10.5 TV Movie

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2004-05-03 11:32pm

CaptainChewbacca wrote:
4. Earthquakes aren't mean. They don't chase trains for 45 seconds FOLLOWING TRACK CURVES until they swallow the train and then stop.

But perhaps the railway's engineers took advantage of some minor rise or depression caused by the fault line to lay down their track bed resulting in a merely preposterous coincidence rather then a massive technical error.

Chardok · Post by **Chardok** » 2004-05-03 11:34pm

would a fissure like that opening up be possible? Also, the dynamic of the water seemed wrong, it should have, by my estimation, fallen into the fissure then violently erupted upward, not followed the fissure neatly along its course like a new river....

18-Till-I-Die · Post by **18-Till-I-Die** » 2004-05-03 11:47pm

To hell with that!

10.5 was exciting and very entertaining, and i enjoyed it very much. I taped both episods, and i think it was prety well written too. It's pure escaism, and 'real science' be damned, it was fun. The ending was especially kickass, when the crack came to just that last point and stopped, i was on teh edge of my seat.

Also, the president in the movie was about ten times more articulate and more capable than Shrub. True, 10.5 wasnt Empire Strikes Back, but it was at least a three star movie (out of five), higher than i put some of the resent sucky movies i've seen.

CaptainChewbacca · Post by **CaptainChewbacca** » 2004-05-03 11:57pm

Jetfire wrote:
CaptainChewbacca wrote: Anyone have questions?
Yeah, how hammered would you get if you took a shot for every scene with a piece of bad geology/bad science in it?

You wouldn't be able to stop drinking, so it depends on what's in the bottle.

But perhaps the railway's engineers took advantage of some minor rise or depression caused by the fault line to lay down their track bed resulting in a merely preposterous coincidence rather then a massive technical error.

Could be, but faults don't turn at right angles, they're usually aproximately 120 degrees. I didn't see any water, but a fissure opening in an earthquake is a remarkably unlikely thing. There's anecdotal evidence that fissures swallowed people during the New Madrid quake, but nothing has ever opened that could drop a commuter train down tens of meters.

Oh, note to self: Kill 18-till-I-die. That guy was articulate because he's an actor and had the lines written. Actually, they were overwritten

18-Till-I-Die · Post by **18-Till-I-Die** » 2004-05-03 11:58pm

Oh c'mon, i was just joking. No need to get bent out of shape.

P.S: Actaully, i could counter by pointing out...eh-hem...that someone else's lines are also prewritten. But i wont

CaptainChewbacca · Post by **CaptainChewbacca** » 2004-05-04 12:16am

18-Till-I-Die wrote:Oh c'mon, i was just joking. No need to get bent out of shape.

P.S: Actaully, i could counter by pointing out...eh-hem...that someone else's lines are also prewritten. But i wont

Bush actually does a lot better off the cuff than when he's scripted. He's just one of those guys.

Shhh! Fake president is on TV!

Mayabird · Post by **Mayabird** » 2004-05-04 01:06am

I must again invoke Rinkwork's Filmmaker's Exam, question #40:

Have you hired science consultants for your science fiction movie and blissfully ignored their suggestions?

TrailerParkJawa · Post by **TrailerParkJawa** » 2004-05-04 01:21am

Col. Crackpot wrote:ohmyfuckinggod, was it me, or was that the most asinine piece of shit to hit the airwaves since the heyday of Sid and Marty Croft?

Hey man, are you talking shit about Saschwatch and Wild Boy or Doctor Shrinker?

Frank Hipper · Post by **Frank Hipper** » 2004-05-04 02:02am

CaptainChewbacca wrote:4. Earthquakes aren't mean. They don't chase trains for 45 seconds FOLLOWING TRACK CURVES until they swallow the train and then stop.

I thought shock waves from an earthquake moved at supersonic speeds.

CaptainChewbacca · Post by **CaptainChewbacca** » 2004-05-04 02:10am

Frank Hipper wrote:
CaptainChewbacca wrote:4. Earthquakes aren't mean. They don't chase trains for 45 seconds FOLLOWING TRACK CURVES until they swallow the train and then stop.
I thought shock waves from an earthquake moved at supersonic speeds.

Exactly. This quake barely caught up to a train, and made directed turns.

I just saw the end, a new island. And the ground inside the valley where that new ocean is will be wiped out next time there's any sort of storm.

Crayz9000 · Post by **Crayz9000** » 2004-05-04 02:24am

Chardok wrote:would a fissure like that opening up be possible? Also, the dynamic of the water seemed wrong, it should have, by my estimation, fallen into the fissure then violently erupted upward, not followed the fissure neatly along its course like a new river....

If a fissure opened and then closed (of which there's... oh, about a snowball's chance in hell) the water could flood into the fissure and then get squeezed out when it closes, causing it to violently erupt upwards.

As if that's ever going to happen, of course. A more probable cause of water shooting upwards would be a broken water main.

Metrion Cascade · Post by **Metrion Cascade** » 2004-05-04 04:50am

Another question. The pseudo-seismologist said this uber-faultline was 700 kilometers down. Is the crust anywhere near that thick?

BoredShirtless · Post by **BoredShirtless** » 2004-05-04 04:56am

Metrion Cascade wrote:Another question. The pseudo-seismologist said this uber-faultline was 700 kilometers down. Is the crust anywhere near that thick?

No, but why can't a fault line run deeper than the crust?

Metrion Cascade · Post by **Metrion Cascade** » 2004-05-04 04:59am

BoredShirtless wrote:
Metrion Cascade wrote:Another question. The pseudo-seismologist said this uber-faultline was 700 kilometers down. Is the crust anywhere near that thick?
No, but why can't a fault line run deeper than the crust?

Because deeper than the crust is the mantle. You can't have cracks in liquid.

BoredShirtless · Post by **BoredShirtless** » 2004-05-04 05:17am

Metrion Cascade wrote:
BoredShirtless wrote:
Metrion Cascade wrote:Another question. The pseudo-seismologist said this uber-faultline was 700 kilometers down. Is the crust anywhere near that thick?
No, but why can't a fault line run deeper than the crust?
Because deeper than the crust is the mantle. You can't have cracks in liquid.

The mantle is actually solid.

Metrion Cascade · Post by **Metrion Cascade** » 2004-05-04 05:36am

BoredShirtless wrote:
Metrion Cascade wrote:
BoredShirtless wrote: No, but why can't a fault line run deeper than the crust?
Because deeper than the crust is the mantle. You can't have cracks in liquid.
The mantle is actually solid.

It seems you're right about it being solid but I'm still right about the faults. It's plastic. Solid, but deforming and flowing somewhat. Which to me says no cracks or faults.

BoredShirtless · Post by **BoredShirtless** » 2004-05-04 05:46am

Metrion Cascade wrote:It seems you're right about it being solid but I'm still right about the faults. It's plastic. Solid, but deforming and flowing somewhat. Which to me says no cracks or faults.

I'm getting my info from: http://www.moorlandschool.co.uk/earth/what.htm

Yeah so it says the mantel is effectively solid when you measure time in decades. But when you get into the thousands of years, it's flowing. Yeah who really knows but, we've never drilled that deep before.

Oni Koneko Damien · Post by **Oni Koneko Damien** » 2004-05-04 11:50am

*sighs* Okay, if the movie had horrid science, but what entertaining, I could have tolerated it, I watch movies like that all the time...but this movie couldn't even manage that. Bad science, bad acting, horrible special effects, even worse music, and a camera man who looked like he was having an epileptic seizure every shoot, and a fetish for the insta-zoom button combined to make this piece of schlock an entry on my 'must mst3k' list.

-Damien

Col. Crackpot · Post by **Col. Crackpot** » 2004-05-04 11:58am

Oni Koneko Damien wrote:*sighs* Okay, if the movie had horrid science, but what entertaining, I could have tolerated it, I watch movies like that all the time...but this movie couldn't even manage that. Bad science, bad acting, horrible special effects, even worse music, and a camera man who looked like he was having an epileptic seizure every shoot, and a fetish for the insta-zoom button combined to make this piece of schlock an entry on my 'must mst3k' list.

-Damien

they ripped off the cinematography of 24..... and it was a piss poor ripoff at that!

Vertigo1 · Post by **Vertigo1** » 2004-05-04 04:05pm

Ok, was it me, or did the CGI shot at the very end make it look like California was about to give someone a blowjob?

Post by **Gandalf** » 2004-05-04 08:33pm

Jeepers, I'll probably get this in Australia in a few months.

Montcalm · Post by **Montcalm** » 2004-05-04 08:40pm

Gandalf wrote:Jeepers, I'll probably get this in Australia in a few months.

And i give it six month to a year before i see the french translation here.

CaptainChewbacca · Post by **CaptainChewbacca** » 2004-05-05 12:26am

BoredShirtless wrote:
Metrion Cascade wrote:It seems you're right about it being solid but I'm still right about the faults. It's plastic. Solid, but deforming and flowing somewhat. Which to me says no cracks or faults.
I'm getting my info from: http://www.moorlandschool.co.uk/earth/what.htm

Yeah so it says the mantel is effectively solid when you measure time in decades. But when you get into the thousands of years, it's flowing. Yeah who really knows but, we've never drilled that deep before.

Its a viscous fluid, not a liquid, you're right about that. There's no chance of earthquakes coming from that deep, because the ground moves too readily.

GrandMasterTerwynn · Post by **GrandMasterTerwynn** » 2004-05-05 11:01pm

Montcalm wrote:I'm watching this tv movie cause i like these huge catastrophic stories,and it begins with an earthquake hitting Seattle most building is getting heavy damage while this guy is avoiding everything thats falling around him until (i'm not sure if he escaped the last thing that fell) the Seattle Space Needle fell down,and now there was another quake which the ground was opening up behind a speeding train and "POOF" train fell the the crack.

My opinion before this movie end is i think its another Hollywood Wankfest :P

It was the suckiest TV movie that ever crawled out of the suckiest hole on this sucky planet. The acting was bad, the plot points and "Man sucks!" message were telegraphed like wrestling moves, and the science was laughable. I can't believe I wasted ten minutes watching it.

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