More Iraqi Abuse Pix - The worst is yet to come

Plekhanov · Post by **Plekhanov** » 2004-05-13 11:10pm

LEASH GAL'S SEX PIX

May 13, 2004 -- WASHINGTON - Shocking shots of sexcapades involving Pfc. Lynndie England were among the hundreds of X-rated photos and videos from the Abu Ghraib prison scandal shown to lawmakers in a top-secret Capitol conference room yesterday.
"She was having sex with numerous partners. It appeared to be consensual," said a lawmaker who saw the photos.
And, videos showed the disgraced soldier - made notorious in a photo showing her holding a leash looped around an Iraqi prisoner's neck - engaged in graphic sex acts with other soldiers in front of Iraqi prisoners, Pentagon officials told NBC Nightly News.
"Almost everybody was naked all the time," another lawmaker said.
Many members of Congress left the 45-minute viewing session early, thereby missing the porno performance by England, but there were enough other images of torture, humiliation and intimidation to sicken anyone.
"It was pretty disgusting, not what you'd expect from Americans," said Sen. Norm Coleman (R-Minn.). "There was lots of sexual stuff - not of the Iraqis, but of our troops."
Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.), who also characterized the photos as "disgusting," agreed, noting, "It's hard to believe that this actually is taking place in a military facility."
The shocking photos and videos, provided on computer disks by Pentagon officials, showed attack dogs snarling at cowering prisoners, Iraqi women forced to expose their breasts, and naked prisoners tied together on the floor, senators revealed as they emerged from the heavily guarded conference room.
"It was significantly worse than I had anticipated," said Sen. Ron Wyden (D-Ore). "Take the worst case and multiply it over several times."
"I don't know how these people got into our Army," said Sen. Ben Nighthorse Campbell (R-Colo.), who reported seeing "several pictures of Iraqi women who were disrobed or putting their shirts up."
Sen. Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) described the images as "more detailed and more graphic than the pictures that have been released publicly," referring to the disturbing photos of Iraqis being abused at Abu Ghraib prison that surfaced two weeks ago, and which Islamic terrorists claim led to this week's revenge beheading of American Nick Berg.
"Normally, I side with disclosure and openness, but in this case, these photos are evidence," Schumer said, indicating that he favors keeping the lid on the alarming pictures, as Vice President Dick Cheney and Sen. John Warner (R-Va.) have urged.
Rep. Jane Harman (Calif.), ranking Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, said she was most appalled by a video of a handcuffed prisoner beating his head against a wall in an apparent bid to knock himself unconscious to escape abuse.
In another video clip, she said, a group of men were shown masturbating.
Before the pictures of England's sex romps were shown to Congress, the 21-year-old reservist from West Virginia tried to portray herself as a reluctant participant who was just following orders.
"I didn't really, I mean, want to be in any pictures," England told a Denver TV station.
"I was instructed by persons in higher rank to 'stand there, hold this leash, look at the camera,' and they took picture for PsyOps [psychological operations]," she told KCNC-TV.
England acknowledged "it was kind of weird" when she was photographed smiling, with a cigarette in her mouth, as she leaned forward and pointed at the genitals of a naked, hooded Iraqi at Abu Ghraib prison.
England has refused to identify who gave her the orders, saying only that they came from "persons in my chain of command."
England faces a military court-martial that includes charges such as conspiracy to maltreat prisoners and assault consummated by battery.
She could face punishment ranging from a reprimand to more than 15 years in prison.
Additional reporting by Niles Lathem

I must confess I’m shocked I fully expected the torture and humiliation of prisoners but this? I don’t know how credible the New York Post is, I hope its all bullshit, but if this is true it’s hard to imagine a better way to confirm all the worst things many people in the Arab world feel about the “degenerate west”.

Montcalm · Post by **Montcalm** » 2004-05-13 11:14pm

I won't be surprised when in future conflicts the enemies does the same to any American or British prisoners.

Aaron · Post by **Aaron** » 2004-05-13 11:31pm

May 13, 2004 -- WASHINGTON - Shocking shots of sexcapades involving Pfc. Lynndie England were among the hundreds of X-rated photos and videos from the Abu Ghraib prison scandal shown to lawmakers in a top-secret Capitol conference room yesterday.
"She was having sex with numerous partners. It appeared to be consensual," said a lawmaker who saw the photos.
And, videos showed the disgraced soldier - made notorious in a photo showing her holding a leash looped around an Iraqi prisoner's neck - engaged in graphic sex acts with other soldiers in front of Iraqi prisoners, Pentagon officials told NBC Nightly News.

Well this shoots her "I was only following orders" defense full of holes, not that it was an acceptable defense to begin with. Does she expect us to believe that her superiors ordered her to perform these acts?

kojikun · Post by **kojikun** » 2004-05-13 11:47pm

Can't blame the bitch for getting fucked by them tho. She's but ugly, probably the only way she'd ever get dick.

Post by **Vympel** » 2004-05-14 12:03am

kojikun wrote:Can't blame the bitch for getting fucked by them tho. She's but ugly, probably the only way she'd ever get dick.

ROFLMAO ........ *wipes tear from eye*

Post by **fgalkin** » 2004-05-14 12:10am

Well, this is the Post, so expect the real story to be somewhat different. However, if most of it is true, than Pfc. England is one fucked up bitch

Have a very nice day.
-fgalkin

Plekhanov · Post by **Plekhanov** » 2004-05-14 12:19am

The shocking photos and videos, provided on computer disks by Pentagon officials, showed attack dogs snarling at cowering prisoners, Iraqi women forced to expose their breasts, and naked prisoners tied together on the floor, senators revealed as they emerged from the heavily guarded conference room.
"It was significantly worse than I had anticipated," said Sen. Ron Wyden (D-Ore). "Take the worst case and multiply it over several times."
"I don't know how these people got into our Army," said Sen. Ben Nighthorse Campbell (R-Colo.), who reported seeing "several pictures of Iraqi women who were disrobed or putting their shirts up."

It’s the sexual abuse of Iraqi women that really concerns me, there are few things more likely to radicalise young males than their sisters, cousins, girlfriends… being abused by “liberators”.

If just one of these gets out it will be an iconic image rallying countless young Iraqis to the resistance.

To think Bush must have known these were going to come out before he said of Rumsfeld "Thank you for your leadership. You are courageously leading our nation in the war against terror.” The other night.” For fucks sake how can anybody even consider voting for this guy it’s almost as he’s trying to piss the Iraqis off, I pity the troops on the ground under the “leadership” of this moron.

Bush goes on Arab TV and says people "must understand that what took place in that prison does not represent the America that I know," like that will convincxe anybody, guess what you moron they represent the America a worryingly large amount of Arabs know and they couldn’t give a shit what deluded vision of america you live in. The America they know starves them for 10 years, bombs them, occupies them and then takes sick photos of them when they’re being held without charge.

I despair i really do

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2004-05-14 01:20am

Steven Colbert on The Daily Show had the funniest quote on Bush's "That's not the America I know" comments: "it's something we did, but it's not something we would do".

EmperorMing · Post by **EmperorMing** » 2004-05-14 02:48am

kojikun wrote:Can't blame the bitch for getting fucked by them tho. She's but ugly, probably the only way she'd ever get dick.

In Korea, this concept was known as 'Queen For A Year'. Seen it; some females should not be seen near another *human* male...

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » 2004-05-14 09:31am

Darth Wong wrote:Steven Colbert on The Daily Show had the funniest quote on Bush's "That's not the America I know" comments: "it's something we did, but it's not something we would do".

I believe that was Rob Corrdry. Colbert has been absent for the past week or so.

Chris OFarrell · Post by **Chris OFarrell** » 2004-05-14 10:26am

Yey! In the Islamic world where they are so obsessive about female modesty they have Women covered in heavy cloth to various extremes (and in Iraq IIRC its generally the stricter standards with only the eyes uncovered) we have them forced to flash for the cameras!

Oh happy happy JOY JOY, this is going to be received so amazingly well by the people of Iraq! *ESPECIALY* the fundamentalist outliers who are the ones behind the uprisings and who will be OH so happy at this!

Holy fuck, someone check and see if these US troops are actually sleeper Al’Quada operatives, deliberately creating maximum hostility towards the US?

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » 2004-05-14 12:08pm

I can't imagine very many ways which we could fuck up worse over there. If Bush wasn't so conservative, I'd say he was stupid enough to let the "Girls Gone Wild" crew do a video in Iraq.

Thinkmarble · Post by **Thinkmarble** » 2004-05-14 12:15pm

Chris OFarrell wrote:Yey! In the Islamic world where they are so obsessive about female modesty they have Women covered in heavy cloth to various extremes (and in Iraq IIRC its generally the stricter standards with only the eyes uncovered) we have them forced to flash for the cameras!

Remember that the dictatorship of Sadam Hussei was secular, so many women actually wear clothes not much different from western standarts.
Or rather they would if they could, as since the invasion this has became dangerous.

Plekhanov · Post by **Plekhanov** » 2004-05-14 02:37pm

Thinkmarble wrote:Remember that the dictatorship of Sadam Hussei was secular, so many women actually wear clothes not much different from western standarts.
Or rather they would if they could, as since the invasion this has became dangerous.

I don't think it really matters if you are a fundie or not or how much skin you are used to seeing women expose, seeing photos of your country women being sexually mistreated/humiliated by foreigners occupying your country is going to drive young men into the resistance.

Sir Sirius · Post by **Sir Sirius** » 2004-05-14 05:51pm

Durandal wrote:I can't imagine very many ways which we could fuck up worse over there.

You could try sending thousands of tons of pork to Iraq to promote the products of American pig farmers so that they could get a foothold on the local market, you could even disguise it a humanitarian effort by claiming that it is a part of the nation building program.

GySgt. Hartman · Post by **GySgt. Hartman** » 2004-05-14 06:41pm

Yeah, and tell them that is was pork only a few months later.

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2004-05-14 07:00pm

And laced with botulism.

Pablo Sanchez · Post by **Pablo Sanchez** » 2004-05-14 08:03pm

Oh, God, we really fucked up bad this time. Whatever minute level of credibility we had in the Arab world in general and Iraq in particular, you can kiss it goodbye. We are so fucked.

ArchMage · Post by **ArchMage** » 2004-05-14 09:14pm

yea god forbid that some of our troops get caught and to torture them they make em watch porn. WOOP DEE. I see no reason why anyone whould get all upset over people having sex, but the whole killing each other is acceptable.

any actual torture that was going on is horrid, but making them wathc live porn?

Aaron · Post by **Aaron** » 2004-05-14 09:58pm

ArchMage wrote: any actual torture that was going on is horrid, but making them wathc live porn?

To us it's no big deal, but apparently to a devout Muslim it's unacceptable.

SecondStorm · Post by **SecondStorm** » 2004-05-14 10:06pm

ArchMage wrote:yea god forbid that some of our troops get caught and to torture them they make em watch porn. WOOP DEE. I see no reason why anyone whould get all upset over people having sex, but the whole killing each other is acceptable.

any actual torture that was going on is horrid, but making them wathc live porn?

What kind of idiot are you ?

"Live porn" indeed.

It was an enviroment where these prisoners had no control.

They were being forced to masturbate while their captors enjoyed themselves.
Thats exhibitionism in the extreme.
Its emotional torture and noone who have even the slightest sense of moral dignity left would do such a thing.

One of prisoners were trying to beat himself senseless to avoid seing Pfc Englands escapades!

Thats fucking disgusting.

Thinkmarble · Post by **Thinkmarble** » 2004-05-15 01:08am

Plekhanov wrote: I don't think it really matters if you are a fundie or not or how much skin you are used to seeing women expose, seeing photos of your country women being sexually mistreated/humiliated by foreigners occupying your country is going to drive young men into the resistance.

I'm not disputing that, the post was more aimed at clearing up a missconception.
The USA have lost the moral highground, and I doubt that they will regain it for the duration of the occupation.

Pablo Sanchez · Post by **Pablo Sanchez** » 2004-05-15 12:31pm

ArchMage wrote:I see no reason why anyone whould get all upset over people having sex, but the whole killing each other is acceptable.

any actual torture that was going on is horrid, but making them wathc live porn?

Okay, let me get this straight: Because you don't think it's a big deal, it can't be a big deal for anyone else? For a devout Muslim, watching other people have sex and being naked in front of a strange woman... that's a really big fucking deal.

PainRack · Post by **PainRack** » 2004-05-15 12:46pm

I don't know about this, but being forced to watch someone have sex, especially when one of them is as butt ugly as Pt England isn't something I be happy to sit through.

ArchMage · Post by **ArchMage** » 2004-05-16 08:37pm

its SEX FOR FUCKS SAKE. So they believe its bad because they have been brainwashed by religion. woop dee, its not torture. torture would be... hmmm lets see.. maby cutting a guys head off with a knife?

were the soldiers making the prisoners have sex? were the prisoners being raped or molested?

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