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Large Breasts + Narrow Waist = Baby

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The classic hour glass shape of physically fit women in the West seems to be the most able to reproduce successfully according to a new study.
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I think i've heard of this stat before
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Not sure, but the hourglass figure has to be the most attractive female form for a reason, from an evolution standpoint
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The study used only Polish women for some reason. I wonder how this correlation would work across a larger statistical sample, crossing racial lines.
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Darth Wong wrote:The study used only Polish women for some reason. I wonder how this correlation would work across a larger statistical sample, crossing racial lines.
My first thought is that different cultures will have different values on what a woman should look like. In some places, a very round woman is a very attractive one because it denotes wealth due to being able to eat well. Or skinny women are seen as poor and sick.
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Admiral Valdemar wrote:My first thought is that different cultures will have different values on what a woman should look like. In some places, a very round woman is a very attractive one because it denotes wealth due to being able to eat well. Or skinny women are seen as poor and sick.
While culture clearly influences standards of beauty, there ARE universal standards of beauty that cross racial and cultural lines, as well.
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Think it was Desmond Morris, has a series called The Human Animal, where they do a worldwide test showing silhouttes of different figures. Basically the 66%-70% waist to hip ratio is considered desirable and the best for reproducing throughout the world.
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Admiral Valdemar wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:The study used only Polish women for some reason. I wonder how this correlation would work across a larger statistical sample, crossing racial lines.
My first thought is that different cultures will have different values on what a woman should look like. In some places, a very round woman is a very attractive one because it denotes wealth due to being able to eat well. Or skinny women are seen as poor and sick.
I read that no matter skinny or fat, attractive women usually have a narrower waist relative to their behind. It was in a Readers Digest article from 1997, I recall it instantly because it's got a picture of Amber Valetta. Hahahah.
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They also mention waist-hip ratio affects other hormones that has noting to do with breasts, so not sure what they mean by Barbie looks, unless they let didn't consider implants vs natural breasts.
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They also mention waist-hip ratio affects other hormones that has noting to do with breasts, so not sure what they mean by Barbie looks, unless they didn't consider implants vs natural breasts.

Sorry quick edit, not sure if you can edit in SLM.
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What can i say, except WELL, DUH!!

Zac got it right: evolutionary biologists have known this for years. It was the first example of sexual selection in humans I learned.

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Zac Naloen wrote:Not sure, but the hourglass figure has to be the most attractive female form for a reason, from an evolution standpoint
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It's lean, its fit, big breasts are good for rearing children, wide hips are good for giving birth. I'm sure women have some standard for sexy men as well. They prefer lean/muscular men who would defend them from mammoths and giant land sloths while we want women who can raise children who can also defend us from mammoths and giant land sloths when we become old, or children who when grown up can raise children who can also defend us from mammoths and giant land sloths.
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InnerBrat wrote:What can i say, except WELL, DUH!!

Zac got it right: evolutionary biologists have known this for years. It was the first example of sexual selection in humans I learned.

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InnerBrat wrote:What can i say, except WELL, DUH!!

Zac got it right: evolutionary biologists have known this for years. It was the first example of sexual selection in humans I learned.

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Illuminatus Primus wrote:
InnerBrat wrote:What can i say, except WELL, DUH!!

Zac got it right: evolutionary biologists have known this for years. It was the first example of sexual selection in humans I learned.

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Well, there is that whole "experiment" part of science.
Suppose. But it's really not a new idea.
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I propose and experiment to find out

I need 200 woman that fit the high fertilizy profile
I need 200 woman that are between slim and this 'high profile shape'
I need 200 woman that are below the ratio, ie what we would consider slendor

I propose I sleep with them all 5 times during there highest fertility period to see how many of a given category concieve
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Solauren wrote:
InnerBrat wrote:What can i say, except WELL, DUH!!

Zac got it right: evolutionary biologists have known this for years. It was the first example of sexual selection in humans I learned.

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Shroom Man 777 wrote:It's lean, its fit, big breasts are good for rearing children, wide hips are good for giving birth. I'm sure women have some standard for sexy men as well. They prefer lean/muscular men who would defend them from mammoths and giant land sloths while we want women who can raise children who can also defend us from mammoths and giant land sloths when we become old, or children who when grown up can raise children who can also defend us from mammoths and giant land sloths.
IIRC correctly some studies have said that there are actually two archetypes for female perferences in men. The first is the "big muscular macho mammoth killer" and the other is the "sensative family man." It seems, according to these studies women actually DO want those sweet sensative guys (to help take care of the kids and such), but they also want to sleep and reproduce with those big dumb muscleheads so their kids get those big attractive musclehead genes.

But that's in general. Me? I fall for sweet nerdy guys. (Not to say there aren't any hot muscular sweet nerdy guys. :wink: )
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Mayabird wrote:IIRC correctly some studies have said that there are actually two archetypes for female perferences in men. The first is the "big muscular macho mammoth killer" and the other is the "sensative family man." It seems, according to these studies women actually DO want those sweet sensative guys (to help take care of the kids and such), but they also want to sleep and reproduce with those big dumb muscleheads so their kids get those big attractive musclehead genes.
Incidentally, just to clarify, these two archetypes are both wanted by every (ish) women, depending on the time of the month.
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