Australian Food Question

Stofsk · Post by **Stofsk** » 2004-05-06 11:08pm

Why do you guys call it ketchup, anyway?

Post by **Zaia** » 2004-05-06 11:10pm

'k, just didn't want you slopping stewed tomatoes on there or anything. Ick!

Stuart Mackey · Post by **Stuart Mackey** » 2004-05-06 11:13pm

Gandalf wrote:
Close enough.

"..man from Brussels, 6 foot tall and full of muscles
I said do you speaka my language?
He just smiled and gave me a vegemite sandwich.
I come from the land down under..."

Gleh, yeah thats it..

Post by **Zaia** » 2004-05-06 11:15pm

Stofsk wrote:Why do you guys call it ketchup, anyway?

No idea.

And here is a place to buy pre-made meat pies. I'll look around a bit more and see if I find a decent recipe to post (my friend Bryan and I made them a while back, so I'll see if I can find that one).

There's this recipe that you could possibly try, or there's also the Food Network recipe, or this one too. They're all basically the same, though.

You can get the mini pastry shells pre-made, so you wouldn't have to buy those... And the mushroom pies are SOOOOO GOOOOOD!! Regular are good too, but mushroom...mmmmmm....*misses Oz*

Xon · Post by **Xon** » 2004-05-06 11:58pm

Thirdfain wrote:... I'll pass on the vegemite, thanks a lot! It probably has vitamins in it or something....

Its one of the world's most concentrated source of vitamin B.

However be warned; it is largely an aquired taste.

Vegemite is made from yeast extract leftover from making beer, and tastes horrible

Post by **Zaia** » 2004-05-06 11:59pm

I have some Vegemite sitting next to me and only for a large amount of money would I eat it. Blech.

Stuart Mackey · Post by **Stuart Mackey** » 2004-05-07 12:03am

ggs wrote:
Thirdfain wrote:... I'll pass on the vegemite, thanks a lot! It probably has vitamins in it or something....
Its one of the world's most concentrated source of vitamin B.

However be warned; it is largely an aquired taste.

Vegemite is made from yeast extract leftover from making beer, and tastes horrible

All comes down to taste..and given said tast I am not surpised that Aussie and NZ consume the stuff..

Stofsk · Post by **Stofsk** » 2004-05-07 12:27am

Indeed. One of my favourite snacks is a toasted cheese sandwich with vegemite spread. It doesn't taste so bad then. But the nutritional benefits make up for it. Besides, it is an acquired taste. So get busy acquiring it!

Post by **Gandalf** » 2004-05-07 12:32am

As an Australian, I strongly dislike vegemite, it tastes and looks horrid.

Stofsk · Post by **Stofsk** » 2004-05-07 12:35am

Gandalf wrote:As an Australian, I strongly dislike vegemite, it tastes and looks horrid.

Bah! No true Australian dislikes vegemite.

(yes I know it's a fallacy, I'm just playing)

Xon · Post by **Xon** » 2004-05-07 06:48am

Gandalf wrote:As an Australian, I strongly dislike vegemite, it tastes and looks horrid.

The secret is the know a very small amount of vegemite goes a long way.

The stuff isnt too bad, if you dont put too much on. This isnt like penutbutter which you can plaster the bread with.

Crown · Post by **Crown** » 2004-05-07 07:22am

Gandalf wrote:As an Australian, I strongly dislike vegemite, it tastes and looks horrid.

Are you kidding me? That and Berroca are the best cures for a hangover. Ever!

Spyder · Post by **Spyder** » 2004-05-07 09:12am

Vegemite on buttered toast, had some this morning, it's great!

Frank Hipper · Post by **Frank Hipper** » 2004-05-07 11:46am

Zaia wrote:And remember, their tomato sauce = our ketchup.

Ok...

So a Pie Floater is a Pot Pie in a bowl of Split Pea Soup, slathered in ketchup?

Was this invented by a pregnant lady having one of those bizarre pregnancy cravings? Yee-uck!

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2004-05-07 12:37pm

Stofsk wrote:Why do you guys call it ketchup, anyway?

Because I'm a respoitory of really dumb things, here's something from my archives of stuff

Ketchup is a Chinese word in origin. In the Amoy dialect of southeastern China, koechiap means 'brine of fish.' It was acquired by English, probably via Malay kichap, toward the end of the 17th century, when it was usually spelled catchup (the New Dictionary of the Canting Crew 1690 defines it as 'a high East-India Sauce'). Shortly afterward the spelling catsup came into vogue (Jonathan Swift is the first on record as using it, in 1730), and it remains the main form in American English. But in Britain ketchup has gradually established itself since the early 18th century.

Post by **Zaia** » 2004-05-07 12:39pm

I KNEW someone would step up to the plate and answer that! Bravo, GR.

Frank Hipper · Post by **Frank Hipper** » 2004-05-07 01:08pm

Ghost Rider wrote:
Stofsk wrote:Why do you guys call it ketchup, anyway?
Because I'm a respoitory of really dumb things, here's something from my archives of stuff

Ketchup is a Chinese word in origin. In the Amoy dialect of southeastern China, koechiap means 'brine of fish.' It was acquired by English, probably via Malay kichap, toward the end of the 17th century, when it was usually spelled catchup (the New Dictionary of the Canting Crew 1690 defines it as 'a high East-India Sauce'). Shortly afterward the spelling catsup came into vogue (Jonathan Swift is the first on record as using it, in 1730), and it remains the main form in American English. But in Britain ketchup has gradually established itself since the early 18th century.

It should also be noted that there are more varieties of ketchup/catsup than tomato.
Walnut ketchup comes to mind, but other than knowing that such a condiment exists, I have no idea what it's like.

Post by **Zaia** » 2004-05-07 09:36pm

So, Thirdfain, are you going to order some meat pies, or try to make some from scratch, because I know I didn't do all that research for you fer nuthin'.

Mr Flibble · Post by **Mr Flibble** » 2004-05-07 10:15pm

Pie floaters blech. To think they are my home state's contribution to world cuisine. They sell them from pie carst around the city (There is one permanentally outside the casino). As far as I know the only people who actually eat them are tourists, and people out for a night drinking, since they tend to be open all night. I wouldn't eat one if you paid me.

Stark · Post by **Stark** » 2004-05-07 10:57pm

Okay, too many revealations in one thread...

You *really* can't buy meat pies in the US? Huh?? Do students exist solely on pot noodles? Tell me you have pot noodles!! It boggles the MIND! What do they sell at crappy corner stores?? Like, just sausage rolls and shit? America is one WIERD place

And the ketchup thing shits me. Its a fucking sauce. Made out of tomato. Hmmmm. 'Mint Ketchup' indeed. You've had your revolution, but there's no reason to go raping the Queens English!

And I'm pretty sure I'd be dead without Vegemite; but then I've seen how they made it, so maybe I'm lucky I'm *NOT* dead.

Post by **Zaia** » 2004-05-07 11:04pm

You weren't paying attention; I gave a link to a place where anyone in the States could buy meat pies.

And no one suggested looking in the international section of the grocery store or any international/specialty grocery store. Both places would most likely have them too.

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2004-05-07 11:05pm

Frank Hipper wrote:
Ghost Rider wrote:
Stofsk wrote:Why do you guys call it ketchup, anyway?
Because I'm a respoitory of really dumb things, here's something from my archives of stuff

Ketchup is a Chinese word in origin. In the Amoy dialect of southeastern China, koechiap means 'brine of fish.' It was acquired by English, probably via Malay kichap, toward the end of the 17th century, when it was usually spelled catchup (the New Dictionary of the Canting Crew 1690 defines it as 'a high East-India Sauce'). Shortly afterward the spelling catsup came into vogue (Jonathan Swift is the first on record as using it, in 1730), and it remains the main form in American English. But in Britain ketchup has gradually established itself since the early 18th century.
It should also be noted that there are more varieties of ketchup/catsup than tomato.
Walnut ketchup comes to mind, but other than knowing that such a condiment exists, I have no idea what it's like.

True, but Stofsk was asking for the meaning more then the wonderful veggie that we have(that one still boggles the mind...we considered that pasty stuff a Veggie)

Stark · Post by **Stark** » 2004-05-07 11:09pm

Zaia wrote:You weren't paying attention; I gave a link to a place where anyone in the States could buy meat pies.

Man, I'm not sure there's anywhere here that DOESN'T sell meat pies!

Zaia wrote:And no one suggested looking in the international section of the grocery store or any international/specialty grocery store. Both places would most likely have them too.

Meat pies next to the couscous? I'm telling John Howard! LMAO!

Post by **Zaia** » 2004-05-07 11:10pm

Stark wrote:Meat pies next to the couscous? I'm telling John Howard! LMAO!

Go ahead--let the git cry in his VB.

Executor32 · Post by **Executor32** » 2004-05-08 12:16am

That reminds me of the different-colored varieties of tomato ketchup that Heinz came out with a few years ago, geared towards prepubescent children of course. I remember it well because, apparently, the rest of my family focuses more on appearance and less on taste, as they couldn't stand the though of eating anything with purple or green ketchup on it. On the other hand, I can't stand the thought of mixing the different foods in my meal together before they're in my stomach. I don't know about them, but I actually have taste buds on my tongue, and the thought of having the tastes and textures of barbecued pork chops, applesauce, and mashed potatoes with butter all in my mouth at the same time is not the least bit appealing.

Thirdfain, you can get microwave- and oven-ready meat pies at almost any grocery store. They're in the frozen foods section.

Oh, and if 'pot noodles' is an Aussie/UK term for Japanese ramen noodles, then yes, college students subsist on almost nothing else here. That, the aforementioned meat pies, and cheap microwave dinners. Indeed, for the subspecies Homo sapiens sapiens scholaris collegialis americana , there's nothing quite like radioactive chicken-like nuggets, radioactive mashed-potato-like paste, and a radioactive rock-hard brownie!