Looking for Good RPGs

EmperorSolo51 · Post by **EmperorSolo51** » 2004-05-15 02:59pm

I was wondering if you guys could point out to me any good RPG games or series on either the console or PC. I've been looking but all I can find are the Final fantasy games at my local computer store. Any help would be most appreciated.

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2004-05-15 03:00pm

EmperorSolo51 wrote:I was wondering if you guys could point out to me any good RPG games or series on either the console or PC. I've been looking but all I can find are the Final fantasy games at my local computer store. Any help would be most appreciated.

Fallout 2 for the PC. Chrono Trigger for the SNES/Playstation.

General Zod · Post by **General Zod** » 2004-05-15 03:05pm

*breaks out the list*

Xenogears
Chrono Cross
dot Hack//Sign
any Zelda game
Xenosaga
Parasite Eve (survival horror/rpg)
Parasite Eve 2
Tales of Phantasia
Star Ocean
Arc the Lad
Phantasy Star series, genesis (you should be able to find a rom of them somewhere)
Shenmue

Ace Pace · Post by **Ace Pace** » 2004-05-15 03:08pm

If you got the hardware, Morrowind is STUNNING. Gameplay and graphics.

General Zod · Post by **General Zod** » 2004-05-15 04:20pm

gah. accidental double post due to the board going wonky. could a mod fix that?

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2004-05-15 04:20pm

SirNitram wrote: Fallout 2 for the PC.

As well as the original Fallout.

lazerus · Post by **lazerus** » 2004-05-15 04:31pm

DPDarkPrimus wrote:
SirNitram wrote: Fallout 2 for the PC.
As well as the original Fallout.

And wasteland.

Get me my vault-suit and pip-boy!

Post by **Dalton** » 2004-05-15 04:57pm

Skies of Arcadia: Legends (GCN)
Chrono Trigger (SNES)
FF2/4 (SNES)
FF3/6 (SNES)
FFX (PS2, though I think they have it for PC as well)

There are lots and lots of good RPGs out there if you know what to look for.

Post by **Dalton** » 2004-05-15 04:58pm

Darth_Zod wrote:Phantasy Star series, genesis (you should be able to find a rom of them somewhere)

Actually, Phantasy Star 1-3 is available as a collection on the GBA.

General Zod · Post by **General Zod** » 2004-05-15 05:00pm

Dalton wrote:
Darth_Zod wrote:Phantasy Star series, genesis (you should be able to find a rom of them somewhere)
Actually, Phantasy Star 1-3 is available as a collection on the GBA.

really? right on. never knew it was. though i still say that PS4 is the best one out of the series, imo.

Post by **Dalton** » 2004-05-15 05:02pm

Darth_Zod wrote:
Dalton wrote:
Darth_Zod wrote:Phantasy Star series, genesis (you should be able to find a rom of them somewhere)
Actually, Phantasy Star 1-3 is available as a collection on the GBA.
really? right on. never knew it was. though i still say that PS4 is the best one out of the series, imo.

Yup! I have it. I've heard tales though that PS3 is really horrible. But Alis, Myau, Odin and Noah will live forever.

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2004-05-15 05:04pm

Dalton wrote:
Darth_Zod wrote:
Dalton wrote: Actually, Phantasy Star 1-3 is available as a collection on the GBA.
really? right on. never knew it was. though i still say that PS4 is the best one out of the series, imo.
Yup! I have it. I've heard tales though that PS3 is really horrible. But Alis, Myau, Odin and Noah will live forever.

Yeah PS3...is at best an Acquired taste...and far too easy.

PS4 along with PS1 are still my fave of that series.

PS2...only problem?

Requiring around an hour of constant combat to get a level.

The Kernel · Post by **The Kernel** » 2004-05-15 05:39pm

Chrono Trigger and its sequel Chrono Cross. You don't need any other games.

Crayz9000 · Post by **Crayz9000** » 2004-05-15 06:05pm

If you want something more old-time, try Nethack and Angband. Both are old-style ASCII-based RPGs, although they have graphical interfaces available. They're also highly addictive once you get used to them.

Gerard_Paloma · Post by **Gerard_Paloma** » 2004-05-15 06:25pm

13 posts and no one's mentioned Planescape: Torment?

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2004-05-15 06:37pm

Gerard_Paloma wrote:13 posts and no one's mentioned Planescape: Torment?

It's a myth.

EmperorSolo51 · Post by **EmperorSolo51** » 2004-05-15 06:46pm

What about the Orginal Suikoden? I have the sequal but I have never played the the first one. Does anybody know if it's any good?

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2004-05-15 07:26pm

EmperorSolo51 wrote:What about the Orginal Suikoden? I have the sequal but I have never played the the first one. Does anybody if it's any good?

They are an acquired flavor...and I mean this about all of them(including the Japanese only Gaidens)

They tend not to focus on any one person and more on the reflection of politics in the land...some focus is given on the mains, but nowhere near most mainstream console games.

If you can find 1 & 2 cheap...best of luck...they are decent, but odd. And a shitload of party members

Vendetta · Post by **Vendetta** » 2004-05-15 07:28pm

Dalton wrote: FFX (PS2, though I think they have it for PC as well)

X is PS2 only.

The PC got ports of VII, VIII, and XI.

There's a lot of fun stuff out there, but I'd limit your attentions in the area of traditional Console/Japanese RPGs, they're fun and all, but the game mechanics are still largely stuck in the NES era. In fact, the ones that have already been mentioned are about the lot as far as really good ones go. (Though I would add Wild Arms 3, because it's got a great atmosphere, and for once it's a game where people are sensible, and use guns. All the time.)

Otherwise, look out for:

Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter (PS2) - nothing to do with the first four plot-wise, it's a bastard hybrid of Diablo style dungeon crawling with X-Com style AP-limited turn based combat (simplified cost structure though). Made really interesting by the limitations it imposes on you - healing is limited, because you can only heal with items, which you have to buy, saves are limited because you have a limited number of save tokens, and you can turn into a Dragon (natch), but do that too often and you hit the brick wall of Game Over. and when it is game over you go back to the beginning, but you keep some of your experience (battles give you two kinds, one goes direct to the character, one is pooled and can be spent or saved for next time), and any equipment and skills are kept. You lose all your levels and items though.

Grandia II (Dreamcast, PC) - The two Grandia games essentially have the same story (which is also rehashed in FFX), but Grandia II has a twistier and more ambiguous one. And Justin is a tit. The core interest of hte games is the battle system, which faintly resembles the ATB system from Final Fantasy, but allows you to do more to manipulate the action sequence, using your attacks right allows you to delay or cancel enemy actions, and using your own special actions has a delay to execute, meaning you may get hit whilst they charge. Also it has Millennia, and that's reason enough. Ignore the PS2 port, it was programmed by monkeys.

Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles (GCN/GBA) - Unlike the traditional FF games, this one has action based combat. The singleplayer implementation is hardly deep, but there's enough in the play between differnent spells and abilities to keep you interested. Handily it dumps any cost associated with using magic other than the cost of keeping the spell in you arciton list and the time it takes to cast (MP costs are a bugbear for me, as they usually end up just introducing a break in balance where a magic user is penalised for using abilities that are no more powerful than what a melee character can do for free). The big deal with CC though is that it has simultaneous 4 player co-op, where you can combine different spells and abilities to do all sorts of fancy stuff.

Summoner 2 (PS2/GCN) - The Summoner games aren't spectacular, and the first one at least is embarrassingly bad technically (you can see about ten paces the draw distance is that short), but the second one introduces a more interesting combat system, some varied areas and characters, and the world and world design is pretty interesting, but the main draw of the series is the massive wealth of sidequests of varying size and complexity. The first Summoner game is worth checking out just to see Lenele, the main city, which is vast, but then you can't actually see much of it at once...

Keevan_Colton · Post by **Keevan_Colton** » 2004-05-15 08:27pm

Pretty much everything by Black Isle Studios, that means :-

Fallout
Fallout 2
Baldurs Gate
Baldurs Gate : Tales of the Sword Coast
Baldurs Gate 2 : Shadows of Amn
Baldurs Gate 2 : Throne of Bhaal
Icewind Dale
Icewind Dale : Heart of Winter
Icewind Dale 2
Planescape Torment

All of those are first class CRPG's particularly the Fallout and Fallout 2 post apocalyptic adventures, watch out for the crashed whale and the potted plant

Mayabird · Post by **Mayabird** » 2004-05-15 11:10pm

If you have a funky sense of humor, you might look into getting Earthbound. It was an SNES game and kinda hard to find now, but there are *cough*ROMs*cough* of it if you're interested in eclectic weirdness.

I like eclectic weirdness.

I also second Chrono Trigger and FF6.

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2004-05-16 01:17am

The Kernel wrote:Chrono Trigger and its sequel Chrono Cross. You don't need any other games.

Best to try and think of Chrono Cross as its own game, though. Stand alone, it's a pretty good game, but as a sequel to Chrono Trigger it's like a hentai tentacle demon, with Chrono Trigger in the role of a blond-haired virgin.

Arthur_Tuxedo · Post by **Arthur_Tuxedo** » 2004-05-16 01:38am

Joe wrote:
The Kernel wrote:Chrono Trigger and its sequel Chrono Cross. You don't need any other games.
Best to try and think of Chrono Cross as its own game, though. Stand alone, it's a pretty good game, but as a sequel to Chrono Trigger it's like a hentai tentacle demon, with Chrono Trigger in the role of a blond-haired virgin.

I didn't even like Chrono Cross very much. The characters had no real personality, the story was confusing and didn't have a hook, and the great gameplay and combat was replaced by a seeming clone of Playstation Final Fantasy games.

But Chrono Trigger is the greatest console RPG of all time, hands down.

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2004-05-16 01:45am

I kind of liked the story. It was the misanthropy and environmentalist propaganda that sent me up the wal.

Chrono Trigger was all about saving the planet so that human beings could live happily in the future; Chrono Cross was one big "fuck you" to the human race. I didn't appreciate the hijacking. Not to mention the fact that the developers were obviously more interested in their own shit than in making a sequel to Chrono Trigger.

The Kernel · Post by **The Kernel** » 2004-05-16 01:49am

Joe wrote:I kind of liked the story. It was the misanthropy and environmentalist propaganda that sent me up the wal.

Chrono Trigger was all about saving the planet so that human beings could live happily in the future; Chrono Cross was one big "fuck you" to the human race. I didn't appreciate the hijacking. Not to mention the fact that the developers were obviously more interested in their own shit than in making a sequel to Chrono Trigger.

Chrono Cross was a big fuck you to the human race? I don't see how. Consider:

FATE wasn't evil, even though that was the thought through most of the game. It was there to prevent a repeat of the time crash and anything that might threaten humanity. Remember, it was FATE who protected humanity from the Reptites and it was FATE who tried to repair the rift in the dimensions.

If anything, I think Chrono Cross was about how humanity might be better off being controlled by a machine then a human being. The Frozen Flame gave FATE ultimate power, but it did not use it recklessly. It did not horde that power, but used it quietly and only when absolutely necessary.

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