STGOD 4 OOC Thread

[Straha]

Speaking of which, Straha, I think you might have missed my most recent post on the bottom of page 71, it is regarding the meeting between my diplomat and the political prince.

Nope, I got it. I truncated the quote of you however.

[Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi]

If it is not too late to butt in, I was thinking that my faction could end up at war with some other faction after they make a first strike. Would this be possible?

[InnocentBystander]

You can do whatever you want, within reason, but understand, that right now, the chance of a 1-on-1 battle between nations is unlikely; the Rape of Terra has really brought people togather. Unless by faction you mean a group within your own nation, in which case, have fun with your civil war.

[Alyrium Denryle]

"Well, I think a massive trolling device wih an enchanted net device to purify the water would work. They would be numerous in number, but it would help earth greatly"

Just so it’s clear, there are no quick fixes for any of earth's problems; the temperature will continue to rise, melting the polar ice caps. The oceanic ecosystems are all basically destroyed, aside, perhaps, from the deep sea ones. Most vegetation will die out, the planet's already weakened atmosphere will no longer be able to replenish itself, and aside from people living in underground cities or archology type structures very little life will be able to live on the surface for decades.

Speaking of which, Straha, I think you might have missed my most recent post on the bottom of page 71, it is regarding the meeting between my diplomat and the political prince.

I am well aware, and it will take time for those ships to be constructed. However, if you ever want to be able to purify something as vast as the oceans...

[Shark Bait]

Fixing the oceans should be a top priority though because once that is fixed the earths atmosphear will be easier to stabalize in temperture. Even if most of the life in the ocean is cooked the massive ammount of water would be able to circulate and stabalize the tempertures.

[InnocentBystander]

It will take years, decades even, before any filtration process could yield any noticeable results. Clean waters are the least of earth's worries, especially since the polar ice caps are rapidly melting away, diluting the oceans, and that will screw the world over first. You see, Earth's oceans are cooled by a giant under water current called the "thermohaline circulation", this has a lot to do with the maintenance of earth's temperatures, on the whole. It works because of the ocean's high salt content, however if the ice caps were to melt the water would be too diluted to effectively maintain the earth's temperature. If the melting is not slowed or reversed within weeks the damage may be irreversible. I'll also point out that a couple tons of radioactive dust mixed in won't make a difference when you consider just how much water there is. If you want to help earth, find a way to cool it off within a few weeks.

Oh and don't forget, you don't want to go overboard, you don't want things to go from too hot to too cold.

[Thirdfain]

Basically, it's a giant fuckall, and there's no easy answer. It'll take decades of adjustment and hard work, costing quintillions of Combine credits (or whatever,) and Earth will probably never be the same.

Hmm. So sad, too bad

[consequences]

It will take years, decades even, before any filtration process could yield any noticeable results. Clean waters are the least of earth's worries, especially since the polar ice caps are rapidly melting away, diluting the oceans, and that will screw the world over first. You see, Earth's oceans are cooled by a giant under water current called the "thermohaline circulation", this has a lot to do with the maintenance of earth's temperatures, on the whole. It works because of the ocean's high salt content, however if the ice caps were to melt the water would be too diluted to effectively maintain the earth's temperature. If the melting is not slowed or reversed within weeks the damage may be irreversible. I'll also point out that a couple tons of radioactive dust mixed in won't make a difference when you consider just how much water there is. If you want to help earth, find a way to cool it off within a few weeks.

Oh and don't forget, you don't want to go overboard, you don't want things to go from too hot to too cold.

Hmm, if we just generate a massive air conditioner on the moon.
Seriously, it might be possible to absorb a fair amount of that waste heat if someone can come up with a workable heat transfer method. A freighter full of batteries, with a heat to power converter or something. The freighter then flies off, radiates the heat onto a non-life bearing body, and repeat.

[consequences]

Bugsby, I'd say that you are a bit premature possibly, but when the time comes, you'd certainly get the word.
Also note that this is just a seed world, it is in no way his main base.

[Alyrium Denryle]

It will take years, decades even, before any filtration process could yield any noticeable results. Clean waters are the least of earth's worries, especially since the polar ice caps are rapidly melting away, diluting the oceans, and that will screw the world over first. You see, Earth's oceans are cooled by a giant under water current called the "thermohaline circulation", this has a lot to do with the maintenance of earth's temperatures, on the whole. It works because of the ocean's high salt content, however if the ice caps were to melt the water would be too diluted to effectively maintain the earth's temperature. If the melting is not slowed or reversed within weeks the damage may be irreversible. I'll also point out that a couple tons of radioactive dust mixed in won't make a difference when you consider just how much water there is. If you want to help earth, find a way to cool it off within a few weeks.

Oh and don't forget, you don't want to go overboard, you don't want things to go from too hot to too cold.

I am well aware of the above concerns. Still, regardless of the polar icecaps melting etc, the water STILL needs to be cleaned of radiation before it will be livable. We cant do everything at once, and the devices were intended be a joint givt to the monocorans in several years.

Also, if we can terraform worlds, we can clean them up. To get the polar icecaps to stop melting, do the same thing you do when a world is slightly to warm.

[Bugsby]

Bugsby, I'd say that you are a bit premature possibly, but when the time comes, you'd certainly get the word.
Also note that this is just a seed world, it is in no way his main base.

I know its not his main world, but my contract is to kill anything. Well, for now I will let the post stand, but I will not act on it until you post that my fleet is approaching your blockade. K?

[consequences]

Bugsby, I'd say that you are a bit premature possibly, but when the time comes, you'd certainly get the word.
Also note that this is just a seed world, it is in no way his main base.

I know its not his main world, but my contract is to kill anything. Well, for now I will let the post stand, but I will not act on it until you post that my fleet is approaching your blockade. K?

Solid.

[Shark Bait]

Earth's oceans are cooled by a giant under water current called the "thermohaline circulation", this has a lot to do with the maintenance of earth's temperatures, on the whole. It works because of the ocean's high salt content, however if the ice caps were to melt the water would be too diluted to effectively maintain the earth's temperature. If the melting is not slowed or reversed within weeks the damage may be irreversible

I am fully aware of Thermohaline circulation, but if you clean and cool the surface waters it will help slow the air temperture from rising to high. Also it will keep the heavier particals which have been dumped into the ocean from sinking with the saltier water which could interupt the circulation on the other end as it rises once more to the surface. Lastly the system cycles the water and salt particals in it once every 2000 years so it's not going to stop overnight.

The other reason the water may need to take a high priority is because it is the best natural filtering device ever, something like 30 tons of atmospheric CO2 is absorbed through the water ever year.

[Pablo Sanchez]

Also, if we can terraform worlds, we can clean them up. To get the polar icecaps to stop melting, do the same thing you do when a world is slightly to warm.

Enormous solar reflector sheets would be the best way to do this. Keep sunlight from hitting the Earth... of course, that's going to make things rather hard on whatever vegetation still exists, but you can always replant from another planet's stocks.

[consequences]

Also, if we can terraform worlds, we can clean them up. To get the polar icecaps to stop melting, do the same thing you do when a world is slightly to warm.

Enormous solar reflector sheets would be the best way to do this. Keep sunlight from hitting the Earth... of course, that's going to make things rather hard on whatever vegetation still exists, but you can always replant from another planet's stocks.

Its not like the vegetation had much by way of survival prospects right now anyway.
Edit: of course, you would want us to do half your work for you, and block all sunlight from hitting the Earth, you devious blood-sucking leech.

[InnocentBystander]

Basically, it's a giant fuckall, and there's no easy answer. It'll take decades of adjustment and hard work, costing quintillions of Combine credits (or whatever,) and Earth will probably never be the same.

Hmm. So sad, too bad

Yep! Most esitamtes say that once the Thermohaline circulation fails it won't come back, not to mention most of the animal and plants that haven't been moved offworld and bred are gone for good.

[Sea Skimmer]

Really they told us that a sabot would still manage to destory the target with reactive armor?

Almost all reactive armor is "light" and indeed won't do shit to a sabot. Only the latest Russian tanks and some Russian tanks exported to India have the heavy reactive plating, which breaks up sabots.

[Thirdfain]

Almost all reactive armor is "light" and indeed won't do shit to a sabot. Only the latest Russian tanks and some Russian tanks exported to India have the heavy reactive plating, which breaks up sabots.

But that's unimportant when dealing with fractional C kinetic strikes, right?

[InnocentBystander]

I would suppose if each explosive pannel had a complex sensor array able to detect such a small object moving towards it at such speeds than I suppose it work pretty well; but I think thats beyond DS9 tech.

[Thirdfain]

I would suppose if each explosive pannel had a complex sensor array able to detect such a small object moving towards it at such speeds than I suppose it work pretty well; but I think thats beyond DS9 tech.

On the contrary, I don't think so at all. Perhaps you don't fully comprehend the truly incredible amount of force a fractional-c projectile imparts on it's target. A railgun shell doesn't blow a hole through a ship, leaving a cooling cannonball somewhere in side, rather, it converts to energy instantly upon conact with the target in a very impressive explosion. Merely blowing some hot gas at it with reactive armor wouldn't do shit to it..

[Sea Skimmer]

But that's unimportant when dealing with fractional C kinetic strikes, right?

Thats what I already said. The exception would be if the reactive plates hwere so big they could absorb the force of the hit within there own mass, shock damage would still occure though. But in that case the ships would be gaining no advantage since they be hauling around millions of tons of the stuff and might as well just have more normal armor.

[Captain tycho]

Well crap. I've been *extremely* these last few days, and the amount of activity on the STGOD has left my gov. lagging behind. So now Im rather lost with my gov, so I'll retire it and leave it as an NPC, and start a new one up (again, sadly, I liked the current gov, but I just got left behind because of my busyness. )

[Thirdfain]

Why abandon it? Frankly, I don't see why should. There's nothing unsalvagable.

[Pablo Sanchez]

Well crap. I've been *extremely* these last few days, and the amount of activity on the STGOD has left my gov. lagging behind. So now Im rather lost with my gov, so I'll retire it and leave it as an NPC, and start a new one up (again, sadly, I liked the current gov, but I just got left behind because of my busyness. )

Please, I'd prefer to keep NPC powers out of this (as they tend to be nothing more than juicy targets) and the balance shifts every time someone creates a new nation. If a joining player doesn't already have a power, such a shift is more than welcome... but in your case, I'd just suggest you bear with it.

[Thirdfain]

Pablo, I'm having trouble placing him- Which Kurosawa film is your Av from? I want to say 7 Samurai, but I'm not sure....