Nintendo DS vs. Sony PSP: FIGHT!

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2004-05-12 01:14am

Alrighty, at E3, the Nintendo DS was released -- their new portable gaming system with dual-screens. It is more powerful than an N64 yet small enough to fit in a largish pocket.

Sony has finally brought out their Playstation Portable and it too looks good.

If you want pics, use Google :p

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-05-12 01:27am

Wow, the PSP is truly gorgeous...

EDIT: Here are some really good and huge pics of the PSP:
http://www.ferrago.com/media/3562

Icehawk · Post by **Icehawk** » 2004-05-12 01:44am

Interesting, although I wonder if the two screen perspective thing will cause problems for developers or if they will even bother to make much use of it. An interesting idea though.

Personally im still leaning toward the PSP as it is more compact and I prefer the 16x9 display. The dual screen GB DS may very well have a higher price because of its extra LCD screen as well though we'll have to wait and see.

Ace Pace · Post by **Ace Pace** » 2004-05-12 02:29am

Watching the DS in action (in comaprision to the PSP, who up till now has only shown movies), I think DS will win, HUGE battery life, no extravagent price, and look at the games!

Anarchist Bunny · Post by **Anarchist Bunny** » 2004-05-12 04:44pm

The PSP looks... ew.

Sharp-kun · Post by **Sharp-kun** » 2004-05-12 04:51pm

I have my dounts about the PSP. One of which is the fact that Sony have yet to show that it will be more durable than the PS2.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-05-12 05:26pm

Anarchist Bunny wrote:The PSP looks... ew.

What's wrong with it, specifically?

I love it, personally. It's understated and fits with Sony's current design ethics for their other products.

Robert Treder · Post by **Robert Treder** » 2004-05-12 06:57pm

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:
Anarchist Bunny wrote:The PSP looks... ew.
What's wrong with it, specifically?

I love it, personally. It's understated and fits with Sony's current design ethics for their other products.

To me, it looks good, but it also looks like it'd be a pain to hold.

The DS looks pretty sick. From what I hear, it'll have an IM-type service within its 30-ft range, and it allows for wireless multiplay, and you can play multiplayer even if you haven't bought the cartridge. And the lower screen can be used as a touch-screen. On top of that, it's backwards compatible with old Gameboy/Gameboy Advanced cartridges.

They say it has voice control, too, but I've always thought that was kind of a lame gimmick.

AnimeJet · Post by **AnimeJet** » 2004-05-13 12:46am

http://www.nintendo.com/e3_2004/ds/ds_overview.jsp

-Dual screens, each 3" diagonally, backlit.
-Lower screen is touch screen
-Microphone w/ voice recognition
-Wireless gaming + chatting
-Two slots for backwards compatability and add-ons

DS is so gonna pwn PSP in the ass >.>

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-05-13 12:53am

The DS just seems to gimicky, though (that and it looks like it's made by Playskool). Then there's Nintendo's little platform dedication problem to deal with...

Clone Sergeant · Post by **Clone Sergeant** » 2004-05-13 03:51am

Based on what I've read, the most recent photos of the DS are of a functioning prototype mockup and the final design has yet to be decided upon.

Both look very promising to me. The games being developed for the PSP will be probably be very competitive with whatever Nintendo puts out for the DS. Metal Gear:Acid and GT4 for example. On the other, hand the DS can run games that are in-between the N64 and the GCN in quality so expect a glut of retro ports (good and bad) for it. In all likelyhood, I will end up buying both. Unless the price point for the PSP is too ridiculous, given all the features Sony plans on shipping it with.

Icehawk · Post by **Icehawk** » 2004-05-13 03:57am

Has their been any concrete hardware specs released for either of them? Like how fast a processor and how much ram etc.?

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2004-05-13 07:17am

Gimmicks!

Valdemar laughs, laughs I say, at those that insist on buying every console out there especially when brand new.

Valdemar knew many people who bought the first version of the N-Gage for full price only to find a newer, better designed version come out for cheaper.

My GB Colo(u)r has always been faithful to me when the need for portable videogaming has been necessary.

Other than that, I read a damn book.

Ace Pace · Post by **Ace Pace** » 2004-05-13 12:39pm

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:The DS just seems to gimicky, though (that and it looks like it's made by Playskool). Then there's Nintendo's little platform dedication problem to deal with...

People who have used the DS say its easy to get used to, and its very fun.

On the PSP, we have seen NO games running on it, only movie trailers, makes me wonder.

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2004-05-13 01:58pm

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:The DS just seems to gimicky, though (that and it looks like it's made by Playskool). Then there's Nintendo's little platform dedication problem to deal with...

IIRC, Nintendo has always been pretty dedicated to their portable machines, if not their home consoles.

Vendetta · Post by **Vendetta** » 2004-05-13 02:18pm

Ace Pace wrote: On the PSP, we have seen NO games running on it, only movie trailers, makes me wonder.

We have seen mockups though, which look like reasonable PS2 games.

Ace Pace · Post by **Ace Pace** » 2004-05-13 02:20pm

My bad, watching GS live, it seems some games running, I don't remember names. But why music\video\games? Why are they going the bloated N-gage way?

The Kernel · Post by **The Kernel** » 2004-05-13 03:48pm

Icehawk wrote:Has their been any concrete hardware specs released for either of them? Like how fast a processor and how much ram etc.?

Yes, and the PSP is far more powerful. The PSP uses a MIPS CPU very similar to the one in the PS2 with 32MB of RAM and 4MB of embedded cache on the GPU (strikingly similar to the PS2 eh?). For all intents and purposes, the PSP is just as powerful as the PS2, only in a handheld package.

Judging by what we've seen of the DS games, it doesn't appear to be even as much of a polygon pusher as the N64. We'll know more as soon as Nintendo releases official specs.

The Kernel · Post by **The Kernel** » 2004-05-13 03:56pm

Robert Treder wrote: To me, it looks good, but it also looks like it'd be a pain to hold.

It uses the same setup as the late Lynx which was a joy to hold.

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2004-05-13 05:23pm

If you want to see what the PSP can do, can we say MGS2 level quality?

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2004-05-13 05:31pm

Ace Pace wrote:My bad, watching GS live, it seems some games running, I don't remember names. But why music\video\games? Why are they going the bloated N-gage way?

Don't you mean 'The same way the Playstation went'?

SAMAS · Post by **SAMAS** » 2004-05-13 05:36pm

Admiral Valdemar wrote:Gimmicks!

Valdemar laughs, laughs I say, at those that insist on buying every console out there especially when brand new.

Valdemar knew many people who bought the first version of the N-Gage for full price only to find a newer, better designed version come out for cheaper.

No, I think the games were humiliation enough.

My GB Colo(u)r has always been faithful to me when the need for portable videogaming has been necessary.

*Taunts AV with SP and copies of Metroid Zero Mission and Advance Wars*

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-05-13 06:01pm

Admiral Valdemar wrote:If you want to see what the PSP can do, can we say MGS2 level quality?

Nice. I might actually look into getting one once they come out.

Hamel · Post by **Hamel** » 2004-05-13 07:00pm

One of the pictures of the DS had Mario Kart 64(?) on the display. A wall looked extremely pixelated as if it was rendered on a 486.

OTOH, the Metroid game looked 64'ish

Bob McDob · Post by **Bob McDob** » 2004-05-13 07:10pm

Ace Pace wrote:
Spanky The Dolphin wrote:The DS just seems to gimicky, though (that and it looks like it's made by Playskool). Then there's Nintendo's little platform dedication problem to deal with...
People who have used the DS say its easy to get used to, and its very fun.

On the PSP, we have seen NO games running on it, only movie trailers, makes me wonder.

Actually, there were games running on it at E3, which my understanding is looked "fantastic".