander** » 2004-04-29 02:31am

Perhaps you'd care to tell what sort of mages would be found on regular patrol? They can't all be level 10 mages.

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2004-04-29 02:31am

LAZ!

This is the last straw. You will NOT Auto my military, or capture my cargo ships without giving me a chance to respond, when you knew FUL well I was at work and couldnt respond. Seeing as I told you I was leaving for work right before you posted those abominations to my military structure.

InnocentBystander · Post by **InnocentBystander** » 2004-04-29 02:33am

Laz, thirdfain is right. Though to be fair, if you were persistant, you might eventually find what you need through a long drawn out pirating campaign. However, that is likely to draw a lot of attention from Alyrium, who I think likes to go a little overboard at times (see the actions in Sol).

Bugsby · Post by **Bugsby** » 2004-04-29 02:34am

Alyrium Denryle wrote:Laz, we dont place 2nd level mages in the military. They are not on world. I suggest you edit your post.

Really? Not one? You need to have a very large army, are all of them high-level? Even the front line-grunts, fresh outta boot camp? How do you manage? What is the lowest level mage you have? Cuz Laz will just steal from that guy.

And remember, we are keeping your magic consistant to the tech level. Your ship was ambushed in deep space. Teleporters dont have the kind of range that you are bosting for the plane shift. The only place you could go to is onto Laz's ship, and that wouldnt turn out well for you. Please edit your post accordingly.

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2004-04-29 02:37am

Well, plane shift would take him to the Shadow Plane, but he'd have a long ass walk ahead of him.

Bugsby · Post by **Bugsby** » 2004-04-29 02:40am

Rogue 9 wrote:Well, plane shift would take him to the Shadow Plane, but he'd have a long ass walk ahead of him.

And hardly a safe one, too. A lot a nasty critters there, neh?

InnocentBystander · Post by **InnocentBystander** » 2004-04-29 02:41am

Alyrium Denryle wrote:LAZ!
This is the last straw. You will NOT Auto my military, or capture my cargo ships without giving me a chance to respond, when you knew FUL well I was at work and couldnt respond. Seeing as I told you I was leaving for work right before you posted those abominations to my military structure.

What sort of responce is there? Its a cargo ship, non-military, the crew wouldn't even be able to scuttle the ship considering their training level and the time given. Your cargo ships are just as vulnerable to pirate attacks as the rest of us.
And I find it very hard to believe that you have a mage on every civilian ship who can teleport over vast distances, an ability well beyond the DS9 tech level I might add.
Also, how does the ship self-destruct? It doesn't have any reactors to overload or computers to engage the said system. Is every ship you make hardwired to explode at the slightest threat to prevent piracy?

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2004-04-29 02:44am

Bystander, I think it's fair to say tha the crew could wreck the ship's magical reactors and so forth. If someone nabbed an Ouster merchant vessel, they'd almost certainly find the ship' s freecasters and Kincaid drive busted.

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2004-04-29 02:45am

InnocentBystander wrote:
Alyrium Denryle wrote:LAZ!
This is the last straw. You will NOT Auto my military, or capture my cargo ships without giving me a chance to respond, when you knew FUL well I was at work and couldnt respond. Seeing as I told you I was leaving for work right before you posted those abominations to my military structure.
What sort of responce is there? Its a cargo ship, non-military, the crew wouldn't even be able to scuttle the ship considering their training level and the time given. Your cargo ships are just as vulnerable to pirate attacks as the rest of us.
And I find it very hard to believe that you have a mage on every civilian ship who can teleport over vast distances, an ability well beyond the DS9 tech level I might add.
Also, how does the ship self-destruct? It doesn't have any reactors to overload or computers to engage the said system. Is every ship you make hardwired to explode at the slightest threat to prevent piracy?

What sort of response? I'd be inclined to respond with an escort force, given that he's kind of in a state of war. Would you send random cargo ships with important shit around unescorted with things as turbulent as they've been?

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2004-04-29 02:48am

Jesus, Rogue, unless he's working his ships in convoys (something he'd have to post,) every one of his merchant vessels wouldn't be escorted.

There are TONS of Ouster military transports moving about the Occupation Zone without escorts, and you might even succeed in nailing a few of them- but remember, this is one transport vessel out of a fleet of hundreds. It's hardly important.

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2004-04-29 02:50am

InnocentBystander wrote:
Alyrium Denryle wrote:LAZ!
This is the last straw. You will NOT Auto my military, or capture my cargo ships without giving me a chance to respond, when you knew FUL well I was at work and couldnt respond. Seeing as I told you I was leaving for work right before you posted those abominations to my military structure.
What sort of responce is there? Its a cargo ship, non-military, the crew wouldn't even be able to scuttle the ship considering their training level and the time given. Your cargo ships are just as vulnerable to pirate attacks as the rest of us.
And I find it very hard to believe that you have a mage on every civilian ship who can teleport over vast distances, an ability well beyond the DS9 tech level I might add.
Also, how does the ship self-destruct? It doesn't have any reactors to overload or computers to engage the said system. Is every ship you make hardwired to explode at the slightest threat to prevent piracy?

I edited the post so that they dont ruin the ships.. But um.. Every ship has a convenient and obvious self destructe device in the form of a glowing mythallar of a reactor. They simply destroyed that, cast Mords Disjunction on all the magic items, shreded the scrolls, and basically cast a spell that wiped all their spells out of their mind so they cant be forced to give the info on casting.

and frankly ANY SHIP CAN SELF DESTRUCT.

The secondmate shifted into the Plane of Shadow it isnt instantaneous, it is like moving in a world of darkness. We have bases there as well. Consider it like an escape pod.

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2004-04-29 02:51am

Yeah, well that's a side issue, even. My main beef is that Laz somehow managed to magically seize the ship with no resistance at all, and provided no reason for why this was the case. I seized the smuggler ship without having my Marines shot at, but I gave a damn good and reasonable explanation for that. This thing with "I win because I'm awesome and can't lose" has got to stop.

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2004-04-29 02:52am

Attacking a merchantman with overwhelming force doesn't really require much reason. I have nothing wrong with that.

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2004-04-29 02:53am

Yes, they can easily overpower the ship. Its the boarding operation that's the problem; specifically the lack of one.

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2004-04-29 02:54am

He teleported the crew out one by one, of course, as Alyrium pointed out, in the time they spent battering down the shields and tugging the vessel into hyperspace, the crew was able to destroy the ship's valuabl stuff.

OF course, if he tries that against a military craft, or a prepared civilian craft, they would be able to use jammers to render the teleporters useless. I think it's OK to not write a lengthy boarding post for a simple, unimportant raid like this one.