Your ideal election

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » 2004-05-10 10:01am

Okay, America seems to have a thing with elections sucking ass lately. In 2000, we had Bush and Gore, and it was kind of a crap shoot. Now we have Bush and Kerry at a time where people don't want Bush, but they're not exactly sure about Kerry either.

So fuck those three. What would be your ideal election? What two candidates running from the two major parties would seriously make you consider both of them and have to make a tough call based on each one's virtues, rather than which one sucks less? Note that ineligible candidates (like Clinton or other former two-term presidents) aren't eligible here.

For me, I was thinking McCain from the Republican party (though he's now an independent) and maybe Clark from the Democrats.

Col. Crackpot · Post by **Col. Crackpot** » 2004-05-10 11:18am

I'd like President John McCain and Vice President Rudy Gulianni....or vise versa. The token opposition would be Sen. Joe Biden (D-Del.) for President and oh, i dunno Max Cleland (D-GA) for VP.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2004-05-10 11:40am

I can't honestly say that there are any Democrats out there right now that I'd have a hard time picking over a decent Republican/conservative candidate. But as much of that is problem with the Democratic party as anything.

Candidates I'd like to see:

John McCain
Damn I wish he would have had the nomination in the last go around. He actually seemed to care about the issues and have some integrity. Not to mention I really would like to have seen campaign finance reform of some sort.

John Engler
An actual fiscal conservative for the most. He's also proven he can handle reforming welfare and other social programs as well as handling the economy. As another plus he doesn't have the close ties to the religious right that many conservatives have. I hope the talk of him running in 2008 is true.

Rudy Gulianni
Need I say more?

The Kernel · Post by **The Kernel** » 2004-05-10 12:58pm

You know, I really liked the 96 election. Bob Dole and Clinton were both strong candidates and this was prior to much of the Clinton sex scandals, so the issues were still the big part of the debate.

Today I'd have to agree that I'd like to see McCain run (he's the only Republican I'd seriously consider voting for) as the man simply has integrity about his job and somehow manages to rise above most aspects of partisan politics (though I'm very disapointed that he's campaigning for Bush right now). As for a Democratic opponent...well, isn't that the problem with the Democratic party today? Lack of strong leadership?

Col. Crackpot · Post by **Col. Crackpot** » 2004-05-10 03:28pm

The Kernel wrote: As for a Democratic opponent...well, isn't that the problem with the Democratic party today? Lack of strong leadership?

that was their problem before Clinton as well: no leadership. Mondale? Dukakis? Heck even now.... Kerry is Dukakis without the backbone.

Xenophobe3691 · Post by **Xenophobe3691** » 2004-05-10 03:41pm

Wait, wasn't there another time in History where fractured Democrat politics allowed an even more controversial Republican candidate to win the election? Go President Lincoln!

Howedar · Post by **Howedar** » 2004-05-10 04:49pm

I'd like McCain vs. Dean, personally.

Phil Skayhan · Post by **Phil Skayhan** » 2004-05-10 06:56pm

Paul Begala vs Rudy Guiliani

Begala's main disadvantage is that he has not held an elected office.

Bertie Wooster · Post by **Bertie Wooster** » 2004-05-10 07:08pm

In the last election I was hoping for McCain vs Bradley. I'd prefer both those candidates now as well.

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2004-05-10 07:11pm

Give me John McCain... and oh... dont know... Edwards... I would however, vote McCain

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2004-05-10 07:11pm

Curtis E LeMay vs John F Kennedy

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2004-05-10 07:32pm

Stom Thurmond vs. Robert Byrd, with Ross Perot running as an independent.

It would be hilarious.

The Kernel · Post by **The Kernel** » 2004-05-10 07:35pm

Joe wrote:Stom Thurmond vs. Robert Byrd, with Ross Perot running as an independent.

It would be hilarious.

There's a reason that Thurmond never ran for President you know. I think it's mainly because someone was bound to ask the question of WHY he left the Democratic Party.

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2004-05-10 07:38pm

He did run for President, as a Dixiecrat. He got 39 electoral votes.

Another thing; if during the Florida re-re-recount fiasco hadn't been settled by the time it was Bill Clinton's time to leave office, Strom Thurmond would have become the President for a while.

The Kernel · Post by **The Kernel** » 2004-05-10 07:41pm

Joe wrote:He did run for President, as a Dixiecrat. He got 39 electoral votes.

Right, that slipped my mind for a second. Still, in today's climate it would be hard for him to avoid being labeled as anything but a racist.

Another thing; if during the Florida re-re-recount fiasco hadn't been settled by the time it was Bill Clinton's time to leave office, Strom Thurmond would have become the President for a while.

...I'd just as soon have been ignorant of that little factoid...

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2004-05-10 07:54pm

Another thing; if during the Florida re-re-recount fiasco hadn't been settled by the time it was Bill Clinton's time to leave office, Strom Thurmond would have become the President for a while.

...I'd just as soon have been ignorant of that little factoid...

It would have gone first to Dennis Hastert, Speaker of the House, but he'd have refused it so as not to lose his position. Then it would have done to Strom, and he'd probably have taken it.

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2004-05-10 08:28pm

Joe wrote:Then it would have done to Strom, and he'd probably have taken it.

STROM THURMOND, 43rd President of the United Staaaaates!

Andrew J. · Post by **Andrew J.** » 2004-05-10 08:28pm

Dennis Kucinich vs. Orrin Hatch, just because it would be so weird.

Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi · Post by **Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi** » 2004-05-10 10:21pm

Andrew J. wrote:Dennis Kucinich vs. Orrin Hatch, just because it would be so weird.

It would be wierd, but it would be even worse than the situation we have now. If you want it to be even wierder, throw a Zombie Richard Nixon and a Zombie Paul Wellsone running together on a Zombie Party ticket. Their biggest issue would be "BRAAAAINNNSSS!"

CelesKnight · Post by **CelesKnight** » 2004-05-10 10:36pm

MKSheppard wrote:
Joe wrote:Then it would have done to Strom, and he'd probably have taken it.
STROM THURMOND, 43rd President of the United Staaaaates!

Dead people aren't eligible for the Presidency. Although, I wouldn't be surprised to see his corpse win another senate seat. I can just sorta imagine the praise we would get at his first deathday celibration. "This corpse would have been right in the 50's! It would have been right at the founding of the nation, and we wouldn't have all of these problem! We're going to go on to win! Yeeearg!"

Sorry, I have no idea why I wrote that, and even less idea why I'm about to hit Submit.

Col. Crackpot · Post by **Col. Crackpot** » 2004-05-11 07:24am

MKSheppard wrote:Curtis E LeMay vs John F Kennedy

General Curtis E LeMay = good
President Curtis E LeMay = fucking scary

KrauserKrauser · Post by **KrauserKrauser** » 2004-05-11 03:22pm

Bruce Banner vs. All comers...

Because if he loses....HULK SMASH!!!!

Hamel · Post by **Hamel** » 2004-05-11 03:23pm

Chomsky vs Nader